28 Jun 2004 19:26:53
marathoner52
a asics shoe question

i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire? a concern of
mine when i was getting info on the shoe is it's weight of being 13 oz. i
find that to be quite brick like. so i would like to hear some feedback as
to whether this shoe might be worth looking into or not. thanks dave




29 Jun 2004 06:11:23
JR
Re: a asics shoe question


"marathoner52" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire? a concern
of
> mine when i was getting info on the shoe is it's weight of being 13 oz. i
> find that to be quite brick like. so i would like to hear some feedback as
> to whether this shoe might be worth looking into or not. thanks dave
>

I asked this question a few months ago and no one responded. I am a Creed
user, and supposedly the Empire is the replacement. It's nice looking,
seems a little more flaxible than the Creed, but i haven't tried it on yet.

The price is a little steep. That's what's stopping me at the moment.




29 Jun 2004 12:45:07
Donovan Rebbechi
Re: a asics shoe question

On 2004-06-28, marathoner52 <[email protected] > wrote:
> i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire? a concern of
> mine when i was getting info on the shoe is it's weight of being 13 oz. i
> find that to be quite brick like. so i would like to hear some feedback as
> to whether this shoe might be worth looking into or not. thanks dave

Weight isn't the only factor that makes the shoe "brick like". Flexibility is
at least as important. The Saucony Trigon is around 13oz but not all that
"brick like", but less flexible shoes the same weight are.

But the empire seems to be a built-up shoe suitable for heavier runners. If
you want something that's mid-light weight, wouldn't you be better off with the
2090 ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/


29 Jun 2004 08:19:50
Fluke Worm
Re: a asics shoe question

Dave,
I'm so happy with my 2090's I wouldn't consider moving up the line.
What were you wearing, and if it was working for you, why the change?
But on to your question. Personally weight has never effected my
running, light or heavy your feet won't know the difference once you
get used to them. One of my tricks was to do LSD runs in heavy
trainers, and use lighter shoes for fast WO's or races. I'm pretty
sure that idea isn't original to me though :?)~

"marathoner52" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire? a concern of
> mine when i was getting info on the shoe is it's weight of being 13 oz. i
> find that to be quite brick like. so i would like to hear some feedback as
> to whether this shoe might be worth looking into or not. thanks dave


29 Jun 2004 09:09:33
Fluke Worm
Re: a asics shoe question

Nice shoe. How much?

"JR" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "marathoner52" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire? a concern
> of
> > mine when i was getting info on the shoe is it's weight of being 13 oz. i
> > find that to be quite brick like. so i would like to hear some feedback as
> > to whether this shoe might be worth looking into or not. thanks dave
> >
>
> I asked this question a few months ago and no one responded. I am a Creed
> user, and supposedly the Empire is the replacement. It's nice looking,
> seems a little more flaxible than the Creed, but i haven't tried it on yet.
>
> The price is a little steep. That's what's stopping me at the moment.


29 Jun 2004 13:54:03
Fluke Worm
Re: a asics shoe question

Donovan Rebbechi <[email protected] > wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> But the empire seems to be a built-up shoe suitable for heavier runners. If
> you want something that's mid-light weight, wouldn't you be better off with the
> 2090 ?

As sad as it makes me, I agree with Donovan, get the 2090, it's a great shoe.


29 Jun 2004 18:17:10
JR
Re: a asics shoe question


> "JR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected] >...
> > "marathoner52" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> > > i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire?
> >
> > I asked this question a few months ago and no one responded. I am a
Creed
> > user, and supposedly the Empire is the replacement. It's nice looking,
> > seems a little more flaxible than the Creed, but i haven't tried it on
yet.
> >
> > The price is a little steep. That's what's stopping me at the moment.

"Fluke Worm" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Nice shoe. How much?

$110 list.




29 Jun 2004 19:43:27
JR
Re: a asics shoe question


"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On 2004-06-28, marathoner52 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire?
>
> But the empire seems to be a built-up shoe suitable for heavier runners.
If
> you want something that's mid-light weight, wouldn't you be better off
with the
> 2090 ?

That brings up a question, Donovan...

What is considered "heavier"? 170? 180+

Like I mentioned earlier, I have the Creed (which I love, but I haven't
tried much else), and it too,
according to the description, says "heavier".

But I'm 5' 10" and I weigh, at the most, 155 on a "bad" day, and 150 on a
"good" day.

MIght something else suit me better? (I certianly wouldn't mind SPENDING
less)




29 Jun 2004 19:55:37
Fluke Worm
Re: a asics shoe question

"JR" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Fluke Worm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > Nice shoe. How much?
>
> $110 list.


Go with the 2090, it's a given, proven, winner. Can be gotten for $65 or $70 bux.


30 Jun 2004 01:57:07
Edward
Re: a asics shoe question

[email protected] (Fluke Worm) wrote in message news:<[email protected] >...
> Dave,
> I'm so happy with my 2090's I wouldn't consider moving up the line.
> What were you wearing, and if it was working for you, why the change?
> But on to your question. Personally weight has never effected my
> running, light or heavy your feet won't know the difference once you
> get used to them. One of my tricks was to do LSD runs in heavy
> trainers, and use lighter shoes for fast WO's or races. I'm pretty
> sure that idea isn't original to me though :?)~

Sure ain't. Emil Zatopek was reputed to do awesome reps wearing army boots.

Edward
--
The reading group's reading group:
http://www.bookgroup.org.uk


30 Jun 2004 12:53:32
Donovan Rebbechi
Re: a asics shoe question

On 2004-06-29, JR <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> On 2004-06-28, marathoner52 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire?
>>
>> But the empire seems to be a built-up shoe suitable for heavier runners.
> If
>> you want something that's mid-light weight, wouldn't you be better off
> with the
>> 2090 ?
>
> That brings up a question, Donovan...
>
> What is considered "heavier"? 170? 180+

Dunno. Depends on height as well. 180 is probably heavier except for fairly
tall people.

> Like I mentioned earlier, I have the Creed (which I love, but I haven't tried
> much else), and it too, according to the description, says "heavier".
>
> But I'm 5' 10" and I weigh, at the most, 155 on a "bad" day, and 150 on a
> "good" day.
>
> MIght something else suit me better? (I certianly wouldn't mind SPENDING
> less)

Yes. Try the 2090

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/


30 Jun 2004 11:28:12
Fluke Worm
Re: a asics shoe question

[email protected] (Edward) wrote in message news:<[email protected] >...
>I'm pretty
> > sure that idea isn't original to me though :?)~
>
> Sure ain't. Emil Zatopek was reputed to do awesome reps wearing army boots.
>
> Edward


I'm the one who taught him that.


30 Jun 2004 14:48:09
Ravenwolf
Re: a asics shoe question

"marathoner52" <[email protected] > wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new asics empire? a
> concern of mine when i was getting info on the shoe is it's weight of
> being 13 oz. i find that to be quite brick like. so i would like to
> hear some feedback as to whether this shoe might be worth looking into
> or not. thanks dave
>
>

I use the 2090. There ride is pretty good.


30 Jun 2004 13:42:44
Bob
Re: a asics shoe question

Hello,

I am a 38 year old newbie to this exciting world of running. I am
trying to find some general information about running and also about
good running shoes. Excuse me if my questions sounds repetetive and
ignorant.

Can somebody recommend a good pair of shoes at a reasonable price(
below $100)?. Is 2090 referred here same as ASICS GT-2090?. But the
price for this shoe at Amazon is 90 bucks. Can I get this shoe cheaper
at some other place? Any recommendations?.

My weight is around 168 lbs. I am currently running on a tread mill
but want to switch over to outdoors in near future as one of my
friends suggested that outdoor running is more effective than running
on a tread mill. Is this correct?.

My primary goal in running is to increase my lung capacity and
secondary goal is to reduce weight. I am planning to run only in the
mornings.

Any suggestions to this newbie are welcome.

TIA,

Bob


[email protected] (Fluke Worm) wrote in message news:<[email protected] >...
> "JR" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Fluke Worm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> > > Nice shoe. How much?
> >
> > $110 list.
>
>
> Go with the 2090, it's a given, proven, winner. Can be gotten for $65 or $70 bux.


30 Jun 2004 22:31:57
Re: a asics shoe question

Cliff Young, of Sydney to Melbourne Ultra Matathon fame, trained in
gumboots arounf the family farm.



On 30 Jun 2004 01:57:07 -0700, [email protected] (Edward) wrote:

>[email protected] (Fluke Worm) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Dave,
>> I'm so happy with my 2090's I wouldn't consider moving up the line.
>> What were you wearing, and if it was working for you, why the change?
>> But on to your question. Personally weight has never effected my
>> running, light or heavy your feet won't know the difference once you
>> get used to them. One of my tricks was to do LSD runs in heavy
>> trainers, and use lighter shoes for fast WO's or races. I'm pretty
>> sure that idea isn't original to me though :?)~
>
>Sure ain't. Emil Zatopek was reputed to do awesome reps wearing army boots.
>
>Edward
>--
>The reading group's reading group:
>http://www.bookgroup.org.uk



01 Jul 2004 00:29:09
Fluke Worm
Re: a asics shoe question

[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected] >...
> Cliff Young, of Sydney to Melbourne Ultra Matathon fame, trained in
> gumboots arounf the family farm.

I taught him that too.