26 Oct 2007 19:45:17
(PeteCresswell)
East Coast USA/New Jersey: Something Different About The Tides Today?

Sailed a New Jersey inlet (Corson's) today.

Probably the best day I've ever had at the place.

But the tide... Sheesh!

If it usually runs out at 4 mph, today it must've been running at
9, maybe even 10 or 12.

A bar that I usually walk across in 2' of water, I couldn't even
begin to stand up on because the water was running so fast.

Eddys, striations in the surface of the water from current,
flotsam, water "dancing"...

There were moments when I thought I was whitewater kayaking
instead of sailing.

So: Is there some special lunar condition these few days? Or
was it just the right combination of wind direction/strength and
tide?
--
PeteCresswell


26 Oct 2007 22:04:46
Alan Ballow
Re: East Coast USA/New Jersey: Something Different About The Tides

YEah. From the Charleston, SC paper - shouldn't be much different up
there.


It only happens once a year, when tides turn to astronomical heights.
We're experiencing those extra high tides right now, and all this rain
isn't helping!

Forecasters say the chances of these streets flooding are high because
we are experiencing the highest tides of the year right now, called
astronomical tides.

"What's happening basically is the moon rotates around the Earth, just
like the Earth rotates around the sun. And once a year the moon is
actually closest to the earth and that's when we have our highest
astronomical tides," said Paul Yura with the National Weather Service.


The next astronomical tide is predicted to happen around 9 a.m.
Saturday. Forecasters say water levels between high and low tides will
be up to seven feet.


(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Sailed a New Jersey inlet (Corson's) today.
>
> Probably the best day I've ever had at the place.
>
> But the tide... Sheesh!
>
> If it usually runs out at 4 mph, today it must've been running at
> 9, maybe even 10 or 12.
>
> A bar that I usually walk across in 2' of water, I couldn't even
> begin to stand up on because the water was running so fast.
>
> Eddys, striations in the surface of the water from current,
> flotsam, water "dancing"...
>
> There were moments when I thought I was whitewater kayaking
> instead of sailing.
>
> So: Is there some special lunar condition these few days? Or
> was it just the right combination of wind direction/strength and
> tide?


29 Oct 2007 16:13:52
sbdesign
Re: East Coast USA/New Jersey: Something Different About The Tides Today?

Last weeks full moon really pulled the tides to extraordinary levels.
The Golden gate was ebbing at 6+ knots and with the accelerated flow
around the base of the south tower- it was more like 9 or 10 knots of
ebb.
Even being lit on a formula board and 9.9 was no match for the strong
ebb tide.
I did manage a few god runs at the south tower on the moving sidewalk
Some photos from Shawn Davis: http://www.picyourshot.com/keyword/102807/1/214380150#214375541
Steve
USA 4
www.stevebodner.blogspot.com


On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, Alan Ballow <[email protected] > wrote:
> YEah. From the Charleston, SC paper - shouldn't be much different up
> there.
>
> It only happens once a year, when tides turn to astronomical heights.
> We're experiencing those extra high tides right now, and all this rain
> isn't helping!
>
> Forecasters say the chances of these streets flooding are high because
> we are experiencing the highest tides of the year right now, called
> astronomical tides.
>
> "What's happening basically is the moon rotates around the Earth, just
> like the Earth rotates around the sun. And once a year the moon is
> actually closest to the earth and that's when we have our highest
> astronomical tides," said Paul Yura with the National Weather Service.
>
> The next astronomical tide is predicted to happen around 9 a.m.
> Saturday. Forecasters say water levels between high and low tides will
> be up to seven feet.
>
> (PeteCresswell) wrote:
> > Sailed a New Jersey inlet (Corson's) today.
>
> > Probably the best day I've ever had at the place.
>
> > But the tide... Sheesh!
>
> > If it usually runs out at 4 mph, today it must've been running at
> > 9, maybe even 10 or 12.
>
> > A bar that I usually walk across in 2' of water, I couldn't even
> > begin to stand up on because the water was running so fast.
>
> > Eddys, striations in the surface of the water from current,
> > flotsam, water "dancing"...
>
> > There were moments when I thought I was whitewater kayaking
> > instead of sailing.
>
> > So: Is there some special lunar condition these few days? Or
> > was it just the right combination of wind direction/strength and
> > tide?




01 Nov 2007 17:16:31
Alan White
Re: East Coast USA/New Jersey: Something Different About The Tides Today?


"sbdesign" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Last weeks full moon really pulled the tides to extraordinary levels.
> The Golden gate was ebbing at 6+ knots and with the accelerated flow
> around the base of the south tower- it was more like 9 or 10 knots of
> ebb.
> Even being lit on a formula board and 9.9 was no match for the strong
> ebb tide.
> I did manage a few god runs at the south tower on the moving sidewalk
> Some photos from Shawn Davis:
> http://www.picyourshot.com/keyword/102807/1/214380150#214375541
> Steve
> USA 4
> www.stevebodner.blogspot.com
>

Apparently, there's more to astronomical high tides than just a full moon. I
remember reading a nice article by Asimov but can't find it now. The gist of
the article was to debunk the myth of full moons and extra high and low
tidal effects. I did find this article on it :
http://www.navis.gr/meteo/thetides.htm that gives an overview. I bet Glen
can explain it best. Glen?

The only reason I bring it up is because a lot of people believe it is
solely due to full moons.

Alan