30 Nov 2007 10:08:37
Herbert Cannon
OT - For the Gloom and Doom

Lately that is on topic here.
MRSA, avian bird flu, monster hurricanes, Marburg virus, Hot zones, Global
warming, flesh eating bacteria, mutating bacteria that are resistant to anti
biotic, worthless money, collapsing economies, no gas, corporate takeovers,
nuclear war, fundies under my bed, FBI peeking at me, Bushie brownshirts
everywhere, no medical care......
The other day I was cleaning out some books in my library and I came across
an ad in a book magazine.

The ad says:
" SPECIAL REPORT - WORLD AT WAR - will the next 4 years bring a MAJOR war
or depression to America. Major depression, civil turmoil a dictatorship may
be ahead for America. Far fetched - NOT AT ALL." Etc etc rampant inflation
etc etc. as the ad blurts onward about the coming terrible times.
I thought I must start preparing immediately for the collapse. But wait -

I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.

The date was - - - - 1983.

That was 27 years ago.

The world turns and does not end. Bye.




30 Nov 2007 08:23:00
Renli
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Dec 1, 12:08 am, "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Lately that is on topic here.
> MRSA, avian bird flu, monster hurricanes, Marburg virus, Hot zones, Global
> warming, flesh eating bacteria, mutating bacteria that are resistant to anti
> biotic, worthless money, collapsing economies, no gas, corporate takeovers,
> nuclear war, fundies under my bed, FBI peeking at me, Bushie brownshirts
> everywhere, no medical care......
> The other day I was cleaning out some books in my library and I came across
> an ad in a book magazine.
>
> The ad says:
> " SPECIAL REPORT - WORLD AT WAR - will the next 4 years bring a MAJOR war
> or depression to America. Major depression, civil turmoil a dictatorship may
> be ahead for America. Far fetched - NOT AT ALL." Etc etc rampant inflation
> etc etc. as the ad blurts onward about the coming terrible times.
> I thought I must start preparing immediately for the collapse. But wait -
>
> I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>
> The date was - - - - 1983.
>
> That was 27 years ago.
>
> The world turns and does not end. Bye.

No one wants you dead, Herb. They just want your MONEY.

And for all intents and purposes, taking HALF your money, over a very
long period of time, is good enough. They'd take more but you would
get suspicious, and start asking questions like "Why do they need all
that money?", and that would lead you to discovering that if you
actually count up all the dollars that are being accumulated, that it
is a ridiculous amount that no one could ever possibly need, for any
purpose. Then you start to understand that it is not MONEY which is
being accumulated but resources and wealth, mainly in the form of
assets. This goes in in many subtle ways. For example the lack of
hardwood furniture in department stores. It's all metal and plywood
crap, unless of course they're using particle board. I've even seen
foam veneered to look like pine, which just goes to show you how low
expectations have been set these days. Why? Are there less trees? Not
REALLY. It's that the COST has risen so dramatically that what used to
be easily affordable is now NOT, hence, no one can afford the hardwood
furniture. In this way your money has been taken from you. They do the
same thing by substituting cheaper forms of beef for "beef" and
eventually replacing "beef" with "pork/chicken byproducts" under
"meat" in the CPI. Because beef just becomes too expensive to eat
anymore? No, because you don't have the MONEY (read; wealth) that you
had before.

But no you're not going to die. Unless you consider milkbones re-
labled "animal crackers" a form of death, or something!

So when we say it's the end of the world, what we really mean it's the
end of the world as we know it. Or should I say, as we knew it.
Because it is a long, slow process of change - one which many people
are unable to see. This is how it works, Herb. If people start
realizing it, they just scale it back so it's slower.

Apparently the current administration has seen fit to take 65% of the
money from people in the USA - a greater rate than ever before. It
seems to be working.

I kind of wish I could work for these people. I could really use the
money.

-


30 Nov 2007 08:56:55
Badger North
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Nov 30, 11:08 am, "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected] > wrote:

> I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>
> The date was - - - - 1983.
>
> That was 27 years ago.
>
> The world turns and does not end. Bye.

I was in a used bookstore the other day, and flipped through a book
saying the world would end May 5, 2000.

Ah well.

Badger North
www.youngforest.ca


30 Nov 2007 09:03:01
[email protected]
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Nov 30, 11:08 am, "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Lately that is on topic here.
> MRSA, avian bird flu, monster hurricanes, Marburg virus, Hot zones, Global
> warming, flesh eating bacteria, mutating bacteria that are resistant to anti
> biotic, worthless money, collapsing economies, no gas, corporate takeovers,
> nuclear war, fundies under my bed, FBI peeking at me, Bushie brownshirts
> everywhere, no medical care......
> The other day I was cleaning out some books in my library and I came across
> an ad in a book magazine.
>
> The ad says:
> " SPECIAL REPORT - WORLD AT WAR - will the next 4 years bring a MAJOR war
> or depression to America. Major depression, civil turmoil a dictatorship may
> be ahead for America. Far fetched - NOT AT ALL." Etc etc rampant inflation
> etc etc. as the ad blurts onward about the coming terrible times.
> I thought I must start preparing immediately for the collapse. But wait -
>
> I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>
> The date was - - - - 1983.
>
> That was 27 years ago.
>
> The world turns and does not end. Bye.

Unless it was I who was saying it, it doesn't matter.

Trav


30 Nov 2007 09:05:45
Shuurai
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Nov 30, 11:56 am, Badger North <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Nov 30, 11:08 am, "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>
> > The date was - - - - 1983.
>
> > That was 27 years ago.
>
> > The world turns and does not end. Bye.
>
> I was in a used bookstore the other day, and flipped through a book
> saying the world would end May 5, 2000.

The new date is December 15th, 2012 according to the History channel.


30 Nov 2007 12:22:21
Chas
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

"Herbert Cannon" <[email protected] > wrote
> " SPECIAL REPORT - WORLD AT WAR - will the next 4 years bring a MAJOR war
> or depression to America. Major depression, civil turmoil a dictatorship
> may be ahead for America. Far fetched - NOT AT ALL." Etc etc rampant
> inflation etc etc. as the ad blurts onward about the coming terrible
> times.
> I thought I must start preparing immediately for the collapse. But
> wait -
> I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
> The date was - - - - 1983.

Yup-
and it came true too, didn't it.
At the most charitable, it might be off by a couple of years- depending on
one's perspective.
We've had *terrible* leadership since then- the Presidents, the Congress and
the Judiciary all.
They didn't spend the money *here*; they didn't spend the money *on us*, or
to *our* benefit by any description.
We have the raving looney-libs on one side, hating America, and the thieving
fucking plutocrats, hating America, on the other.

--
Chas
http://www.jacksandsaps.com/




01 Dec 2007 00:26:38
Greendistantstar
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom


"Renli" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...

> I kind of wish I could work for these people. I could really use the
> money.

That's why anything you say about economics should be ignored.
--
GDS

"Let's roll!"




30 Nov 2007 17:23:54
[email protected]
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Nov 30, 7:26 pm, "Greendistantstar"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> "Renli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]m...
>
> > I kind of wish I could work for these people. I could really use the
> > money.
>
> That's why anything you say about economics should be ignored.
> --
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"

half the shit he says he is just repackaging from what I have posted
here.

But the jiggering with inflation statistics is absurd.

In dollar PEG nations, they show inflation rates in the high singles
or even double digits, yet HERE, where the dollar sources from, it's
only 2.5%!

An example of magic, surely.

It's not hard to take the PREVIOUS CPI methodologies and determine
what our rate is now. Using the pre-Raygun stats, it'd be 11%. Using
pre-Clitton numbers, 6.9. Obviously, the bankers and policymakers saw
some inflation coming and adjusted their metrics to ignore it.

Prices are fuckin rising here. Seriously. I pay tight enough
attention to my money like a jew so that I notice. On one card, I
mostly just buy food and my bills are getting noticeably higher. You
can look at costs of lots of things in the grocery store and they are
rising. Nevermind gasoline; that is easy. The prices of everything
are climbing and the Fed says nope, no inflation.

Trav


01 Dec 2007 02:33:33
Greendistantstar
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Nov 30, 7:26 pm, "Greendistantstar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Renli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]m...
>>
>> > I kind of wish I could work for these people. I could really use the
>> > money.
>>
>> That's why anything you say about economics should be ignored.
>> --
>> GDS
>>
>> "Let's roll!"
>
> half the shit he says he is just repackaging from what I have posted
> here.

I was talking more about his boasts about gold hoarding and Chinese property
purchase <snork >.

Now he's impoverishing, begging for sheckels.

This is a person whose financial advice one should take heed of?

--
GDS

"Let's roll!"




30 Nov 2007 19:25:29
[email protected]
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Nov 30, 9:33 pm, "Greendistantstar"
<[email protected] > wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 30, 7:26 pm, "Greendistantstar"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Renli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]m...
>
> >> > I kind of wish I could work for these people. I could really use the
> >> > money.
>
> >> That's why anything you say about economics should be ignored.
> >> --
> >> GDS
>
> >> "Let's roll!"
>
> > half the shit he says he is just repackaging from what I have posted
> > here.
>
> I was talking more about his boasts about gold hoarding and Chinese property
> purchase <snork>.
>
> Now he's impoverishing, begging for sheckels.
>
> This is a person whose financial advice one should take heed of?
>
> --
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You shouldn't listen to anything that crackpot says, except when he's
parroting me.

He wants to be taken seriously so badly that he will occasionally crib
shit from virtually verbatim because he knows then that nobody is
going to be able to take substantive issue with it. Give him credit
for trying, but he could wrap himself in Gisele Bundchen and we'd
still spit on him.

Trav


01 Dec 2007 03:24:38
Greendistantstar
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom


"Shuurai" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Nov 30, 11:56 am, Badger North <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 11:08 am, "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>>
>> > The date was - - - - 1983.
>>
>> > That was 27 years ago.
>>
>> > The world turns and does not end. Bye.
>>
>> I was in a used bookstore the other day, and flipped through a book
>> saying the world would end May 5, 2000.
>
> The new date is December 15th, 2012 according to the History channel.

And wtf is 'the end of the world' anyway?

An extinction-level event, such as a 10km asteroid hitting the earth? Yeah,
that's one possibility. Most of the touted 'end of world' scenarios are quite
survivable by at least a significant proportion of the human race eg pandemic.
China or even the USA collapsing economically is NOT such an event

Asimov wrote an interesting book about this in the 80s called "A Choice of
Catastrophes" and I highly recommend it.
--
GDS

"Let's roll!"




02 Dec 2007 12:55:17
Wayne Dobson
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

"Chas" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote
>> " SPECIAL REPORT - WORLD AT WAR - will the next 4 years bring a MAJOR war
>> or depression to America. Major depression, civil turmoil a dictatorship
>> may be ahead for America. Far fetched - NOT AT ALL." Etc etc rampant
>> inflation etc etc. as the ad blurts onward about the coming terrible
>> times.
>> I thought I must start preparing immediately for the collapse. But
>> wait -
>> I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>> The date was - - - - 1983.
>
> Yup-
> and it came true too, didn't it.
> At the most charitable, it might be off by a couple of years- depending on
> one's perspective.
> We've had *terrible* leadership since then- the Presidents, the Congress
> and the Judiciary all.
> They didn't spend the money *here*; they didn't spend the money *on us*,
> or to *our* benefit by any description.
> We have the raving looney-libs on one side, hating America, and the
> thieving fucking plutocrats, hating America, on the other.

But anyone who complains about either, hates America. Is there anyone who
doesn't hate America?

--
Wayne Dobson
AKA "Dobbie The House Elf"




03 Dec 2007 12:26:30
Fraser Johnston
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom


"Shuurai" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Nov 30, 11:56 am, Badger North <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 11:08 am, "Herbert Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I quickly flipped to the front to see the date on this magazine book.
>>
>> > The date was - - - - 1983.
>>
>> > That was 27 years ago.
>>
>> > The world turns and does not end. Bye.
>>
>> I was in a used bookstore the other day, and flipped through a book
>> saying the world would end May 5, 2000.
>
> The new date is December 15th, 2012 according to the History channel.

I best start planning my end of the world party now.

Fraser





02 Dec 2007 22:01:13
Herbert Cannon
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom


I will drink to that!!!




03 Dec 2007 06:53:46
Herbert Cannon
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom


>
> But anyone who complains about either, hates America. Is there anyone who
> doesn't hate America?
Well I have met some Irish and Indians who are busy hating the British. But
who really who gives a shit? Hating others is a simpleton's way of covering
up their own shortcomings.
It is especially valuable to middle eastern dictatorships to preach hatred;
and they have a tailor made religion to do it with. It really covers up the
failure of those governments well.
You may figure it out one day. But it may not be until the knife is at your
neck. Whoops I forgot all your practice about taking it away from someone
else.




03 Dec 2007 07:01:34
Badger North
Re: OT - For the Gloom and Doom

On Nov 30, 10:24 pm, "Greendistantstar"
> And wtf is 'the end of the world' anyway?

Dunno, but I'm thinking the Australians should be worried - it'll
happen a day earlier for them.

Badger "The Sky is Falling" North
www.youngforest.ca