31 Oct 2005 15:06:39
Robert Henderson
Those "English" blacks and Asians

The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
people in Britain identify themselves has been published.

"Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
minorities living in England. Most white English people described
themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


31 Oct 2005 15:30:30
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
> "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> people. " D Tel 31 10 2005

I wonder if Bliar and the Commission for Racial Extremists will use this as
more ammo for their policy of exterminating the white English.




31 Oct 2005 07:36:47
eloise
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Robert Henderson wrote:
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
> "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

"Most" does not equal "all" :)



31 Oct 2005 15:38:34
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"eloise" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Robert Henderson wrote:
> > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> > --
> > Robert Henderson
> > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
> "Most" does not equal "all" :)

unless it's in regards to BNP of course.




31 Oct 2005 15:40:36
Albert Grennock
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Diversity Isn't A Codeword" <[email protected] > wrote in
message news:[email protected]
> "Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
>
> I wonder if Bliar and the Commission for Racial Extremists will use this
as
> more ammo for their policy of exterminating the white English.

Yes hopefully the ones who can't spell.
>
>




31 Oct 2005 07:53:13
joeh
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Robert Henderson wrote:
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
> "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> people. "

They're just trying to distance themselves from Tim 'loser' Henman.



31 Oct 2005 16:10:30
Jon°
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

You had better make up for lost ground then sunshine.
"Albert Grennock" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]




31 Oct 2005 16:12:16
Jon°
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Words to socialists/communists/liberals mean what they wish them to mean.
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword" <[email protected] > wrote in
message news:_Tq9f.52651




31 Oct 2005 16:29:32
Rifleman
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
Perhaps the fact that they only interviewed 99 people for this survey may
help.




31 Oct 2005 16:33:54
Albert Grennock
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Jon°" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> You had better make up for lost ground then sunshine.
> "Albert Grennock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]


???

>
>




31 Oct 2005 16:36:40
Jon°
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

The quality of your posts is well signified by ???.
"Albert Grennock" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]




31 Oct 2005 08:51:17
Crowley
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Robert Henderson wrote:
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
> "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
authorities ? No and no.

If I moved to France to live would I be a Frenchman ? Of course not.

So why is it that when Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, Jamaicans, etc
come to live here they 'become' English/British ?



31 Oct 2005 17:15:48
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Jon°" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> The quality of your posts is well signified by ???.
> "Albert Grennock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]

yes, he's absolutely clueless.




31 Oct 2005 17:19:38
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"joeh" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Robert Henderson wrote:
> > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> > people. "
>
> They're just trying to distance themselves from Tim 'loser' Henman.

You mean Tim "by far the best British male tennis player in the Open Era,
the world's last true serve/volleyer, top 50 player for a decade and has won
more titles and had significantly better results than our crappy 'working
class sport of' football team" Henman.




31 Oct 2005 17:20:14
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Rifleman" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> Perhaps the fact that they only interviewed 99 people for this survey may
> help.

I'd say the results are fairly accurate.




31 Oct 2005 17:23:10
Paul C
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:06:39 +0000, Robert Henderson
<[email protected] > wrote:

>The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
>people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
>"Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
>the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
>minorities living in England. Most white English people described
>themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
>exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
>themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
>people. " D Tel 31 10 2005


...on the other hand, a far greater proportion of people of Asian
origin living in Scotland see themselves as 'Scottish' rather than
'British'.

One wonders what it is about Englishness which so turns people off
from wanting to be identified with it.


31 Oct 2005 09:26:40
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

True. Even non English whites living in England will refuse to call
themselves English. Have you ever heard of a an Italian, Spanish,
Russian, you name it, calling himself or herself English, even after a
lifetime in England? English is just an ethnic origin.



31 Oct 2005 09:28:03
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

I don't believe they call themselves Scots.



31 Oct 2005 18:55:37
Stephen Glynn
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Albert Grennock wrote:
> "Diversity Isn't A Codeword" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]
>
>>"Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>>
>>>The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
>>>people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>>>
>>>"Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
>>>the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
>>>minorities living in England. Most white English people described
>>>themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
>>>exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
>>>themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
>>>people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
>>
>>I wonder if Bliar and the Commission for Racial Extremists will use this
>
> as
>
>>more ammo for their policy of exterminating the white English.
>
>
> Yes hopefully the ones who can't spell.
>
>>
>
>

And those who misuse the adverb 'hopefully', even when they're not
engaging in pointless spooling flumes.

Steve


31 Oct 2005 11:01:20
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.



31 Oct 2005 19:19:31
John Gilbert
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

On 31 Oct 2005 11:01:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
>to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
>the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
>negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.

All nationals of any country, when talking of their compatriots who
have moved abroad, will refer to them as 'expats'.
We do not need to be branded 'hypocrites' by an immigrant Rumanian
mongrel such as yourself, you stupid woman, so I suggest you keep your
mouth firmly shut on this issue lest you upset a great number of
British people here, people who are, you should remember, your
reluctant hosts. Do I make myself clear?

Regards, (Or Otherwise)
John G







31 Oct 2005 11:21:00
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Expats are nothing but immigrants. End of story.



31 Oct 2005 17:45:19
Buzz
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
> "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that the
> people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> themselves as English first but also British. However, with the exceptions
> of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe themselves as
> British as they strongly associate England with white people. " D Tel 31
> 10 2005
> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

And exactly what does this have to do with cricket, Mein Kampf you racist
biggot?




31 Oct 2005 19:35:13
Paul C
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:19:31 GMT, John Gilbert
<[email protected] > wrote:

>On 31 Oct 2005 11:01:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
>>to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
>>the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
>>negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
>
>All nationals of any country, when talking of their compatriots who
>have moved abroad, will refer to them as 'expats'.
>We do not need to be branded 'hypocrites' by an immigrant Rumanian
>mongrel such as yourself, you stupid woman, so I suggest you keep your
>mouth firmly shut on this issue lest you upset a great number of
>British people here, people who are, you should remember, your
>reluctant hosts. Do I make myself clear?
>
>Regards, (Or Otherwise)
> John G
>
>
PLONK!
>



31 Oct 2005 19:45:40
Churchill
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!

LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!

FUCKING SON OF HITLER!


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>
> "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that the
> people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> themselves as English first but also British. However, with the exceptions
> of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe themselves as
> British as they strongly associate England with white people. " D Tel 31
> 10 2005
> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk




31 Oct 2005 19:47:46
Albert Grennock
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Diversity Isn't A Codeword" <[email protected] > wrote in
message news:[email protected]
> "Jon°" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > The quality of your posts is well signified by ???.
> > "Albert Grennock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
>
> yes, he's absolutely clueless.

I would be trying to make sense of your ramblings.

>
>




31 Oct 2005 19:52:31
Panhandler
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] says...
> On 31 Oct 2005 11:01:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
> >to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
> >the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
> >negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
>
> All nationals of any country, when talking of their compatriots who
> have moved abroad, will refer to them as 'expats'.
> We do not need to be branded 'hypocrites' by an immigrant Rumanian
> mongrel such as yourself, you stupid woman, so I suggest you keep your
> mouth firmly shut on this issue lest you upset a great number of
> British people here, people who are, you should remember, your
> reluctant hosts. Do I make myself clear?
>
> Regards, (Or Otherwise)
> John G

Well said Jack!!


31 Oct 2005 11:54:10
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Crowley wrote:
> Robert Henderson wrote:
> > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> > --
> > Robert Henderson
> > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
> Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
> themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
> authorities ? No and no.

What about their kids born and raised in Spain with Spanish citizenship
speaking Spanish and English. Thats the valid comparison. Most of the
minorities in this country are born and raised here. Of course that
makes them British.

Your expat comment is a good one though. The same segment of English
society that reads the Mail and mutters about "bloody foreigners" moves
to Spain, refuses to learn Spanish and doesn't abandon any of their old
customs. If someone moves to England and does that its an outrage, but
for them to the same is perfectly alright.

> If I moved to France to live would I be a Frenchman ? Of course not.
>
> So why is it that when Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, Jamaicans, etc
> come to live here they 'become' English/British ?

Are they citizens? If my nationality was British what else would I call
myself regardless of where I was born?

Ian



31 Oct 2005 11:55:24
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


[email protected] wrote:
> I don't believe they call themselves Scots.

Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
to prove it.

Ian



31 Oct 2005 13:31:13
[email protected]
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Paul C wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:06:39 +0000, Robert Henderson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> >people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> >"Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> >the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> >minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> >themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> >exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
> >themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> >people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
>
>
> ...on the other hand, a far greater proportion of people of Asian
> origin living in Scotland see themselves as 'Scottish' rather than
> 'British'.
>
> One wonders what it is about Englishness which so turns people off
> from wanting to be identified with it.

And what does that make *you*? If Englishness is so repulsive to
you
I have no doubt that you are not one. I *do* hope that your last
name isn't "Dickie" as in "Paul C. Dickie" - he's decidely not
English, he's a hebe.



31 Oct 2005 13:33:20
[email protected]
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Ian Bailey wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
>
> Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> to prove it.

The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.



31 Oct 2005 23:09:33
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Ian Bailey wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> >
> > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > to prove it.
>
> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.

they might prefer to use the proper title of "Scotch".




31 Oct 2005 23:16:21
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Ian Bailey" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Crowley wrote:
> > Robert Henderson wrote:
> > > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> > >
> > > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> > > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are
ethnic
> > > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> > > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to
describe
> > > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> > > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> > > --
> > > Robert Henderson
> > > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> > > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
> >
> > Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
> > themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
> > authorities ? No and no.
>
> What about their kids born and raised in Spain with Spanish citizenship
> speaking Spanish and English. Thats the valid comparison. Most of the
> minorities in this country are born and raised here. Of course that
> makes them British.
>
> Your expat comment is a good one though. The same segment of English
> society that reads the Mail and mutters about "bloody foreigners" moves
> to Spain, refuses to learn Spanish and doesn't abandon any of their old
> customs. If someone moves to England and does that its an outrage, but
> for them to the same is perfectly alright.

oh dear, the same Guardian reading lefty dickheads make up such a stupid
fantasy scenario as this are pathetic. The fact is expats everywhere learn
the language, adopt the culture to some extent. I've never met an expat in
Spain who was unable to speak at least basic conversational Spanish and I'd
bet you haven't either, the same goes for even the expats I met in Asia
where the language/culture *is* significantly difficult.

> > If I moved to France to live would I be a Frenchman ? Of course not.
> >
> > So why is it that when Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, Jamaicans, etc
> > come to live here they 'become' English/British ?
>
> Are they citizens? If my nationality was British what else would I call
> myself regardless of where I was born?

you'd call yourself whatever stupid PC title you could invent.




01 Nov 2005 02:48:29
Frank F. Matthews
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians



[email protected] wrote:

> True. Even non English whites living in England will refuse to call
> themselves English. Have you ever heard of a an Italian, Spanish,
> Russian, you name it, calling himself or herself English, even after a
> lifetime in England? English is just an ethnic origin.
>


It may well be different depending on the location. When approached
within England I would expect either a response indicating a local
geographic area or one designating background. If approached overseas I
would expect either English or British.




31 Oct 2005 23:42:09
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


[email protected] wrote:
> Ian Bailey wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> >
> > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > to prove it.
>
> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.

You're confusing "Scottish" the ethnicity with "Scottish" the
nationality. Asian scots share the nationality not the ethnicity.

Ian



31 Oct 2005 23:45:09
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Diversity Isn't A Codeword wrote:
> "Ian Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > Crowley wrote:
> > > Robert Henderson wrote:
> > > > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > > > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> > > >
> > > > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> > > > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are
> ethnic
> > > > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > > > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> > > > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to
> describe
> > > > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> > > > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> > > > --
> > > > Robert Henderson
> > > > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> > > > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
> > >
> > > Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
> > > themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
> > > authorities ? No and no.
> >
> > What about their kids born and raised in Spain with Spanish citizenship
> > speaking Spanish and English. Thats the valid comparison. Most of the
> > minorities in this country are born and raised here. Of course that
> > makes them British.
> >
> > Your expat comment is a good one though. The same segment of English
> > society that reads the Mail and mutters about "bloody foreigners" moves
> > to Spain, refuses to learn Spanish and doesn't abandon any of their old
> > customs. If someone moves to England and does that its an outrage, but
> > for them to the same is perfectly alright.
>
> oh dear, the same Guardian reading lefty dickheads make up such a stupid
> fantasy scenario as this are pathetic. The fact is expats everywhere learn
> the language, adopt the culture to some extent. I've never met an expat in
> Spain who was unable to speak at least basic conversational Spanish and I'd
> bet you haven't either, the same goes for even the expats I met in Asia
> where the language/culture *is* significantly difficult.

My Spanish father-in-law does building work for large parts of the
British expat community in around Alicante. If you want to see large
numbers of Brits who can barely say "hello" in Spanish despite having
lived there for 3 years, go there. It amuses me most that the same ones
who say it doesn't matter that they don't speak the language are the
same ones that read the Spanish edition of the Mail

Ian



01 Nov 2005 07:11:52
Paul Hyett
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In uk.sport.cricket on Mon, 31 Oct 2005 at 13:33:20, [email protected]
wrote :
>
>Ian Bailey wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
>>
>> Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
>> to prove it.
>
> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.

Hello, haven't heard from you in quite a while.

Mourning Bob Sims, perhaps...?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


01 Nov 2005 08:56:19
Rifleman
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Diversity Isn't A Codeword" <[email protected] > wrote in
message news:[email protected]
> "Ian Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> Crowley wrote:
>> > Robert Henderson wrote:
>> > > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
>> > > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>> > >
>> > > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
>> > > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are
> ethnic
>> > > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
>> > > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
>> > > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to
> describe
>> > > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
>> > > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
>> > > --
>> > > Robert Henderson
>> > > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
>> > > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>> >
>> > Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
>> > themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
>> > authorities ? No and no.
>>
>> What about their kids born and raised in Spain with Spanish citizenship
>> speaking Spanish and English. Thats the valid comparison. Most of the
>> minorities in this country are born and raised here. Of course that
>> makes them British.
>>
>> Your expat comment is a good one though. The same segment of English
>> society that reads the Mail and mutters about "bloody foreigners" moves
>> to Spain, refuses to learn Spanish and doesn't abandon any of their old
>> customs. If someone moves to England and does that its an outrage, but
>> for them to the same is perfectly alright.
>
> oh dear, the same Guardian reading lefty dickheads make up such a stupid
> fantasy scenario as this are pathetic. The fact is expats everywhere learn
> the language, adopt the culture to some extent. I've never met an expat in
> Spain who was unable to speak at least basic conversational Spanish and
> I'd
> bet you haven't either, the same goes for even the expats I met in Asia
> where the language/culture *is* significantly difficult.
>
>> > If I moved to France to live would I be a Frenchman ? Of course not.
>> >
>> > So why is it that when Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, Jamaicans, etc
>> > come to live here they 'become' English/British ?
>>
>> Are they citizens? If my nationality was British what else would I call
>> myself regardless of where I was born?
>
> you'd call yourself whatever stupid PC title you could invent.
>
>My Nationality has always been English, There is no British nation, ergo no
>British nationality, Britain is simply a political designation for a common
>union between three states and one principality, England, Scotland, Ireland
>( North) and the principality of Wales




01 Nov 2005 01:13:51
Robt P
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Diversity Isn't A Codeword wrote:


I've never met an expat in
> Spain who was unable to speak at least basic conversational Spanish and I'd
> bet you haven't either, the same goes for even the expats I met in Asia
> where the language/culture *is* significantly difficult.

Rubbish.....

Just returned from a long holiday in Thailand and, of the several dozen
British expats that I encountered, around 5% spoke the language.
Only one incomer - my own son - had taken the 'trouble' to become
fluent!

Also, their general indifference to the Thai people, and their culture,
seemed to mirror the 'UK Muslim' attitude applying here....

Cheers
Robt P.



01 Nov 2005 01:55:18
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Dittto for France. Four years ago I went to SW France, a place where a
lot of Britons live. As I was fluent in French, locals told me how
unhappy they were with the British community. Apparently the Brit
living in France refuses to learn the language, to socialise with
his/her French neighbours and integrate in the local community. They
live in their own ghettoes so to speak and have no interest for the
French way of life.



01 Nov 2005 02:15:07
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Ian Bailey wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > >
> > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > > to prove it.
> >
> > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
>
> You're confusing "Scottish" the ethnicity with "Scottish" the
> nationality. Asian scots share the nationality not the ethnicity.

No. They share neither the nationality nor the ethnicity.



01 Nov 2005 21:17:36
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"John Gilbert" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On 31 Oct 2005 11:01:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
> >to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
> >the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
> >negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
>
> All nationals of any country, when talking of their compatriots who
> have moved abroad, will refer to them as 'expats'.
> We do not need to be branded 'hypocrites' by an immigrant Rumanian
> mongrel such as yourself, you stupid woman, so I suggest you keep your
> mouth firmly shut on this issue lest you upset a great number of
> British people here, people who are, you should remember, your
> reluctant hosts. Do I make myself clear?
>
> Regards, (Or Otherwise)
> John G


And YOU are a bigoted and bloody RUDE dickhead...........

Laz



>
>
>
>
>




01 Nov 2005 21:29:17
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Churchill" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
>
> LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!
>
> FUCKING SON OF HITLER!

Trying to get recruits for their KKK lynching parties??

Bring it on dudes!

I'm a candidate because I'm dark skinned.

Bur don't forget to bring along the salvation army to save you from a
bashing!!

LOL

I LOVE racist dickheads!! They are NEARLY as smart as a door knob.....

Laz






>
>
> "Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >
> > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
the
> > people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
> > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
exceptions
> > of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe themselves
as
> > British as they strongly associate England with white people. " D Tel 31
> > 10 2005
> > --
> > Robert Henderson
> > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
>




01 Nov 2005 21:25:21
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Ian Bailey wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> >
> > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > to prove it.
>
> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.

As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??

LOL!!

Laz




01 Nov 2005 12:11:26
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

[email protected] wrote:
> I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
> to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
> the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
> negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
>

ExPat == Ex Patriot == Traitor == Turncoat == Scum.

So please explain to me the upbeat nature of the term ExPat again, seems
like a particularly nasty accusation to me.


01 Nov 2005 12:12:45
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

John Gilbert wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2005 11:01:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
>>to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
>>the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
>>negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
>
>
> All nationals of any country, when talking of their compatriots who
> have moved abroad, will refer to them as 'expats'.
> We do not need to be branded 'hypocrites' by an immigrant Rumanian
> mongrel such as yourself, you stupid woman, so I suggest you keep your
> mouth firmly shut on this issue lest you upset a great number of
> British people here, people who are, you should remember, your
> reluctant hosts. Do I make myself clear?
>
> Regards, (Or Otherwise)
> John G
>
>
>
>
>
Well said John.


01 Nov 2005 12:13:48
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> "John Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>On 31 Oct 2005 11:01:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
>>>to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
>>>the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
>>>negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
>>
>>All nationals of any country, when talking of their compatriots who
>>have moved abroad, will refer to them as 'expats'.
>>We do not need to be branded 'hypocrites' by an immigrant Rumanian
>>mongrel such as yourself, you stupid woman, so I suggest you keep your
>>mouth firmly shut on this issue lest you upset a great number of
>>British people here, people who are, you should remember, your
>>reluctant hosts. Do I make myself clear?
>>
>>Regards, (Or Otherwise)
>> John G
>
>
>
> And YOU are a bigoted and bloody RUDE dickhead...........
>
> Laz
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Is that LAZ or One legged Lezbian Black single parent Muslim?


01 Nov 2005 12:18:01
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> "Churchill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
>>
>>LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!
>>
>>FUCKING SON OF HITLER!
>
>
> Trying to get recruits for their KKK lynching parties??
>
> Bring it on dudes!
>
> I'm a candidate because I'm dark skinned.
>
> Bur don't forget to bring along the salvation army to save you from a
> bashing!!
>
> LOL
>
> I LOVE racist dickheads!! They are NEARLY as smart as a door knob.....
>
> Laz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>"Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>>
>>>The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
>>>people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>>>
>>>"Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
>
> the
>
>>>people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
>>>minorities living in England. Most white English people described
>>>themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
>
> exceptions
>
>>>of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe themselves
>
> as
>
>>>British as they strongly associate England with white people. " D Tel 31
>>>10 2005
>>>--
>>>Robert Henderson
>>>Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
>>>Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>>
>>
>
>


Australian Aborigine?


01 Nov 2005 04:30:22
Jay
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


aelthric wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I have always admired the British hypocrisy in calling the Britons gone
> > to work overseas as 'expats' word with a positive undertone while
> > the ones who come to work in UK are 'immigrants', word with a
> > negative connotation. Expats are nothing but immigrants.
> >
>



> ExPat == Ex Patriot == Traitor == Turncoat == Scum.

You just made that up!
Does it apply to Pakistani/Indian/Polish/Ugandan/algerian etc expats
too?





>
> So please explain to me the upbeat nature of the term ExPat again, seems
> like a particularly nasty accusation to me.



01 Nov 2005 04:45:14
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Rifleman wrote:

>My Nationality has always been English, There is no British nation, ergo no
>British nationality, Britain is simply a political designation for a common
>union between three states and one principality, England, Scotland, Ireland
>( North) and the principality of Wales

If you're including NI, that's the United Kingdom you're thinking of,
not Great Britain.



01 Nov 2005 04:49:05
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

One doesn't, because one knows that it's largely because children in
England are given no real reason to feel pride in their country,
whereas the Scots pretty much define themselves as being victims of
English colonialism and savagery.



01 Nov 2005 04:49:38
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

[email protected] wrote:

> Rifleman wrote:
>
> >My Nationality has always been English, There is no British nation, ergo no
> >British nationality, Britain is simply a political designation for a common
> >union between three states and one principality, England, Scotland, Ireland
> >( North) and the principality of Wales
>
> If you're including NI, that's the United Kingdom you're thinking of,
> not Great Britain.

Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
themselves as 'British'.



01 Nov 2005 13:46:16
Jon°
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Nap! He is just a loud mouthed socialist/communist with a few beers inside
him.
"aelthric" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]




01 Nov 2005 13:28:03
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >,
eloise <[email protected] > writes
>
>"Most" does not equal "all" :)
>
In this case it does, viz:


"In England, white English participants identified themselves as English
first and British second, while ethnic minority participants perceived
themselves as British. None identified as English, which they saw as
meaning exclusively white people."

" Britishness was associated with great historical and political
achievements, but only amongst white participants ( whether from
England, Scotland or Wales), not those from ethnic minority
backgrounds".

In short, blacks and Asians actively reject Englishness and have no
interest or conception of what is encompassed by British history and
tradition.

The full report can be found at:
http://www.cre.gov.uk/downloads/what_is_britishness.pdf

--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


01 Nov 2005 13:56:46
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >,
[email protected] writes
>
>Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
>themselves as 'British'.
>
That's because they have nowhere else to go. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


01 Nov 2005 15:35:00
Frank F. Matthews
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians



Robert Henderson wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] writes
>
>>
>> Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
>> themselves as 'British'.
>>
> That's because they have nowhere else to go. RH

And because they are not very bright.



01 Nov 2005 15:46:21
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >, Frank F.
Matthews <[email protected] > writes
>
>> In message <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] writes
>>
>>>
>>> Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
>>>themselves as 'British'.
>>>
>> That's because they have nowhere else to go. RH
>
>And because they are not very bright.


Mmm...a Texan calling people not very bright. Guffaw. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


01 Nov 2005 08:15:30
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Rifleman wrote:
> "Diversity Isn't A Codeword" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]
> > "Ian Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >>
> >> Crowley wrote:
> >> > Robert Henderson wrote:
> >> > > The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
> >> > > people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
> >> > > the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are
> > ethnic
> >> > > minorities living in England. Most white English people described
> >> > > themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
> >> > > exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to
> > describe
> >> > > themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
> >> > > people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
> >> > > --
> >> > > Robert Henderson
> >> > > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> >> > > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
> >> >
> >> > Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
> >> > themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
> >> > authorities ? No and no.
> >>
> >> What about their kids born and raised in Spain with Spanish citizenship
> >> speaking Spanish and English. Thats the valid comparison. Most of the
> >> minorities in this country are born and raised here. Of course that
> >> makes them British.
> >>
> >> Your expat comment is a good one though. The same segment of English
> >> society that reads the Mail and mutters about "bloody foreigners" moves
> >> to Spain, refuses to learn Spanish and doesn't abandon any of their old
> >> customs. If someone moves to England and does that its an outrage, but
> >> for them to the same is perfectly alright.
> >
> > oh dear, the same Guardian reading lefty dickheads make up such a stupid
> > fantasy scenario as this are pathetic. The fact is expats everywhere learn
> > the language, adopt the culture to some extent. I've never met an expat in
> > Spain who was unable to speak at least basic conversational Spanish and
> > I'd
> > bet you haven't either, the same goes for even the expats I met in Asia
> > where the language/culture *is* significantly difficult.
> >
> >> > If I moved to France to live would I be a Frenchman ? Of course not.
> >> >
> >> > So why is it that when Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, Jamaicans, etc
> >> > come to live here they 'become' English/British ?
> >>
> >> Are they citizens? If my nationality was British what else would I call
> >> myself regardless of where I was born?
> >
> > you'd call yourself whatever stupid PC title you could invent.
> >
> >My Nationality has always been English, There is no British nation, ergo no
> >British nationality, Britain is simply a political designation for a common
> >union between three states and one principality, England, Scotland, Ireland
> >( North) and the principality of Wales

No no no. England as a Kingdon (the precursor to the nation state)
became the Kingdom of England and Wales in 1536. In 1707 following the
merger with Scotland the nations of England-and-Wales and Scotland
merged and became the Kingdom of Great Britain.

British is our nationality, not British. If you're from England then
you're English too but thats just ethnicity not nationality.

Ian



01 Nov 2005 08:16:45
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


[email protected] wrote:
> Ian Bailey wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > > >
> > > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > > > to prove it.
> > >
> > > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> > > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> >
> > You're confusing "Scottish" the ethnicity with "Scottish" the
> > nationality. Asian scots share the nationality not the ethnicity.
>
> No. They share neither the nationality nor the ethnicity.

If their nationality is British then yes, they do. Thats the law
regardless of what you say.

Ian



01 Nov 2005 09:03:12
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Tell me, precisely how many generations of English grandparents would
you need to be considered properly English?



01 Nov 2005 17:05:23
Andy Lee
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Paul C" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:06:39 +0000, Robert Henderson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The results of a poll commissioned by the CRE into the way in which
>>people in Britain identify themselves has been published.
>>
>>"Perhaps the most surprising fact to come out of the research is that
>>the people who most strongly identify themselves as British are ethnic
>>minorities living in England. Most white English people described
>>themselves as English first but also British. However, with the
>>exceptions of black Africans, most ethnic minorities prefer to describe
>>themselves as British as they strongly associate England with white
>>people. " D Tel 31 10 2005
>
>
> ...on the other hand, a far greater proportion of people of Asian
> origin living in Scotland see themselves as 'Scottish' rather than
> 'British'.
>
> One wonders what it is about Englishness which so turns people off
> from wanting to be identified with it.

Having to be included in the same group as fuckwits like pointyhead
Henderson might be a big disincentive.

Why post bollocks like this in the cricket group Robert? You are either too
fucking lazy to remove non relavent groups or it's a deliberate attempt to
get a response, as I said before you are just a attention seeking nobody
living your desperatly lonely little life in your scabby little flat. Now
bugger off and die quietly in a corner somewhere




01 Nov 2005 17:29:55
Tids
Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!





01 Nov 2005 18:03:06
Rifleman
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


>
> No no no. England as a Kingdon (the precursor to the nation state)
> became the Kingdom of England and Wales in 1536. In 1707 following the
> merger with Scotland the nations of England-and-Wales and Scotland
> merged and became the Kingdom of Great Britain.

No It became a political union named the UNITED Kingdoms of Great Britain,
for governance purposes, it is a union for political purposes of 4 states,
England , Ireland, Scotland and Wales, A political designation has no
validity.
>
> British is our nationality, not British. If you're from England then
> you're English too but thats just ethnicity not nationality.
>
> Ian
No my nationality is English, and by political agreement I am an
Englishman,and living in the United Kingdoms, which also happen to be
geographically part of Europe. My Birth Cert says born in Stockton on
tees, England. Britain is simply a political union like the United
states, United Nations, european union etc, I am English.

Ethnically I am of a mongrel mix of Celt, Norse, Dane, Pict and Saxon, A
caucasian in some books, a north european in others.




01 Nov 2005 18:03:17
Rifleman
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"Tids" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!
>
> Yes, lets leave the uneducated to debate the unskilled keep the posts on
> the political NGs, The Cricketers will get confused if you ask them to
> think.
>




01 Nov 2005 18:08:13
Rifleman
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Tell me, precisely how many generations of English grandparents would
> you need to be considered properly English?
>

Cant be defined precisely, but a lot more than 5 or 6 generations of
ancestors coming from a similar cultural background is generally the norm,
IE tHe poles who came here in the 40s still are Poles with Brit passports.




01 Nov 2005 10:25:33
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Rifleman wrote:
> >
> > No no no. England as a Kingdon (the precursor to the nation state)
> > became the Kingdom of England and Wales in 1536. In 1707 following the
> > merger with Scotland the nations of England-and-Wales and Scotland
> > merged and became the Kingdom of Great Britain.
>
> No It became a political union named the UNITED Kingdoms of Great Britain,
> for governance purposes, it is a union for political purposes of 4 states,
> England , Ireland, Scotland and Wales, A political designation has no
> validity.

No no NO! There is ONE state - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland. That is composed of 2 parts - Great Britain and
Northern Ireland. GB is comprised of the countries of England and
Scotland, as well as the Principality of Wales. England is not a state
and has not been a state since 1707. How can you be so ignorant of your
own cuntry? Go check your passport - your nationality is British. This
has referred to citizens of GB since 1707. England is still a country
but is NOT a state. If it was it would have its own government
recognised by other countries. Has it?

> > British is our nationality, not British. If you're from England then
> > you're English too but thats just ethnicity not nationality.
> >
> > Ian
> No my nationality is English, and by political agreement I am an
> Englishman,and living in the United Kingdoms, which also happen to be
> geographically part of Europe. My Birth Cert says born in Stockton on
> tees, England. Britain is simply a political union like the United
> states, United Nations, european union etc, I am English.

Yes, you are English! But thats not your nationality.

Ian



01 Nov 2005 19:20:18
Hognoxious
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Ian Bailey" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
...
> My Spanish father-in-law does building work for large parts of the
> British expat community in around Alicante. If you want to see large
> numbers of Brits who can barely say "hello" in Spanish despite having
> lived there for 3 years, go there. It amuses me most that the same ones
> who say it doesn't matter that they don't speak the language are the
> same ones that read the Spanish edition of the Mail

When they start expecting that the Spanish learn English, translate
government forms into it (at taxpayers' expense), and drive on the left -
and the Spanish government bends over backwards to comply, you might have a
point.

But as usual, you don't.




01 Nov 2005 19:23:23
Hognoxious
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Robt P" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
...
> Also, their general indifference to the Thai people, and their culture,
> seemed to mirror the 'UK Muslim' attitude applying here....

English expats generally don't go round demanding special treatment. Or
blowing things up.

And other countries don't usually have an equivalent of Trever Phillips.




01 Nov 2005 18:40:07
Tids
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Ian Bailey wrote:

> How can you be so ignorant of
> your own cuntry?

Freudian slip?





01 Nov 2005 18:46:58
John Brockbank
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

> Do all those British expats living permanently in Spain identify
> themselves as Spanish ? And are they regarded as such by the Spanish
> authorities ? No and no.
>
> If I moved to France to live would I be a Frenchman ? >Of course not.
>
> So why is it that when Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, Jamaicans, etc
> come to live here they 'become' English/British ?

For exactly the same reason why English people who emigrated to Australia
became Australian.




01 Nov 2005 22:02:18
David North
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"Ian Bailey" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Rifleman wrote:
>> >
>> > No no no. England as a Kingdon (the precursor to the nation state)
>> > became the Kingdom of England and Wales in 1536. In 1707 following the
>> > merger with Scotland the nations of England-and-Wales and Scotland
>> > merged and became the Kingdom of Great Britain.
>>
>> No It became a political union named the UNITED Kingdoms of Great Britain,
>> for governance purposes, it is a union for political purposes of 4 states,
>> England , Ireland, Scotland and Wales, A political designation has no
>> validity.
>
> No no NO! There is ONE state - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
> Northern Ireland. That is composed of 2 parts - Great Britain and
> Northern Ireland. GB is comprised of the countries of England and
> Scotland, as well as the Principality of Wales. England is not a state
> and has not been a state since 1707. How can you be so ignorant of your
> own cuntry? Go check your passport - your nationality is British. This
> has referred to citizens of GB since 1707. England is still a country
> but is NOT a state. If it was it would have its own government
> recognised by other countries. Has it?
>
>> > British is our nationality, not British. If you're from England then
>> > you're English too but thats just ethnicity not nationality.
>> >
>> > Ian
>> No my nationality is English, and by political agreement I am an
>> Englishman,and living in the United Kingdoms, which also happen to be
>> geographically part of Europe. My Birth Cert says born in Stockton on
>> tees, England. Britain is simply a political union like the United
>> states, United Nations, european union etc, I am English.
>
> Yes, you are English! But thats not your nationality.

nation: noun 1 the people living in, belonging to, and together forming, a
single state. 2 a race of people of common descent, history, language or
culture, etc, but not necessarily bound by defined territorial limits of a
state.

http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/chref/chref.py/main?query=nation&title=21st

By definition 2, a nation need not be a state and, therefore, it is perfectly
valid to claim English as a nationality.
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01 Nov 2005 22:11:02
David North
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

"Rifleman" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Tids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!
>>
>> Yes, lets leave the uneducated to debate the unskilled keep the posts on the
>> political NGs, The Cricketers will get confused if you ask them to think.

At least some of us can form a sentence properly.
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01 Nov 2005 22:26:05
David North
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

> "Churchill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
>>
>> LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!
>>
>> FUCKING SON OF HITLER!

says someone whose contribution to uksc has consisted of a torrent of swearing
and absolutely nothing about cricket, and is consequently the only non-spammer
in my killfile.
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01 Nov 2005 14:29:42
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Hognoxious wrote:
> "Ian Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> ...
> > My Spanish father-in-law does building work for large parts of the
> > British expat community in around Alicante. If you want to see large
> > numbers of Brits who can barely say "hello" in Spanish despite having
> > lived there for 3 years, go there. It amuses me most that the same ones
> > who say it doesn't matter that they don't speak the language are the
> > same ones that read the Spanish edition of the Mail
>
> When they start expecting that the Spanish learn English,

They do!

translate
> government forms into it (at taxpayers' expense), and drive on the left -
> and the Spanish government bends over backwards to comply, you might have a
> point.
>
> But as usual, you don't.

See above.

Ian



01 Nov 2005 22:30:01
Rifleman
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"David North" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]

>
> At least some of us can form a sentence properly.
> --
Oh Dear God what a pathetically sad individual, checking spelling and
watching cricket being the highlight of your life, I know you must still
live at home with your mother.




01 Nov 2005 14:31:59
Ian Bailey
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


David North wrote:
> "Ian Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > Rifleman wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No no no. England as a Kingdon (the precursor to the nation state)
> >> > became the Kingdom of England and Wales in 1536. In 1707 following the
> >> > merger with Scotland the nations of England-and-Wales and Scotland
> >> > merged and became the Kingdom of Great Britain.
> >>
> >> No It became a political union named the UNITED Kingdoms of Great Britain,
> >> for governance purposes, it is a union for political purposes of 4 states,
> >> England , Ireland, Scotland and Wales, A political designation has no
> >> validity.
> >
> > No no NO! There is ONE state - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
> > Northern Ireland. That is composed of 2 parts - Great Britain and
> > Northern Ireland. GB is comprised of the countries of England and
> > Scotland, as well as the Principality of Wales. England is not a state
> > and has not been a state since 1707. How can you be so ignorant of your
> > own cuntry? Go check your passport - your nationality is British. This
> > has referred to citizens of GB since 1707. England is still a country
> > but is NOT a state. If it was it would have its own government
> > recognised by other countries. Has it?
> >
> >> > British is our nationality, not British. If you're from England then
> >> > you're English too but thats just ethnicity not nationality.
> >> >
> >> > Ian
> >> No my nationality is English, and by political agreement I am an
> >> Englishman,and living in the United Kingdoms, which also happen to be
> >> geographically part of Europe. My Birth Cert says born in Stockton on
> >> tees, England. Britain is simply a political union like the United
> >> states, United Nations, european union etc, I am English.
> >
> > Yes, you are English! But thats not your nationality.
>
> nation: noun 1 the people living in, belonging to, and together forming, a
> single state. 2 a race of people of common descent, history, language or
> culture, etc, but not necessarily bound by defined territorial limits of a
> state.
>
> http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/chref/chref.py/main?query=nation&title=21st
>
> By definition 2, a nation need not be a state and, therefore, it is perfectly
> valid to claim English as a nationality.

Which would be fine if international law and customs agreed with the
dictionary definition. The lagal nationality for the English as placed
on English passports is British.

Ian.



01 Nov 2005 22:31:30
Rifleman
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"David North" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]


Oh I sooooooo know this mans ambition in life is to be a bell ringer and
perhaps lash out for a wild weekend at a cardigan knitting expo. BTW Chaps
Cricket and sport are an oxymoron.




01 Nov 2005 22:34:29
Rifleman
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"David North" <[email protected] > wrote in

This guys idea of erotica is watching the re runs of the Vicar of Dibley and
Red Dwarf , and one just knows he will be into train spotting :o)




01 Nov 2005 23:14:12
max.it
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:02:18 -0000, "David North"
<[email protected] > wrote:

>2 a race of people of common descent, history, language or
>culture, etc, but not necessarily bound by defined territorial limits of a
>state.

Irish

>a nation need not be a state and, therefore, it is perfectly
>valid to claim English as a nationality.

British/ Irish.....how will I convince everyone else ?

duck:

max.it

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>
>



01 Nov 2005 23:22:18
max.it
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:03:17 +0000 (UTC), "Rifleman"
<[email protected] > wrote:

>
>"Tids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!
>>
>> Yes, lets leave the uneducated to debate the unskilled keep the posts on
>> the political NGs, The Cricketers will get confused if you ask them to
>> think.

Balleaux, what a load of nonsense, perhaps you could express yourself
within your normal 300 word limit, and don't distress yourself now,
just because you have a cricket audience.

I love it when you get a dickhead wafting in like a fart on X post.
Complete fools, that rifleman is really sharp, like Claude Hopper.

max.it


02 Nov 2005 00:07:19
Stephen Glynn
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

David North wrote:
> "Ian Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>Rifleman wrote:
>>
>>>>No no no. England as a Kingdon (the precursor to the nation state)
>>>>became the Kingdom of England and Wales in 1536. In 1707 following the
>>>>merger with Scotland the nations of England-and-Wales and Scotland
>>>>merged and became the Kingdom of Great Britain.
>>>
>>>No It became a political union named the UNITED Kingdoms of Great Britain,
>>>for governance purposes, it is a union for political purposes of 4 states,
>>>England , Ireland, Scotland and Wales, A political designation has no
>>>validity.
>>
>>No no NO! There is ONE state - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
>>Northern Ireland. That is composed of 2 parts - Great Britain and
>>Northern Ireland. GB is comprised of the countries of England and
>>Scotland, as well as the Principality of Wales. England is not a state
>>and has not been a state since 1707. How can you be so ignorant of your
>>own cuntry? Go check your passport - your nationality is British. This
>>has referred to citizens of GB since 1707. England is still a country
>>but is NOT a state. If it was it would have its own government
>>recognised by other countries. Has it?
>>
>>
>>>>British is our nationality, not British. If you're from England then
>>>>you're English too but thats just ethnicity not nationality.
>>>>
>>>>Ian
>>>
>>>No my nationality is English, and by political agreement I am an
>>>Englishman,and living in the United Kingdoms, which also happen to be
>>>geographically part of Europe. My Birth Cert says born in Stockton on
>>>tees, England. Britain is simply a political union like the United
>>>states, United Nations, european union etc, I am English.
>>
>>Yes, you are English! But thats not your nationality.
>
>
> nation: noun 1 the people living in, belonging to, and together forming, a
> single state. 2 a race of people of common descent, history, language or
> culture, etc, but not necessarily bound by defined territorial limits of a
> state.
>
> http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/chref/chref.py/main?query=nation&title=21st
>
> By definition 2, a nation need not be a state and, therefore, it is perfectly
> valid to claim English as a nationality.

I suppose, but by definition 2) my dear chum Sally, born in what was
then Rhodesia and brought up in South Africa, could claim her
'nationality' is English, since her parents emigrated to Southern Africa
from Suffolk. I'd say her *nationality* is South African, since
that's what the Republic of South Africa think she is, and that she's a
white, English-speaking South African as opposed to a Boer.

I certainly wouldn't describe her as 'English' without qualification,
any more than I would describe someone born and brought up in Boston,
Massachusetts, as 'Irish', no matter how much he would like to think he is.

Steve


02 Nov 2005 02:20:16
Frank F. Matthews
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians



Robert Henderson wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>, Frank F.
> Matthews <[email protected]> writes
>
>>
>>> In message <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] writes
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
>>>> themselves as 'British'.
>>>>
>>> That's because they have nowhere else to go. RH
>>
>>
>> And because they are not very bright.
>
>
>
> Mmm...a Texan calling people not very bright. Guffaw. RH




Well one could consider your record instead.




01 Nov 2005 20:38:22
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.sport.cricket on Mon, 31 Oct 2005 at 13:33:20, [email protected]
> wrote :
> >
> >Ian Bailey wrote:
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >> > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> >>
> >> Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> >> to prove it.
> >
> > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> >themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
>
> Hello, haven't heard from you in quite a while.

I posted more than once that I was taking a 3 month holiday.
I left in July and returned 2 weeks ago. I spent a month with the
family n England and the other 2 months touring the U.S. and
Canada. Did you miss my post? Perhaps if you didn't resort to that
idiotic killfiling of those you disagree with you would know
what's going on.
>
> Mourning Bob Sims, perhaps...?

Did he die? I didn't know. If he did I am very sorry, he was a
real Englishman concerned with the problems of his tribe and
nation. I doubt that he ever gang-raped anyone, carjacked anyone,
home invaded anyone, mugged any M.P., judge, or woman on the
streets of his nation. I also doubt that he loaned money to anyone
and demanded 800% interest in return, *that* is best left to the
enemies of 2000 years of Western Civilisation civilisation.



01 Nov 2005 20:43:00
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Larry de Silva wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > >
> > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > > to prove it.
> >
> > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
>
> As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??

There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.

>
> LOL!!

I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
"Chinese".
>
> Laz



01 Nov 2005 20:49:39
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Rifleman wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > Tell me, precisely how many generations of English grandparents would
> > you need to be considered properly English?
> >
>
> Cant be defined precisely, but a lot more than 5 or 6 generations of
> ancestors coming from a similar cultural background is generally the norm,
> IE tHe poles who came here in the 40s still are Poles with Brit passports.

As you know I was in Coventry in September. The place is crawling
with Polish busdrivers. I spoke with a couple of them, that is
those who could speak English. For generations Coventry buses were
driven by Coventrians i.e. Englishmen - what happened!! Is
busdriving one of those jobs that "Englishmen won't do, so we have to
get them from abroad"??



02 Nov 2005 06:55:26
Paul Hyett
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In uk.sport.cricket on Tue, 1 Nov 2005 at 20:38:22, wrote :
>>
>> Hello, haven't heard from you in quite a while.
>
> I posted more than once that I was taking a 3 month holiday.
> I left in July and returned 2 weeks ago. I spent a month with the
> family n England and the other 2 months touring the U.S. and
>Canada. Did you miss my post? Perhaps if you didn't resort to that
> idiotic killfiling of those you disagree with you would know
> what's going on.

If I'd kill-filed you, I couldn't have replied to you.

I only kill-file blatant trolls - certainly not people who merely
disagree with me. There wouldn't be much point being on a political
forum otherwise!
>>
>> Mourning Bob Sims, perhaps...?
>
> Did he die? I didn't know. If he did I am very sorry, he was a
> real Englishman concerned with the problems of his tribe and
> nation.

He died of cancer a couple of months back, unfortunately.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


02 Nov 2005 20:37:31
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Jon°" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Nap! He is just a loud mouthed socialist/communist with a few beers inside
> him.
> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]


Nearly right!! I'm most definitely a socialist and a bloody proud one at hat
but I didn't and now don't have a few beers inside me!! Beats the fuck out
of being a brothel born right winged Tory dickhead where you think that your
shit doesn't stink even when it does!! Where being totally up yourself is a
good lifestyle and you are a mythical legend in your cracked mirror!!!

LOL!!!

Laz






02 Nov 2005 20:40:42
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Larry de Silva wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> > >
> > > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > > >
> > > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
accent
> > > > to prove it.
> > >
> > > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
features,
> > > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> >
> > As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
>
> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.


But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years and
end up representing England..!!

LOL!!

Laz


>
> >
> > LOL!!
>
> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
> "Chinese".
> >
> > Laz
>




02 Nov 2005 10:20:55
Simon Pleasants
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:29:55 -0000, "Tids"
<[email protected] > wrote:

>Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!

Indeed. Robert and his one man crusade is just beginning to get on my
nerves. There's too little cricket and too much Henderson on this
group.


02 Nov 2005 10:58:20
Robert Henderson
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

In message <[email protected] >, Simon Pleasants
<[email protected] > writes
>On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:29:55 -0000, "Tids"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!
>
>Indeed. Robert and his one man crusade is just beginning to get on my
>nerves. There's too little cricket and too much Henderson on this
>group.

The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng.
RH
--
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Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


02 Nov 2005 10:56:12
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >, Frank F.
Matthews <[email protected] > writes
>>[email protected] writes
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
>>>>>themselves as 'British'.
>>>>>
>>>> That's because they have nowhere else to go. RH
>>>
>>>
>>> And because they are not very bright.
>> Mmm...a Texan calling people not very bright. Guffaw. RH
>
>
>
>
>Well one could consider your record instead.
>
A Texan considering something? Guffaw. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


02 Nov 2005 11:33:29
Jon°
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Ho! ho! ho! "Three cheers and a bottle of rum" Larry who thinks he is silver
tongued appears and makes a "cuckung-funt" of himself again. With atrocious
grammar and appalling spelling.

Never mind sunshine, if you fail at the ex-polly you will be attending, you
can always get a job in a sewerage shovelling up other folks
shite..................That is if you can pass the intelligence test that
will be required.

"Larry de Silva" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:CN%9f.172 >




02 Nov 2005 13:22:36
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> "Jon°" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>Nap! He is just a loud mouthed socialist/communist with a few beers inside
>>him.
>>"aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]
>
>
>
> Nearly right!! I'm most definitely a socialist and a bloody proud one at hat
> but I didn't and now don't have a few beers inside me!! Beats the fuck out
> of being a brothel born right winged Tory dickhead where you think that your
> shit doesn't stink even when it does!! Where being totally up yourself is a
> good lifestyle and you are a mythical legend in your cracked mirror!!!
>
> LOL!!!
>
> Laz
>
>
>
>

By nearly right do you mean you are an oppressor of the Australian
Aborigine people?


02 Nov 2005 13:34:40
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>Larry de Silva wrote:
>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>
>>>>Ian Bailey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
>>>>>
>>>>>Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
>
> accent
>
>>>>>to prove it.
>>>>
>>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
>
> features,
>
>>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
>>>>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
>>>
>>>As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
>>
>> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
>> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
>> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
>> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
>> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
>
>
>
> But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years and
> end up representing England..!!
>
> LOL!!
>
> Laz
>
>
>
>>>LOL!!
>>
>> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
>> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
>> "Chinese".
>>
>>>Laz
>>
>
>

Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
applications of ASHES!!!

But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?

The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?

And how many Aboriginal people did his bloodlust kill once he got to
Australia?


02 Nov 2005 13:38:46
Paul
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In message <[email protected]>, Simon Pleasants
> <[email protected]> writes
>>On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:29:55 -0000, "Tids"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Stop it all of you.....this is a fecking cricket forum !!!
>>
>>Indeed. Robert and his one man crusade is just beginning to get on my
>>nerves. There's too little cricket and too much Henderson on this
>>group.
>
> The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng. RH
> --
As has been pointed out to you many times, people don't give a fuck about
the players backgrounds/parents/upbringings, they are interested in their
cricketing ability. Now do us all a favour and kill yourself

thank you




02 Nov 2005 05:53:59
AGOG
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Robert Henderson wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Frank F.
> Matthews <[email protected]> writes
>
>>> [email protected] writes
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed; though Protestants from Northern Ireland often describe
>>>>>> themselves as 'British'.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's because they have nowhere else to go. RH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And because they are not very bright.
>>>
>>> Mmm...a Texan calling people not very bright. Guffaw. RH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well one could consider your record instead.
>>
> A Texan considering something? Guffaw. RH

Texans are generally speaking far brighter than Britons, sir, due to
their not having adopted the currently fashionable neurotic self-hatred
which is so popular in the United Kingdom. "Guffaw"? I would stop
using "the Beano" as a guide to writing style if I were you.







02 Nov 2005 06:00:06
Crowley
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


AGOG wrote:
> Texans are generally speaking far brighter than Britons....

On the contrary Texans are renowned throughout the world for being as
thick as shit. Not only that but they are proud of it too.

Most of them are also so fat that they have difficulty in walking.



02 Nov 2005 06:05:36
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

CRE fails to differentiate ethnicity (English) from
citizenship(British). Some people from CRE need to have their head
checked for commissioning such an idiotic poll.



02 Nov 2005 14:07:38
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >, AGOG <[email protected]> writes
>>>
>>> Well one could consider your record instead.
>>>
>> A Texan considering something? Guffaw. RH
>
>Texans are generally speaking far brighter than Britons, sir, due to
>their not having adopted the currently fashionable neurotic self-hatred
>which is so popular in the United Kingdom.

So popular in Moronica. RH

> "Guffaw"? I would stop using "the Beano" as a guide to writing style
>if I were you.
>

--
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Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
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02 Nov 2005 15:47:20
Frank F. Matthews
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians



Robert Henderson wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, AGOG <[email protected]> writes
>
>>>>
>>>> Well one could consider your record instead.
>>>>
>>> A Texan considering something? Guffaw. RH
>>
>>
>> Texans are generally speaking far brighter than Britons, sir, due to
>> their not having adopted the currently fashionable neurotic
>> self-hatred which is so popular in the United Kingdom.
>
>
> So popular in Moronica. RH

Is that a London suburb?

>
>> "Guffaw"? I would stop using "the Beano" as a guide to writing style
>> if I were you.
>>
>


02 Nov 2005 16:11:46
Simon Pleasants
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:58:20 +0000, Robert Henderson
<[email protected] > wrote:

>The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng.

It is, but it is also clear that your views on the subject are
contrary to those held by just about everyone else. Now I don't
expect you'll be changing your opinion any time soon and nor will I,
or indeed most of the others. It is therefore pointless to continue
dragging this point out time and again.

The horse is dead, please stop flogging it.


02 Nov 2005 11:35:06
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Larry de Silva wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > Larry de Silva wrote:
> > > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]
> > > >
> > > > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
> accent
> > > > > to prove it.
> > > >
> > > > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
> features,
> > > > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > > > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> > >
> > > As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
> >
> > There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> > that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> > unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> > of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> > No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
>
>
> But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years and end up representing England..!!

If he was a white So. African then he most probably *is* English by
blood lines. *you* OTOH call yourself "Australian" so I presume you
are an abo with the dark skin to prove it.
>
> LOL!!

You laugh a lot and usually at nothing, there is a name for people
who laugh at nothing - imbeciles.

"Pom"? Sounds racist to me. Are "Poms" whose who founded Australia
and without them Oz would still be inhabited by you lot?

>
>
> >
> > >
> > > LOL!!
> >
> > I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
> > English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
> > "Chinese".
> > >
> > > Laz
> >



02 Nov 2005 19:59:27
David North
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

"aelthric" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Larry de Silva wrote:

--snip--

> But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending other
> IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
>
> The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your grandfathers
> crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
>
> And how many Aboriginal people did his bloodlust kill once he got to
> Australia?

Remind us where the convicts were transported from, and then try to tally that
with Larry's surname.
--
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02 Nov 2005 20:24:57
David North
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

"Rifleman" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "David North" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>
>> At least some of us can form a sentence properly.
>> --
> Oh Dear God what a pathetically sad individual, checking spelling

Ooh - three replies - I seem to have touched a nerve.

Anyway. there was nothing wrong with your spelling; it's your punctuation that's
appalling. I wouldn't have mentioned it if you hadn't been claiming to be
educated whilst amply demonstrating that you aren't.
--
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02 Nov 2005 13:34:30
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Ian Bailey wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the accent
> > > > > to prove it.
> > > >
> > > > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial features,
> > > > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > > > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> > >
> > > You're confusing "Scottish" the ethnicity with "Scottish" the
> > > nationality. Asian scots share the nationality not the ethnicity.
> >
> > No. They share neither the nationality nor the ethnicity.
>
> If their nationality is British then yes, they do. Thats the law
> regardless of what you say.

No. Their citizenship is British, NOT their nationality! Do try and
understand the root of the word. They share neither the nationality
nor the ethnicity.



03 Nov 2005 00:44:01
Toby Briggs
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

aelthric wrote:
> Larry de Silva wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>
>>> Larry de Silva wrote:
>>>
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]
>>>>
>>>>> Ian Bailey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
>>
>>
>> accent
>>
>>>>>> to prove it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
>>
>>
>> features,
>>
>>>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
>>>>> themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
>>> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
>>> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
>>> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
>>> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few
>> years and
>> end up representing England..!!
>>
>> LOL!!
>>
>> Laz
>>
>>
>>
>>>> LOL!!
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
>>> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
>>> "Chinese".
>>>
>>>> Laz
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
> applications of ASHES!!!
>
> But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
> other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
>
> The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
> grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
>
> And how many Aboriginal people did his bloodlust kill once he got to
> Australia?

Jeez - this guy is really stupid!




--
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S Jones - 18 wickets @ 21.00

A Flintoff - 402 runs @ 40.2; 24 wickets @ 27.29


03 Nov 2005 08:36:38
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

David North wrote:
> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>Larry de Silva wrote:
>
>
> --snip--
>
>
>>But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending other
>>IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
>>
>>The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your grandfathers
>>crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
>>
>>And how many Aboriginal people did his bloodlust kill once he got to
>>Australia?
>
>
> Remind us where the convicts were transported from, and then try to tally that
> with Larry's surname.

Larry's Surname is unknown to us, all that is known is that the
individual you call Larry is calling himself / herself Larry de Silva.



02 Nov 2005 14:46:24
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >,
[email protected] writes
>CRE fails to differentiate ethnicity (English) from
>citizenship(British). Some people from CRE need to have their head
>checked for commissioning such an idiotic poll.
>

On the contrary, the report makes a very clear distinction between
ethnicity and citizenship. It is also very important in the way it
inadvertently tells the hideous truth about multiculturalism. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


03 Nov 2005 20:59:23
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"aelthric" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Larry de Silva wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >
> >>Larry de Silva wrote:
> >>
> >>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]
> >>>
> >>>>Ian Bailey wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>[email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
> >
> > accent
> >
> >>>>>to prove it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
> >
> > features,
> >
> >>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> >>>>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> >>>
> >>>As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
> >>
> >> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> >> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> >> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> >> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> >> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
> >
> >
> >
> > But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years
and
> > end up representing England..!!
> >
> > LOL!!
> >
> > Laz
> >
> >
> >
> >>>LOL!!
> >>
> >> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
> >> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
> >> "Chinese".
> >>
> >>>Laz
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
> applications of ASHES!!!
>
> But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
> other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
>
> The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
> grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?

My Grandfather's only "crime" was to work under the British Colonial rule in
Sri Lanka dude. I would have told the bloody Poms to stick it up their arse
and not to tell us how to live!! If I was my grandfather, I would have
challenged and confronted each and every Pommy bastard who tried to tell ME
how to live in MY own fucking country!!


> And how many Aboriginal people did his bloodlust kill once he got to
> Australia?

None mate. The Poms took care of all that years ago with Captain Crook, I
mean Captain Cook......

Laz





03 Nov 2005 21:12:08
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Larry de Silva wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> > >
> > > Larry de Silva wrote:
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian Bailey wrote:
> > > > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > > I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
> > accent
> > > > > > to prove it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
> > features,
> > > > > food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer
to
> > > > > themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> > > >
> > > > As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
> > >
> > > There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> > > that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> > > unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> > > of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> > > No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
> >
> >
> > But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years
and end up representing England..!!
>
> If he was a white So. African then he most probably *is* English by
> blood lines.



Can you PLEASE try saying that to your hero racist RH?? He calls Peterson
nothing but a white mercenary.

> *you* OTOH call yourself "Australian" so I presume you
> are an abo with the dark skin to prove it.


I hate to let you in on a big DARK secret but there are very many dark
skinned Aussies who are NOT indigenous to Australia!! Have a vomit now
racist dude!! Terrible isn't it? The bloody nerve of these dark skinned
people to have the sheer audacity to inhabit this earth..!! Send out your
KKK lynching parties quick smart!!




> >
> > LOL!!
>
> You laugh a lot and usually at nothing, there is a name for people
> who laugh at nothing - imbeciles.


There are also name of posters like you who have had highly successful
humour bypass operations. Stuck in the mud, well dwelling bigots.
BTW it looks like your brain bypass operation has been a great success too
dude!!!


>
> "Pom"? Sounds racist to me.


No its a term of endearment dear old chap......


>Are "Poms" whose who founded Australia
> and without them Oz would still be inhabited by you lot?

???

Can you write that in English dude??

Laz






03 Nov 2005 09:56:19
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >, Frank F.
Matthews <[email protected] > writes
>>>
>>> Texans are generally speaking far brighter than Britons, sir, due to
>>>their not having adopted the currently fashionable neurotic
>>>self-hatred which is so popular in the United Kingdom.
>> So popular in Moronica. RH
>
>Is that a London suburb?

Texan brains in action again. Chortle. It is the United States of
Moronica. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


03 Nov 2005 09:56:56
Robert Henderson
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

In message <[email protected] >, Simon Pleasants
<[email protected] > writes
>On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:58:20 +0000, Robert Henderson
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng.
>
>It is, but it is also clear that your views on the subject are
>contrary to those held by just about everyone else. Now I don't
>expect you'll be changing your opinion any time soon and nor will I,
>or indeed most of the others. It is therefore pointless to continue
>dragging this point out time and again.
>
>The horse is dead, please stop flogging it.


The truth will continue to be told. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


03 Nov 2005 10:46:50
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>Larry de Silva wrote:
>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>>Larry de Silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ian Bailey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
>>>
>>>accent
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>to prove it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
>>>
>>>features,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
>>>>>>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
>>>>>
>>>>>As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
>>>>
>>>> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
>>>> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
>>>> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
>>>> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
>>>> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years
>
> and
>
>>>end up representing England..!!
>>>
>>>LOL!!
>>>
>>>Laz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>LOL!!
>>>>
>>>> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
>>>> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
>>>> "Chinese".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Laz
>>>>
>>>
>>Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
>>applications of ASHES!!!
>>
>>But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
>>other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
>>
>>The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
>>grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
>
>
> My Grandfather's only "crime" was to work under the British Colonial rule in
> Sri Lanka dude. I would have told the bloody Poms to stick it up their arse
> and not to tell us how to live!! If I was my grandfather, I would have
> challenged and confronted each and every Pommy bastard who tried to tell ME
> how to live in MY own fucking country!!

And in doing that you are different from any other Nationalist HOW?

So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!


03 Nov 2005 10:47:21
Paul
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In message <[email protected]>, Simon Pleasants
> <[email protected]> writes
>>On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:58:20 +0000, Robert Henderson
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng.
>>
>>It is, but it is also clear that your views on the subject are
>>contrary to those held by just about everyone else. Now I don't
>>expect you'll be changing your opinion any time soon and nor will I,
>>or indeed most of the others. It is therefore pointless to continue
>>dragging this point out time and again.
>>
>>The horse is dead, please stop flogging it.
>
>
> The truth will continue to be told. RH
> --
You are a sad boring racist twat -happy now




03 Nov 2005 22:38:13
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"aelthric" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Larry de Silva wrote:
> > "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >
> >>Larry de Silva wrote:
> >>
> >>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Larry de Silva wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:[email protected]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Ian Bailey wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>[email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
> >>>
> >>>accent
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>to prove it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
> >>>
> >>>features,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> >>>>>>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
> >>>>
> >>>> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> >>>> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> >>>> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> >>>> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> >>>> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few
years
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>end up representing England..!!
> >>>
> >>>LOL!!
> >>>
> >>>Laz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>LOL!!
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
> >>>> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
> >>>> "Chinese".
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Laz
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
> >>applications of ASHES!!!
> >>
> >>But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
> >>other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
> >>
> >>The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
> >>grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
> >
> >
> > My Grandfather's only "crime" was to work under the British Colonial
rule in
> > Sri Lanka dude. I would have told the bloody Poms to stick it up their
arse
> > and not to tell us how to live!! If I was my grandfather, I would have
> > challenged and confronted each and every Pommy bastard who tried to tell
ME
> > how to live in MY own fucking country!!
>
> And in doing that you are different from any other Nationalist HOW?


Since when do the immigrants in England want to take over the running of the
entire country and rule the land??


> So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!

No you are putting words in my mouth dude!! Ggrr...

I LOVE Foreign Influences with food, culture, lifestyle, clothes, sports etc
but hey, there IS a HUGE difference between influencing and bloody RULING
over a land!! Britannia ruled the waves remember? The sun always set on a
British colony and all that crap? They were not content to just live in a
new land, they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!! AND steal the
bloody tea, rubber and spices AND our beautiful women!!! THIEVES!!

Laz






03 Nov 2005 12:13:51
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:

> Since when do the immigrants in England want to take over the running of the
> entire country and rule the land??

Since they insist on THEIR OWN LAWS!!

>>So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!
>
>
> No you are putting words in my mouth dude!! Ggrr...

Let me quote you again Larry de Silva Said

"I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO
TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING COUNTRY!!"

Well substitute the word "Pommy" (Which is a racist slur BTW) for
"Pakistani" and isn't that precisely what the BNP are doing?

> I LOVE Foreign Influences with food,

No argument there but I would not sell my own cultural heritage for the
price of a Curry.

> culture,

Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
COUNTRY!!"

> lifestyle,

Clearly you are LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
COUNTRY!!"

> clothes,

CLEARLY YOU ARE LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
COUNTRY!!"

sports etc

Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
COUNTRY!!"

> but hey, there IS a HUGE difference between influencing and bloody RULING
> over a land!!

The difference is Blurred when Immigrants demand THEIR OWN LAWS.

> Britannia ruled the waves remember?

And Britannia was ruled by a select ruling IMMIGRANT few who also ruled
over the oppressed indigenous Britons and STILL DO!

> The sun always set on a British colony and all that crap?

Did you bother looking at what life was like for inhabitants of Britain
during the Empire days let alone the oppressed indigenous Britons?

I hardly think that those who were Ghettoised into slum housing, with
high child mortalities, low life expectancy and NO POWER were
responsible for the British Empire, that dubious honour goes to the
ruling IMMIGRANTS in Britain. The KRAUT Royal Family and the JEW
Disreali who whispered sweet dreams of Empire into the eager ears of the
Kraut Empress!!!

> They were not content to just live in a new land,

Neither are Muslims in Britain.

> they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!!

Precisely what modern day Muslims are trying to do in Britain.

> AND steal the bloody tea, rubber and spices

Steal? Although I do not come from the ruling classes in Britain (I am
after all an Indigenous Britain and my family have been oppressed by
Immigrants since the Roman Invasion) I do believe that much was given in
the way of infrastructure to the commonwealth countries in return for
resources. However the VAST MAJORITY of Britons did not benefit in any
way from what our ruling IMMIGRANT classes had traded.

> AND our beautiful women!!! THIEVES!!

Now that is a laugh, whenever someone tries to misrepresent a
Nationalist they always put EXACTLY those words into their mouths.

So you are apparently against mixed marriages and relationships?

WOW for a socialist you certainly sound like a racist to me, perhaps you
meant to say National Socialist?


03 Nov 2005 12:25:45
Simon Pleasants
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:56:56 +0000, Robert Henderson
<[email protected] > wrote:

>The truth will continue to be told. RH

Your version of it yes - I don't doubt it. Clearly the opinion of
people on this group is that you've had your say, most of us don't
agree, and that you should try to stay more on topic in future.
Unfortunately you pay little attention to our opinions yet somehow
expect us to pay attention to yours.


03 Nov 2005 12:49:59
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

aelthric wrote:
> Larry de Silva wrote:
>
>> "Jon°" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>
>>> Nap! He is just a loud mouthed socialist/communist with a few beers
>>> inside
>>> him.
>>> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nearly right!! I'm most definitely a socialist and a bloody proud one
>> at hat
>> but I didn't and now don't have a few beers inside me!! Beats the fuck
>> out
>> of being a brothel born right winged Tory dickhead where you think
>> that your
>> shit doesn't stink even when it does!! Where being totally up yourself
>> is a
>> good lifestyle and you are a mythical legend in your cracked mirror!!!
>>
>> LOL!!!
>>
>> Laz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> By nearly right do you mean you are an oppressor of the Australian
> Aborigine people?


Ahhhhhh No comment from the imbicile Larry de Silva.

We can only suppose that his / her silence is an affirmation that he /
she does not support the rights of the Indigenous Australian but more
likely supports their oppression at the hands of IMMIGRANTS like him /
herself.



03 Nov 2005 04:57:25
Ian
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

What do the minority of British ethnic minorities who don't describe
themselves as British, describe themselves as?



04 Nov 2005 07:15:00
Ed Morris
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In message <[email protected]>, Simon Pleasants
> <[email protected]> writes
>>On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:58:20 +0000, Robert Henderson
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng.
>>
>>It is, but it is also clear that your views on the subject are
>>contrary to those held by just about everyone else. Now I don't
>>expect you'll be changing your opinion any time soon and nor will I,
>>or indeed most of the others. It is therefore pointless to continue
>>dragging this point out time and again.
>>
>>The horse is dead, please stop flogging it.
>
>
> The truth will continue to be told. RH


Ah, this is obviously some usage of the word truth that I have not
previously encountered.
Ed Morris




04 Nov 2005 10:22:19
Richard Dixon
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

"Ed Morris" <[email protected] > wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Ah, this is obviously some usage of the word truth that I have not
> previously encountered.
> Ed Morris

Truth with a silent "s" at the start...!

Richard


04 Nov 2005 13:10:51
David North
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

"Ed Morris" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > In message <[email protected]>, Simon Pleasants
> > <[email protected]> writes
> >>On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:58:20 +0000, Robert Henderson
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>The composition of the England side is immensely pertinent to this ng.
> >>
> >>It is, but it is also clear that your views on the subject are
> >>contrary to those held by just about everyone else. Now I don't
> >>expect you'll be changing your opinion any time soon and nor will I,
> >>or indeed most of the others. It is therefore pointless to continue
> >>dragging this point out time and again.
> >>
> >>The horse is dead, please stop flogging it.
> >
> >
> > The truth will continue to be told. RH
>
>
> Ah, this is obviously some usage of the word truth that I have not
> previously encountered.

RH didn't say who would be telling it ...
--
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Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk




03 Nov 2005 14:57:44
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >, Ian
<[email protected] > writes
>What do the minority of British ethnic minorities who don't describe
>themselves as British, describe themselves as?
>

Asian, Indian, Africa, Jamaican etc. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


04 Nov 2005 17:09:55
Robert Henderson
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)

In message <[email protected] >, Ed Morris
<[email protected] > writes
>>
>> The truth will continue to be told. RH
>
>
>Ah, this is obviously some usage of the word truth that I have not
>previously encountered.
> Ed Morris

You should get out more. RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


04 Nov 2005 22:20:10
Buzz
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"David North" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>> "Churchill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
>>>
>>> LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!
>>>
>>> FUCKING SON OF HITLER!
>
> says someone whose contribution to uksc has consisted of a torrent of
> swearing and absolutely nothing about cricket, and is consequently the
> only non-spammer in my killfile.
> --
> David North
> Email to this address will be deleted as spam
> Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk
>

Kiss my cock DN, you goat fucking arse wipe!




05 Nov 2005 00:03:59
Tids
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Buzz wrote:
>
> Kiss my cock DN, you goat fucking arse wipe!

Mouth getting too big for it's muzzle?







04 Nov 2005 21:36:36
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Larry de Silva wrote:
> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > Larry de Silva wrote:
> > > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]
> > >
> > >>Larry de Silva wrote:
> > >>
> > >>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >>>news:[email protected]
> > >>>
> > >>>>Ian Bailey wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>[email protected] wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
> > >
> > > accent
> > >
> > >>>>>to prove it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
> > >
> > > features,
> > >
> > >>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > >>>>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> > >>>
> > >>>As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
> > >>
> > >> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> > >> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> > >> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> > >> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> > >> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few years
> and
> > > end up representing England..!!
> > >
> > > LOL!!
> > >
> > > Laz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>>LOL!!
> > >>
> > >> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
> > >> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
> > >> "Chinese".
> > >>
> > >>>Laz
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
> > applications of ASHES!!!
> >
> > But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
> > other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
> >
> > The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
> > grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
>
> My Grandfather's only "crime" was to work under the British Colonial rule in
> Sri Lanka dude. I would have told the bloody Poms to stick it up their arse
> and not to tell us how to live!! If I was my grandfather, I would have
> challenged and confronted each and every Pommy bastard who tried to tell ME
> how to live in MY own fucking country!!

Oz is not *your* country, it was founded by the British. Nothing is
stopping you
from living in Sri Lanka so what the hell are you doing in a nation
where The Queen of
England is The Head of State!!
>
>
> > And how many Aboriginal people did his bloodlust kill once he got to
> > Australia?
>
> None mate. The Poms took care of all that years ago with Captain Crook, I
> mean Captain Cook......

If it wasn't for Captain Cook there would *be* no Australia and the
Abos would still
be digging grubs out of trees for Sunday dinner.



05 Nov 2005 19:01:38
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Buzz" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "David North" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >> "Churchill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]
> >>> FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
> >>>
> >>> LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!
> >>>
> >>> FUCKING SON OF HITLER!
> >
> > says someone whose contribution to uksc has consisted of a torrent of
> > swearing and absolutely nothing about cricket, and is consequently the
> > only non-spammer in my killfile.
> > --
> > David North
> > Email to this address will be deleted as spam
> > Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk
> >
>
> Kiss my cock DN, you goat fucking arse wipe!


A wise man like DN is far superior to any insults which can be put upon him,
and the best reply to unseemly brainless behavior is to ignore imbeciles
like you................

Laz







05 Nov 2005 08:24:12
Ed Morris
Re: Lets stick to cricket (was Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians)


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In message <[email protected]>, Ed Morris
> <[email protected]> writes
>>>
>>> The truth will continue to be told. RH
>>
>>
>>Ah, this is obviously some usage of the word truth that I have not
>>previously encountered.
>> Ed Morris
>
> You should get out more. RH
> --
The words pot and kettle...
Ed Morris




05 Nov 2005 08:25:42
Ed Morris
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Buzz" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "David North" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>> "Churchill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> FUCK OFF MEIN KAMPF YOU RACIST COCK SUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
>>>>
>>>> LEAVE CRICKET OUT OF YOUR PRO-NAZI SHIT!
>>>>
>>>> FUCKING SON OF HITLER!
>>
>> says someone whose contribution to uksc has consisted of a torrent of
>> swearing and absolutely nothing about cricket, and is consequently the
>> only non-spammer in my killfile.
>> --
>> David North
>> Email to this address will be deleted as spam
>> Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk
>>
>
> Kiss my cock DN, you goat fucking arse wipe!
>

The standard of converstaion around here has really gone up in my absence.
Ed Morris




05 Nov 2005 08:59:18
David North
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> If it wasn't for Captain Cook there would *be* no Australia and the
> Abos would still
> be digging grubs out of trees for Sunday dinner.

Don't you think someone else would have discovered it by now?
--
David North
Email to this address will be deleted as spam
Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk




07 Nov 2005 16:36:08
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

aelthric wrote:
> Larry de Silva wrote:
>
>> Since when do the immigrants in England want to take over the running
>> of the
>> entire country and rule the land??
>
>
> Since they insist on THEIR OWN LAWS!!
>
>>> So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!
>>
>>
>>
>> No you are putting words in my mouth dude!! Ggrr...
>
>
> Let me quote you again Larry de Silva Said
>
> "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO
> TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
>
> Well substitute the word "Pommy" (Which is a racist slur BTW) for
> "Pakistani" and isn't that precisely what the BNP are doing?
>
>> I LOVE Foreign Influences with food,
>
>
> No argument there but I would not sell my own cultural heritage for the
> price of a Curry.
>
> > culture,
>
> Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> COUNTRY!!"
>
>> lifestyle,
>
>
> Clearly you are LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> COUNTRY!!"
>
>> clothes,
>
>
> CLEARLY YOU ARE LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> COUNTRY!!"
>
> sports etc
>
> Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> COUNTRY!!"
>
>> but hey, there IS a HUGE difference between influencing and bloody RULING
>> over a land!!
>
>
> The difference is Blurred when Immigrants demand THEIR OWN LAWS.
>
>> Britannia ruled the waves remember?
>
>
> And Britannia was ruled by a select ruling IMMIGRANT few who also ruled
> over the oppressed indigenous Britons and STILL DO!
>
> > The sun always set on a British colony and all that crap?
>
> Did you bother looking at what life was like for inhabitants of Britain
> during the Empire days let alone the oppressed indigenous Britons?
>
> I hardly think that those who were Ghettoised into slum housing, with
> high child mortalities, low life expectancy and NO POWER were
> responsible for the British Empire, that dubious honour goes to the
> ruling IMMIGRANTS in Britain. The KRAUT Royal Family and the JEW
> Disreali who whispered sweet dreams of Empire into the eager ears of the
> Kraut Empress!!!
>
>> They were not content to just live in a new land,
>
>
> Neither are Muslims in Britain.
>
>> they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!!
>
>
> Precisely what modern day Muslims are trying to do in Britain.
>
>> AND steal the bloody tea, rubber and spices
>
>
> Steal? Although I do not come from the ruling classes in Britain (I am
> after all an Indigenous Britain and my family have been oppressed by
> Immigrants since the Roman Invasion) I do believe that much was given in
> the way of infrastructure to the commonwealth countries in return for
> resources. However the VAST MAJORITY of Britons did not benefit in any
> way from what our ruling IMMIGRANT classes had traded.
>
>> AND our beautiful women!!! THIEVES!!
>
>
> Now that is a laugh, whenever someone tries to misrepresent a
> Nationalist they always put EXACTLY those words into their mouths.
>
> So you are apparently against mixed marriages and relationships?
>
> WOW for a socialist you certainly sound like a racist to me, perhaps you
> meant to say National Socialist?

I take it from de Silvas silence that the point has been made.


10 Nov 2005 20:40:49
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"aelthric" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> aelthric wrote:
> > Larry de Silva wrote:
> >
> >> Since when do the immigrants in England want to take over the running
> >> of the
> >> entire country and rule the land??
> >
> >
> > Since they insist on THEIR OWN LAWS!!
> >
> >>> So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No you are putting words in my mouth dude!! Ggrr...
> >
> >
> > Let me quote you again Larry de Silva Said
> >
> > "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO
> > TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
> >
> > Well substitute the word "Pommy" (Which is a racist slur BTW) for
> > "Pakistani" and isn't that precisely what the BNP are doing?
> >
> >> I LOVE Foreign Influences with food,
> >
> >
> > No argument there but I would not sell my own cultural heritage for the
> > price of a Curry.
> >
> > > culture,
> >
> > Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> > EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> > COUNTRY!!"
> >
> >> lifestyle,
> >
> >
> > Clearly you are LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> > EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> > COUNTRY!!"
> >
> >> clothes,
> >
> >
> > CLEARLY YOU ARE LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> > EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> > COUNTRY!!"
> >
> > sports etc
> >
> > Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
> > EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
> > COUNTRY!!"
> >
> >> but hey, there IS a HUGE difference between influencing and bloody
RULING
> >> over a land!!
> >
> >
> > The difference is Blurred when Immigrants demand THEIR OWN LAWS.
> >
> >> Britannia ruled the waves remember?
> >
> >
> > And Britannia was ruled by a select ruling IMMIGRANT few who also ruled
> > over the oppressed indigenous Britons and STILL DO!
> >
> > > The sun always set on a British colony and all that crap?
> >
> > Did you bother looking at what life was like for inhabitants of Britain
> > during the Empire days let alone the oppressed indigenous Britons?
> >
> > I hardly think that those who were Ghettoised into slum housing, with
> > high child mortalities, low life expectancy and NO POWER were
> > responsible for the British Empire, that dubious honour goes to the
> > ruling IMMIGRANTS in Britain. The KRAUT Royal Family and the JEW
> > Disreali who whispered sweet dreams of Empire into the eager ears of the
> > Kraut Empress!!!
> >
> >> They were not content to just live in a new land,
> >
> >
> > Neither are Muslims in Britain.
> >
> >> they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!!
> >
> >
> > Precisely what modern day Muslims are trying to do in Britain.
> >
> >> AND steal the bloody tea, rubber and spices
> >
> >
> > Steal? Although I do not come from the ruling classes in Britain (I am
> > after all an Indigenous Britain and my family have been oppressed by
> > Immigrants since the Roman Invasion) I do believe that much was given in
> > the way of infrastructure to the commonwealth countries in return for
> > resources. However the VAST MAJORITY of Britons did not benefit in any
> > way from what our ruling IMMIGRANT classes had traded.
> >
> >> AND our beautiful women!!! THIEVES!!
> >
> >
> > Now that is a laugh, whenever someone tries to misrepresent a
> > Nationalist they always put EXACTLY those words into their mouths.
> >
> > So you are apparently against mixed marriages and relationships?
> >
> > WOW for a socialist you certainly sound like a racist to me, perhaps you
> > meant to say National Socialist?
>
> I take it from de Silvas silence that the point has been made.


No rather it is the sensible realisation of the utter futility of bashing
one's head against a thick brick wall debating issues with an ignoramus who
racist views set very deep in triple concrete. Not worth the effort for one
person. To each their own.

Laz





10 Nov 2005 03:03:56
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Larry de Silva wrote:
> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > Larry de Silva wrote:
> > > "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]
> > >
> > >>Larry de Silva wrote:
> > >>
> > >>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >>>news:[email protected]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Larry de Silva wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >>>>>news:[email protected]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Ian Bailey wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>[email protected] wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>I don't believe they call themselves Scots.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Go talk to them. They do call themselves Scottish and have the
> > >>>
> > >>>accent
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>to prove it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The Scots are a distinct ethnicity, with their own racial
> > >>>
> > >>>features,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> food and culture. For some daft Paki or black African to refer to
> > >>>>>>themselves as "Scot" is either laughable or tragic.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>As daft as a Pom referring to themselves as an Aussie??
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is no ethnicity known as "Aussie" for the simple reason
> > >>>> that the nation is not named after those who founded it,
> > >>>> unlike Scotland, England, Ireland etc. Scotland means "Land
> > >>>> of the Scots" or, as The Romans referred to them "The Scotti".
> > >>>> No negro and Asian can become a Scot simply by being born there.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>But a South African can become a Pom by being in England for a few
> years
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >>>end up representing England..!!
> > >>>
> > >>>LOL!!
> > >>>
> > >>>Laz
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>LOL!!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I agree, it is laughable, almost as laughable as the child of
> > >>>> English missionaries serving in China would refer to themselves as
> > >>>> "Chinese".
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Laz
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>Ahhhhh those grapes are indeed soured by the swift and liberal
> > >>applications of ASHES!!!
> > >>
> > >>But who could blame an Australian who was not an Aborigine for defending
> > >>other IMMIGRANTS in Other lands?
> > >>
> > >>The biggest question on everybodies lips is Laz What was your
> > >>grandfathers crime to be transported as a common criminal convict?
> > >
> > >
> > > My Grandfather's only "crime" was to work under the British Colonial
> rule in
> > > Sri Lanka dude. I would have told the bloody Poms to stick it up their
> arse
> > > and not to tell us how to live!! If I was my grandfather, I would have
> > > challenged and confronted each and every Pommy bastard who tried to tell
> ME
> > > how to live in MY own fucking country!!
> >
> > And in doing that you are different from any other Nationalist HOW?
>
>
> Since when do the immigrants in England want to take over the running of the
> entire country and rule the land??

Muslims have stated publicly that they want Britain to be an islamic
state. Hindus have also been known to say that they are going to take
over.

> > So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!
>
> No you are putting words in my mouth dude!! Ggrr...
>
> I LOVE Foreign Influences with food, culture, lifestyle, clothes, sports etc
> but hey, there IS a HUGE difference between influencing and bloody RULING
> over a land!!

The black man has the whip hand. Think of all those thousands of
so-called ethnic minority lobbying groups while there are none for the
natives.

> Britannia ruled the waves remember?

That was the navy.

> The sun always set on a
> British colony and all that crap? They were not content to just live in a
> new land, they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!! AND steal the
> bloody tea,

Er no, the British introduced tea to India.



10 Nov 2005 11:47:54
aelthric
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> "aelthric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>aelthric wrote:
>>
>>>Larry de Silva wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Since when do the immigrants in England want to take over the running
>>>>of the
>>>>entire country and rule the land??
>>>
>>>
>>>Since they insist on THEIR OWN LAWS!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>So you support Nationalists RIGHT to reject Foreign Influences!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No you are putting words in my mouth dude!! Ggrr...
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me quote you again Larry de Silva Said
>>>
>>>"I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO
>>>TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
>>>
>>>Well substitute the word "Pommy" (Which is a racist slur BTW) for
>>>"Pakistani" and isn't that precisely what the BNP are doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I LOVE Foreign Influences with food,
>>>
>>>
>>>No argument there but I would not sell my own cultural heritage for the
>>>price of a Curry.
>>>
>>> > culture,
>>>
>>>Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
>>>EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
>>>COUNTRY!!"
>>>
>>>
>>>>lifestyle,
>>>
>>>
>>>Clearly you are LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
>>>EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
>>>COUNTRY!!"
>>>
>>>
>>>>clothes,
>>>
>>>
>>>CLEARLY YOU ARE LYING "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
>>>EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
>>>COUNTRY!!"
>>>
>>> sports etc
>>>
>>>Clearly you are lying "I WOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AND CONFRONTED EACH AND
>>>EVERY POMMY BASTARD WHO TRIED TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE IN MY OWN FUCKING
>>>COUNTRY!!"
>>>
>>>
>>>>but hey, there IS a HUGE difference between influencing and bloody
>
> RULING
>
>>>>over a land!!
>>>
>>>
>>>The difference is Blurred when Immigrants demand THEIR OWN LAWS.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Britannia ruled the waves remember?
>>>
>>>
>>>And Britannia was ruled by a select ruling IMMIGRANT few who also ruled
>>>over the oppressed indigenous Britons and STILL DO!
>>>
>>> > The sun always set on a British colony and all that crap?
>>>
>>>Did you bother looking at what life was like for inhabitants of Britain
>>>during the Empire days let alone the oppressed indigenous Britons?
>>>
>>>I hardly think that those who were Ghettoised into slum housing, with
>>>high child mortalities, low life expectancy and NO POWER were
>>>responsible for the British Empire, that dubious honour goes to the
>>>ruling IMMIGRANTS in Britain. The KRAUT Royal Family and the JEW
>>>Disreali who whispered sweet dreams of Empire into the eager ears of the
>>>Kraut Empress!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>They were not content to just live in a new land,
>>>
>>>
>>>Neither are Muslims in Britain.
>>>
>>>
>>>>they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Precisely what modern day Muslims are trying to do in Britain.
>>>
>>>
>>>>AND steal the bloody tea, rubber and spices
>>>
>>>
>>>Steal? Although I do not come from the ruling classes in Britain (I am
>>>after all an Indigenous Britain and my family have been oppressed by
>>>Immigrants since the Roman Invasion) I do believe that much was given in
>>>the way of infrastructure to the commonwealth countries in return for
>>>resources. However the VAST MAJORITY of Britons did not benefit in any
>>>way from what our ruling IMMIGRANT classes had traded.
>>>
>>>
>>>>AND our beautiful women!!! THIEVES!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Now that is a laugh, whenever someone tries to misrepresent a
>>>Nationalist they always put EXACTLY those words into their mouths.
>>>
>>>So you are apparently against mixed marriages and relationships?
>>>
>>>WOW for a socialist you certainly sound like a racist to me, perhaps you
>>>meant to say National Socialist?
>>
>>I take it from de Silvas silence that the point has been made.
>
>
>
> No rather it is the sensible realisation of the utter futility of bashing
> one's head against a thick brick wall debating issues with an ignoramus who
> racist views set very deep in triple concrete. Not worth the effort for one
> person. To each their own.
>
> Laz
>
>
>

And not one of my points has been answered by you, you are clearly one
of those racists that you seem so keen on labelling others with.


10 Nov 2005 11:44:32
Robert Henderson
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

In message <[email protected] >,
[email protected] writes
>
>> The sun always set on a
>> British colony and all that crap? They were not content to just live in a
>> new land, they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!! AND steal the
>> bloody tea,
>
>Er no, the British introduced tea to India.

And railways, roads, public sanitation, a meaningful system of justice,
secular education, science, an army, a civil service, the banning of
suttee and an end to thugee, industrialisation, vast building
programmes, New Delh, the near unification of the subcontinent, ....
"Yes, but what did the British ever do for us?" RH
--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


12 Nov 2005 01:19:50
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Robert Henderson" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:rpdFGWPgKzcDFwhs[email protected]
> In message <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] writes
> >
> >> The sun always set on a
> >> British colony and all that crap? They were not content to just live in
a
> >> new land, they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!! AND steal
the
> >> bloody tea,
> >
> >Er no, the British introduced tea to India.
>
> And railways, roads, public sanitation, a meaningful system of justice,
> secular education, science, an army, a civil service, the banning of
> suttee and an end to thugee, industrialisation, vast building
> programmes, New Delh, the near unification of the subcontinent, ....
> "Yes, but what did the British ever do for us?" RH


When were the British ever ASKED to do anything for countries like India and
Sri Lankans? Quote me the letters of request??
Utter bullshit RH. In Sri Lanka, the British were NOT welcome guests or
invited to force their so called western culture, extremely questionable
influence or infrastructure on them. They violently and arrogantly invaded,
took over, divided the country and ruled over it, favouring their mates as
high govt appointees over far more educated and cultured locals. SL had many
years of their OWN culture, religion, roads, schools etc well before the
Poms invaded it. All the British did was mischievously and intentionally
cause mayhem among the locals and foster divisions that still exist to this
very day.

Laz





> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk




11 Nov 2005 06:34:18
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


Larry de Silva wrote:
> "Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > In message <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] writes
> > >
> > >> The sun always set on a
> > >> British colony and all that crap? They were not content to just live in
> a
> > >> new land, they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!! AND steal
> the
> > >> bloody tea,
> > >
> > >Er no, the British introduced tea to India.
> >
> > And railways, roads, public sanitation, a meaningful system of justice,
> > secular education, science, an army, a civil service, the banning of
> > suttee and an end to thugee, industrialisation, vast building
> > programmes, New Delh, the near unification of the subcontinent, ....
> > "Yes, but what did the British ever do for us?" RH
>
>
> When were the British ever ASKED to do anything for countries like India and
> Sri Lankans? Quote me the letters of request??
> Utter bullshit RH. In Sri Lanka, the British were NOT welcome guests or
> invited to force their so called western culture, extremely questionable
> influence or infrastructure on them. They violently and arrogantly invaded,
> took over, divided the country and ruled over it, favouring their mates as
> high govt appointees over far more educated and cultured locals. SL had many
> years of their OWN culture, religion, roads, schools etc well before the
> Poms invaded it. All the British did was mischievously and intentionally
> cause mayhem among the locals and foster divisions that still exist to this
> very day.

Rather like the immigrants here then?



12 Nov 2005 01:49:01
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Larry de Silva wrote:
> > "Robert Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> > > In message <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] writes
> > > >
> > > >> The sun always set on a
> > > >> British colony and all that crap? They were not content to just
live in
> > a
> > > >> new land, they HAD to bloody rule over it and "colonise" it!! AND
steal
> > the
> > > >> bloody tea,
> > > >
> > > >Er no, the British introduced tea to India.
> > >
> > > And railways, roads, public sanitation, a meaningful system of
justice,
> > > secular education, science, an army, a civil service, the banning of
> > > suttee and an end to thugee, industrialisation, vast building
> > > programmes, New Delh, the near unification of the subcontinent, ....
> > > "Yes, but what did the British ever do for us?" RH
> >
> >
> > When were the British ever ASKED to do anything for countries like India
and
> > Sri Lankans? Quote me the letters of request??
> > Utter bullshit RH. In Sri Lanka, the British were NOT welcome guests or
> > invited to force their so called western culture, extremely questionable
> > influence or infrastructure on them. They violently and arrogantly
invaded,
> > took over, divided the country and ruled over it, favouring their mates
as
> > high govt appointees over far more educated and cultured locals. SL had
many
> > years of their OWN culture, religion, roads, schools etc well before the
> > Poms invaded it. All the British did was mischievously and intentionally
> > cause mayhem among the locals and foster divisions that still exist to
this
> > very day.
>
> Rather like the immigrants here then?

When your immigrants invade Buckingham Palace and become the rulers,
arrogantly take over the parliament by force and also 10 Downing Street, let
me know dude. Otherwise, it is utter bullshit and unintelligent comparisons.

Laz


>




11 Nov 2005 07:18:06
Fred
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

Larry de Silva wrote:
> When were the British ever ASKED to do anything for countries like India and
> Sri Lankans? Quote me the letters of request??
> Utter bullshit RH. In Sri Lanka, the British were NOT welcome guests or
> invited to force their so called western culture, extremely questionable
> influence or infrastructure on them. They violently and arrogantly invaded,
> took over, divided the country and ruled over it, favouring their mates as
> high govt appointees over far more educated and cultured locals. SL had many
> years of their OWN culture, religion, roads, schools etc well before the
> Poms invaded it. All the British did was mischievously and intentionally
> cause mayhem among the locals and foster divisions that still exist to this
> very day.


Er yeah, sorry about that. We did bring you cricket though...



12 Nov 2005 10:51:54
Larry de Silva
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


"Fred" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Larry de Silva wrote:
> > When were the British ever ASKED to do anything for countries like India
and
> > Sri Lankans? Quote me the letters of request??
> > Utter bullshit RH. In Sri Lanka, the British were NOT welcome guests or
> > invited to force their so called western culture, extremely questionable
> > influence or infrastructure on them. They violently and arrogantly
invaded,
> > took over, divided the country and ruled over it, favouring their mates
as
> > high govt appointees over far more educated and cultured locals. SL had
many
> > years of their OWN culture, religion, roads, schools etc well before the
> > Poms invaded it. All the British did was mischievously and intentionally
> > cause mayhem among the locals and foster divisions that still exist to
this
> > very day.
>
>
> Er yeah, sorry about that. We did bring you cricket though...


True! There must have been at least ONE decent Pom among that lot after
all!!

Laz






11 Nov 2005 21:18:01
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


David North wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > If it wasn't for Captain Cook there would *be* no Australia and the
> > Abos would still
> > be digging grubs out of trees for Sunday dinner.
>
> Don't you think someone else would have discovered it by now?

I doubt it. Others had the opportunity, the British *did* it.
Ditto Canada,
N.Z. USA and most of Africa. Who else civilised trhe world?
> --
> David North
> Email to this address will be deleted as spam
> Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk



12 Nov 2005 06:45:47
David North
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> David North wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >
>> > If it wasn't for Captain Cook there would *be* no Australia and the
>> > Abos would still
>> > be digging grubs out of trees for Sunday dinner.
>>
>> Don't you think someone else would have discovered it by now?
>
> I doubt it.

ROFL

> Others had the opportunity, the British *did* it.

Those goalposts have moved a long way.

> Ditto Canada,
> N.Z. USA and most of Africa. Who else civilised trhe world?

Is the world civilised? There's not much evidence of that in this thread.
--
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Email to this address will be deleted as spam
Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk




13 Nov 2005 04:00:06
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

> If it wasn't for Captain Cook there would *be* no Australia and the
>Abos would still
>be digging grubs out of trees for Sunday dinner.

They vere quite happy digging grubs! :-)



13 Nov 2005 04:11:18
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

>Is the world civilised? There's not much evidence of that in this thread.

The British brought peace, love and happiness where ever they went
don't you know? ;-)



13 Nov 2005 04:18:05
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

>hate to let you in on a big DARK secret but there are very many dark
>skinned Aussies who are NOT indigenous to Australia!! Have a vomit now
>racist dude!! Terrible isn't it? The bloody nerve of these dark skinned
>people to have the sheer audacity to inhabit this earth..!! Send out your
>KKK lynching parties quick smart!!

Boedi's just a fruit cake Brit expat living in the US. Please don't
assume she is characteristic of English people will you!



13 Nov 2005 12:50:56
pencil
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> >Is the world civilised? There's not much evidence of that in this
> >thread.
>
> The British brought peace, love and happiness where ever they went
> don't you know? ;-)
>

if you want to feel guilty about it please do, but don't expect the
rest of us to share your agnst.




13 Nov 2005 04:55:58
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

>if you want to feel guilty about it please do, but don't expect the
>rest of us to share your agnst.

I don't, it is not me beating my chest though!



13 Nov 2005 13:21:44
pencil
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> >if you want to feel guilty about it please do, but don't expect the
>>rest of us to share your agnst.
>
> I don't, it is not me beating my chest though!
>

You don't feel guilty, or you don't want us to share your angst?




13 Nov 2005 06:24:07
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

>You don't feel guilty, or you don't want us to share your angst?

I don't feel guilty or have any angst about my English ancestors (my
Irish ones probably even things out anyway! tahehehe ), conversely I
don't feel proud of them. Indulging in either sets of feelings about
events before my birth would be stupid:-)



13 Nov 2005 06:45:46
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

>what happened!! Is
>busdriving one of those jobs that "Englishmen won't do, so we have to
>get them from abroad"??


Err .... yes Boedi, it is! So too is nursing ... so watch your health
or you might be looked after by a smarter, better looking and kinder
woman who happens to be a Filipino!! :-)



13 Nov 2005 18:17:14
David North
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians

<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>> If it wasn't for Captain Cook there would *be* no Australia and the
>>Abos would still
>>be digging grubs out of trees for Sunday dinner.
>
> They vere quite happy digging grubs! :-)

If no-one else had discovered the place, would they have had Sundays?
--
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13 Nov 2005 18:56:00
pencil
Re: Those "English" blacks and Asians


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> >You don't feel guilty, or you don't want us to share your angst?
>
> I don't feel guilty or have any angst about my English ancestors (my
> Irish ones probably even things out anyway! tahehehe ), conversely I
> don't feel proud of them. Indulging in either sets of feelings about
> events before my birth would be stupid:-)
>

There's no such thing as society?