29 Jan 2008 13:23:20
Phil B
silicon balls

Hi,

I'm looking to get a set of silicon balls and have a few questions.
They cost a lot of money so I want to get the right ones for me.
I want to use them for performing so want a good visual size.
Both toss juggling and bounce juggling.
I want do three ball toss juggling with occasional bounces (like Kris
Kremo), and also numbers bounce juggling (up to seven).
I'm in the uk and have seen the mr babache ones on the butterfingers site.

http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BALLS/OTHERBALLS

I'm thinking of getting these. Anyone tried them? Which size should I get?

Also do different batches of balls vary? Should I buy all seven together
or am I ok buying five now and then another two later when I'm ready to
move onto seven?

I hope you can help,

Cheers,
Phil





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29 Jan 2008 13:57:46
Marty
Re: silicon balls

Phil B wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to get a set of silicon balls and have a few questions.
> They cost a lot of money so I want to get the right ones for me.
> I want to use them for performing so want a good visual size.
> Both toss juggling and bounce juggling.
> I want do three ball toss juggling with occasional bounces (like Kris
> Kremo), and also numbers bounce juggling (up to seven).
> I'm in the uk and have seen the mr babache ones on the butterfingers site.
>
>
http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BALLS/OTHERBALLS
>
> I'm thinking of getting these. Anyone tried them? Which size should I get?
>
> Also do different batches of balls vary? Should I buy all seven together
> or am I ok buying five now and then another two later when I'm ready to
> move onto seven?
>
> I hope you can help,
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>

I have the 69mm babache silicons in white and have used them since 2004.
The have a great bounce and have lasted well, they clean up nicely too but
i have to say i'd go for the orange now 'cos they're SOOO bright.

Personally i think i'd find the 63mm size too small but that's generally
because i don't like smaller balls. I use mine for 7 no probs.

Silicons tend to be super consistent in size and weight so i wouldn't
worry about getting 7 together although 7 would mean you can start to
learn bounce passing and if you get them at a convention you may get a
better deal. I bought 9 for that reason - as with clubs you always need on
more!!!

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29 Jan 2008 20:30:46
jamesfrancis
Re: silicon balls

Marty wrote:
>
> Phil B wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm looking to get a set of silicon balls and have a few questions.
> > They cost a lot of money so I want to get the right ones for me.
> > I want to use them for performing so want a good visual size.
> > Both toss juggling and bounce juggling.
> > I want do three ball toss juggling with occasional bounces (like Kris
> > Kremo), and also numbers bounce juggling (up to seven).
> > I'm in the uk and have seen the mr babache ones on the butterfingers site.
> >
> >
>
http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BALLS/OTHERBALLS
> >
> > I'm thinking of getting these. Anyone tried them? Which size should I get?
> >
> > Also do different batches of balls vary? Should I buy all seven together
> > or am I ok buying five now and then another two later when I'm ready to
> > move onto seven?
> >
> > I hope you can help,
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> I have the 69mm babache silicons in white and have used them since 2004.
> The have a great bounce and have lasted well, they clean up nicely too but
> i have to say i'd go for the orange now 'cos they're SOOO bright.
>
> Personally i think i'd find the 63mm size too small but that's generally
> because i don't like smaller balls. I use mine for 7 no probs.
>
> Silicons tend to be super consistent in size and weight so i wouldn't
> worry about getting 7 together although 7 would mean you can start to
> learn bounce passing and if you get them at a convention you may get a
> better deal. I bought 9 for that reason - as with clubs you always need on
> more!!!
>

I just bought 9 Dube 2.25 inch (57 mm) silicones the other day. I used to
use oddballs 63mm (I think) balls. I'm still getting used to the smaller
size and maybe am a little concerned these are too small. I personally
wouldn't buy any bigger than 65 mm though. I made the downgrade in size as
I mostly play around with 4-7 ball siteswaps and I find the larger balls
too bulky to use for this. You could argue (fairly accurately) that my
throws are not precise enough and that if they were, then using larger
balls shouldnít make much difference, however Iíve had a play around with
other peopleís balls (insert joke here) at conventions, and I still donít
feel comfortable with the larger sizes. If you're mostly going to do 3
ball Kremoesque style Juggling though then I guess larger is better.

Anyway thatís a bit of a digression from your initial question. Silicone
balls are usually very well made and as long as you buy them from a well
known manufacturer like Babache them any balls you buy in x years time
should be almost identical to the original balls (minus the scratches,
marks and inevitable loss of bounciness than the older ones will acquire).
If you can afford them, then buy 7+ as you can have fun passing and 7
balls isn't that hard to start running (it is however very hard to get
solid as I am still finding out).

Just one thing to remember when buying balls in the UK. There arenít many
places that carry a wide range within reasonable shipping prices. I ended
up paying 20 squid shipping from the US and didnít realise I would then
have to pay 40 squid VAT and clearance in the UK. I was a bit miffed by
this but should have known better!

Hope the above helped maybe a little and apologies for rambling on (Iíve
been reading legal disclaimers and opinions all day so feeling quite
wordy).

James


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30 Jan 2008 18:41:42
Phil B
Re: silicon balls

Thank you.


I bought 7 of the smaller ones in white.

Cheers,
Phil
jamesfrancis wrote:
>
> Marty wrote:
> >
> > Phil B wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm looking to get a set of silicon balls and have a few questions.
> > > They cost a lot of money so I want to get the right ones for me.
> > > I want to use them for performing so want a good visual size.
> > > Both toss juggling and bounce juggling.
> > > I want do three ball toss juggling with occasional bounces (like Kris
> > > Kremo), and also numbers bounce juggling (up to seven).
> > > I'm in the uk and have seen the mr babache ones on the butterfingers
site.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BALLS/OTHERBALLS
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of getting these. Anyone tried them? Which size should I
get?
> > >
> > > Also do different batches of balls vary? Should I buy all seven together
> > > or am I ok buying five now and then another two later when I'm ready to
> > > move onto seven?
> > >
> > > I hope you can help,
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I have the 69mm babache silicons in white and have used them since 2004.
> > The have a great bounce and have lasted well, they clean up nicely too but
> > i have to say i'd go for the orange now 'cos they're SOOO bright.
> >
> > Personally i think i'd find the 63mm size too small but that's generally
> > because i don't like smaller balls. I use mine for 7 no probs.
> >
> > Silicons tend to be super consistent in size and weight so i wouldn't
> > worry about getting 7 together although 7 would mean you can start to
> > learn bounce passing and if you get them at a convention you may get a
> > better deal. I bought 9 for that reason - as with clubs you always need on
> > more!!!
> >
>
> I just bought 9 Dube 2.25 inch (57 mm) silicones the other day. I used to
> use oddballs 63mm (I think) balls. I'm still getting used to the smaller
> size and maybe am a little concerned these are too small. I personally
> wouldn't buy any bigger than 65 mm though. I made the downgrade in size as
> I mostly play around with 4-7 ball siteswaps and I find the larger balls
> too bulky to use for this. You could argue (fairly accurately) that my
> throws are not precise enough and that if they were, then using larger
> balls shouldnít make much difference, however Iíve had a play around with
> other peopleís balls (insert joke here) at conventions, and I still donít
> feel comfortable with the larger sizes. If you're mostly going to do 3
> ball Kremoesque style Juggling though then I guess larger is better.
>
> Anyway thatís a bit of a digression from your initial question. Silicone
> balls are usually very well made and as long as you buy them from a well
> known manufacturer like Babache them any balls you buy in x years time
> should be almost identical to the original balls (minus the scratches,
> marks and inevitable loss of bounciness than the older ones will acquire).
> If you can afford them, then buy 7+ as you can have fun passing and 7
> balls isn't that hard to start running (it is however very hard to get
> solid as I am still finding out).
>
> Just one thing to remember when buying balls in the UK. There arenít many
> places that carry a wide range within reasonable shipping prices. I ended
> up paying 20 squid shipping from the US and didnít realise I would then
> have to pay 40 squid VAT and clearance in the UK. I was a bit miffed by
> this but should have known better!
>
> Hope the above helped maybe a little and apologies for rambling on (Iíve
> been reading legal disclaimers and opinions all day so feeling quite
> wordy).
>
> James
>
>



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30 Jan 2008 19:33:29
ultimatewannabe
Re: silicon balls

Phil B wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to get a set of silicon balls and have a few questions.
> They cost a lot of money so I want to get the right ones for me.
> I want to use them for performing so want a good visual size.
> Both toss juggling and bounce juggling.
> I want do three ball toss juggling with occasional bounces (like Kris
> Kremo), and also numbers bounce juggling (up to seven).
> I'm in the uk and have seen the mr babache ones on the butterfingers site.
>
>
http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BALLS/OTHERBALLS
>
> I'm thinking of getting these. Anyone tried them? Which size should I get?
>
> Also do different batches of balls vary? Should I buy all seven together
> or am I ok buying five now and then another two later when I'm ready to
> move onto seven?
>
> I hope you can help,
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>

I know lots of people have said that silicones are consistent but that
hasn't been my experience. I bought 7 in 2005 and tried to get 2 more in
2007 and I couldn't find any silicones that bounced as high as my original
7. It sucked ass. I am still looking for more silicones that bounce as
well as the 6 I have (lost one behind a washing machine in the college
dorm).

On that note, I tried out the new Turbos from Mister Babache and those
things kick ass. They bounce higher than every silicone I've tried and
they feel awesome and have nice bright colors and they're half the price.
So I've recently switched from silicones to turbos and I am quite
satisfied with that. At this point I'd recommend skipping silicones
altogether.

Mike



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30 Jan 2008 21:54:41
MichaelB
Re: silicon balls

If you don't mind paying extra for shipping to order from the US, I've had
very good luck with silicones from Prop Works. Better bounce even than
Dube balls.

http://www.puppetsandprops.com/PropWorks.html



Phil B wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to get a set of silicon balls and have a few questions.
> They cost a lot of money so I want to get the right ones for me.
> I want to use them for performing so want a good visual size.
> Both toss juggling and bounce juggling.
> I want do three ball toss juggling with occasional bounces (like Kris
> Kremo), and also numbers bounce juggling (up to seven).
> I'm in the uk and have seen the mr babache ones on the butterfingers site.
>
>
http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BALLS/OTHERBALLS
>
> I'm thinking of getting these. Anyone tried them? Which size should I get?
>
> Also do different batches of balls vary? Should I buy all seven together
> or am I ok buying five now and then another two later when I'm ready to
> move onto seven?
>
> I hope you can help,
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>



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31 Jan 2008 00:01:55
Andreas Folk
Re: silicon balls

i've just ordered 7 play bouncing balls... with 10€ they're a cheap
alternative. they don't bounce as high as silicons and the hyper balls
(which i also tried) but for me it's enough

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