28 Aug 2006 11:06:54
AmbrA
TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

Hi i have this thing happening to my tippy 98 custom pro.
Sometimes it just starts acting like a fully automatic marker.press it once
and it "shoots" 6 or seven time at once.
Since it is an out of the store version (meaning no upgrades were done) i
wonder if someone could tell why it happens and how to avoid this problem.
Thanx
regards to everyone
Niho




28 Aug 2006 15:38:28
DeathX
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

I bet the velocity is way high too. Try and turn down the markers velocity
as far as it will go and see if that fixes it. I would bet the spring may
need to be cut a little too.


28 Aug 2006 08:48:22
pukindog
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue


AmbrA wrote:
> Hi i have this thing happening to my tippy 98 custom pro.
> Sometimes it just starts acting like a fully automatic marker.press it once
> and it "shoots" 6 or seven time at once.
> Since it is an out of the store version (meaning no upgrades were done) i
> wonder if someone could tell why it happens and how to avoid this problem.
> Thanx
> regards to everyone
> Niho

Could be any number of things. Sounds like the rear bolt (hammer) is
not resetting properly. This could be because of a bad sear, although
that'e not likely on a newer gun. It could be because of trash or other
debris inside the gun impeding the travel of the rear bolt, or a lack
of lubrication. Since the front and rear bolts are linked together it
could be trash in the front ot the gun, such as shell from a broken
ball, or a torn o-ring on the front bolt. It could also be that your
air tank is low and not blowing the rear bolt back all of the way, or
the rear bolt o-ring is bad, which helps catch the air blowing it back.
The first thing I would try is to strip the gun, clean it, inspect the
o-rings, then put a few drops of oil in it when you reassemble.

Billy Goodman
www.pukindogspaintball.com



28 Aug 2006 09:14:33
mad8
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

tippmann fixes most guns for free or close to it... call their customer
support ;)

AmbrA wrote:
> Hi i have this thing happening to my tippy 98 custom pro.
> Sometimes it just starts acting like a fully automatic marker.press it once
> and it "shoots" 6 or seven time at once.
> Since it is an out of the store version (meaning no upgrades were done) i
> wonder if someone could tell why it happens and how to avoid this problem.
> Thanx
> regards to everyone
> Niho



28 Aug 2006 11:36:49
Big Habeeb
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

Does it happen all the time, or only after use for awhile? It could
also be a result of low tank pressure / not enough pressure going into
the gun to reset the bolt. It's a pretty typical thing to have happen
in markers of this type...
The suggestion earlier in this thread is a good one though, clean the
thing...if the issue persists give tippy a call. While I've never
owned a tippmann I understand that their customer service is tops in
the industry.

Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch)
Coming soon to a town near you!

pukindog wrote:
> AmbrA wrote:
> > Hi i have this thing happening to my tippy 98 custom pro.
> > Sometimes it just starts acting like a fully automatic marker.press it once
> > and it "shoots" 6 or seven time at once.
> > Since it is an out of the store version (meaning no upgrades were done) i
> > wonder if someone could tell why it happens and how to avoid this problem.
> > Thanx
> > regards to everyone
> > Niho
>
> Could be any number of things. Sounds like the rear bolt (hammer) is
> not resetting properly. This could be because of a bad sear, although
> that'e not likely on a newer gun. It could be because of trash or other
> debris inside the gun impeding the travel of the rear bolt, or a lack
> of lubrication. Since the front and rear bolts are linked together it
> could be trash in the front ot the gun, such as shell from a broken
> ball, or a torn o-ring on the front bolt. It could also be that your
> air tank is low and not blowing the rear bolt back all of the way, or
> the rear bolt o-ring is bad, which helps catch the air blowing it back.
> The first thing I would try is to strip the gun, clean it, inspect the
> o-rings, then put a few drops of oil in it when you reassemble.
>
> Billy Goodman
> www.pukindogspaintball.com



28 Aug 2006 17:56:42
Hardtime
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

It could be a faulty valve in the bolt also. Check the O-rings it
does sound like not enough air going in the right place.

On 28 Aug 2006 11:36:49 -0700, "Big Habeeb" <[email protected] >
wrote:

>Does it happen all the time, or only after use for awhile? It could
>also be a result of low tank pressure / not enough pressure going into
>the gun to reset the bolt. It's a pretty typical thing to have happen
>in markers of this type...
>The suggestion earlier in this thread is a good one though, clean the
>thing...if the issue persists give tippy a call. While I've never
>owned a tippmann I understand that their customer service is tops in
>the industry.
>
>Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch)
>Coming soon to a town near you!
>
>pukindog wrote:
>> AmbrA wrote:
>> > Hi i have this thing happening to my tippy 98 custom pro.
>> > Sometimes it just starts acting like a fully automatic marker.press it once
>> > and it "shoots" 6 or seven time at once.
>> > Since it is an out of the store version (meaning no upgrades were done) i
>> > wonder if someone could tell why it happens and how to avoid this problem.
>> > Thanx
>> > regards to everyone
>> > Niho
>>
>> Could be any number of things. Sounds like the rear bolt (hammer) is
>> not resetting properly. This could be because of a bad sear, although
>> that'e not likely on a newer gun. It could be because of trash or other
>> debris inside the gun impeding the travel of the rear bolt, or a lack
>> of lubrication. Since the front and rear bolts are linked together it
>> could be trash in the front ot the gun, such as shell from a broken
>> ball, or a torn o-ring on the front bolt. It could also be that your
>> air tank is low and not blowing the rear bolt back all of the way, or
>> the rear bolt o-ring is bad, which helps catch the air blowing it back.
>> The first thing I would try is to strip the gun, clean it, inspect the
>> o-rings, then put a few drops of oil in it when you reassemble.
>>
>> Billy Goodman
>> www.pukindogspaintball.com


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28 Aug 2006 18:16:58
unforgiven 33
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

having the same prob with a BT-4 right now myself. i've totally cleaned
it out and polished the internals. changed every o-ring. oiled it. did
everything i could think of. it is still doing the same thing.

i've got another one that won't recock after each shot. you have to
actually pull the bolt back.



29 Aug 2006 06:30:54
pukindog
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue


unforgiven 33 wrote:
> having the same prob with a BT-4 right now myself. i've totally cleaned
> it out and polished the internals. changed every o-ring. oiled it. did
> everything i could think of. it is still doing the same thing.
>
> i've got another one that won't recock after each shot. you have to
> actually pull the bolt back.

I had a similar problem on my A-5 once and it turned out to be the
plastic body around the valve was split apart. The plastic body extends
off the back of the valve and the rear bolt and it's o-ring go inside
of it when coming forward to strike the vavle pin, which helps with the
gas seal for blow-back. If it's split, you don't get a good seal. Of
course I am not sure if the BT-4 uses a similar system, but it appears
to be somewhat similar.
I have also had a similar problem on my M-98 when the frame screws were
overtightened. There was too much friction on the rear bolt for it to
easily blow back.

Billy Goodman
www.pukindogspaintball.com



29 Aug 2006 15:37:17
AmbrA
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

Jus read on tippmann s web site it seems that they had a production run wich
had a bad sear spring causing it to act as if the tank was out of air (auto
fire).
It was a factory error.
Jut need to check the serials on the tippys to see if they are from that
production run


"pukindog" <[email protected] > wrote in message
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>
> unforgiven 33 wrote:
> > having the same prob with a BT-4 right now myself. i've totally cleaned
> > it out and polished the internals. changed every o-ring. oiled it. did
> > everything i could think of. it is still doing the same thing.
> >
> > i've got another one that won't recock after each shot. you have to
> > actually pull the bolt back.
>
> I had a similar problem on my A-5 once and it turned out to be the
> plastic body around the valve was split apart. The plastic body extends
> off the back of the valve and the rear bolt and it's o-ring go inside
> of it when coming forward to strike the vavle pin, which helps with the
> gas seal for blow-back. If it's split, you don't get a good seal. Of
> course I am not sure if the BT-4 uses a similar system, but it appears
> to be somewhat similar.
> I have also had a similar problem on my M-98 when the frame screws were
> overtightened. There was too much friction on the rear bolt for it to
> easily blow back.
>
> Billy Goodman
> www.pukindogspaintball.com
>




01 Sep 2006 12:05:38
Hardtime
Re: TIPPY 98 custom pro issue

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:37:17 +0200, "AmbrA" <[email protected] > wrote:

>Jus read on tippmann s web site it seems that they had a production run wich
>had a bad sear spring causing it to act as if the tank was out of air (auto
>fire).
>It was a factory error.
>Jut need to check the serials on the tippys to see if they are from that
>production run
>

With most Tippmanns it is easy to tell if the bolt is getting full
travel or out of air. They even sound different when they are out of
air as the bolt does not do the full travel to the rear of the marker.
You can even go as far as to say that they feel different also. Bad
sear pin will just sound like a fast firing uncontrolled marker. Low
air sounds like the marker having a personal problem. You can
decipher the interpretations yourself.


>"pukindog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>>
>> unforgiven 33 wrote:
>> > having the same prob with a BT-4 right now myself. i've totally cleaned
>> > it out and polished the internals. changed every o-ring. oiled it. did
>> > everything i could think of. it is still doing the same thing.
>> >
>> > i've got another one that won't recock after each shot. you have to
>> > actually pull the bolt back.
>>
>> I had a similar problem on my A-5 once and it turned out to be the
>> plastic body around the valve was split apart. The plastic body extends
>> off the back of the valve and the rear bolt and it's o-ring go inside
>> of it when coming forward to strike the vavle pin, which helps with the
>> gas seal for blow-back. If it's split, you don't get a good seal. Of
>> course I am not sure if the BT-4 uses a similar system, but it appears
>> to be somewhat similar.
>> I have also had a similar problem on my M-98 when the frame screws were
>> overtightened. There was too much friction on the rear bolt for it to
>> easily blow back.
>>
>> Billy Goodman
>> www.pukindogspaintball.com
>>
>


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