28 Nov 2004 10:47:17
me
West Indies - May not be in VB Series (ALTERNATIVES ABOUND)

I hear that the West Indies may not send a full strength team to the VB
Series in Australia because players are negotiating for higher payments and
some may not accept the offers. The likelihood is that we will see a second
rate West Indian team.

Here are some things Australian Cricket can do about it. Lets put some
pressure on them.

(1) At present we are allowing the West Indian players to dictate the
timetable for negotiations. If you have control of time in a negotiation
then you win - it's as simple as that. We (Australia) should lock down the
series and the players at least two months out. We are paying for
particular top line players not just a team name. Right now the West Indies
players are just hanging out until there is no time left to organise an
alternative team then they will screw everyone for the highest fees. We and
the West Indian Cricket board would be stupid to allow that to happen.

(2) We should show the West Indies that we are confident we have
alternatives. I understand India is available. Australia, Pakistan and
India seems like a better series anyway so we should just remover the word
WEST from the banners.

(3) Alternative A - Get right out there guys. With an ageing Australian
team what better time then now to have an Australia A team take over from
the West Indies in the VB series. That would fill grounds all over the
country - it did last time! An Australia A option would also end the
control the West Indian players current have on the negotiation schedule -
because Australia A can be organised in a day.

One last point. Kenya are also available for a series. For god sake don't
pick them. We have wasted our great team playing other minnows over the
last few years and I am sure we have already done enough for world cricket
in that regard.

This year give us a series with THREE GOOD COMPETITIVE TEAMS in the VB
series. Crap like last year again and I will have to consider another
summer sport.








28 Nov 2004 20:46:14
PWR Raiders
Re: West Indies - May not be in VB Series (ALTERNATIVES ABOUND)


"me" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> I hear that the West Indies may not send a full strength team to the VB
> Series in Australia because players are negotiating for higher payments
and
> some may not accept the offers. The likelihood is that we will see a
second
> rate West Indian team.

West Indies not guaranteed a place in the VB Series

Wisden Cricinfo staff

November 25, 2004



The cricket authorities in Australia may invite an alternative side to
replace West Indies in the VB Series in January if West Indies do not manage
to resolve the dispute with many player of their full-strength side.

Peter Young, the general manager of public affairs for Cricket Australia,
indicated that an alternative team would be considered for the triangular
one-day series which will be hosted by Australia and also includes Pakistan.
"At the moment we're talking about hypotheticals," he said, "but if they
don't [agree], we will start thinking about alternatives."

Normally, the host and visiting teams agrees to a 'Memorandum of
Understanding' that obliges sides to be full-strength. However, it is not
clear whether or not such a clause exists in any agreements between the
boards in West Indies and Australia.

Ricky Ponting, who will be leading Australia in the second Test against on
New Zealand that starts this Friday, expressed his disappointment at the
protracted negotiations between the West Indies cricket board and the
players association. "Hopefully it will be sorted out and resolved and
hopefully they do send out their full-strength side," he said.

James Sutherland, the chief executive of Cricket Australia said: "Our view
also is that international cricket should be about the best playing the
best. All we can do for now is [to] monitor the progress of those parties.
The issue is a matter for the West Indies board and its players to resolve.

"A week is a long time in cricket and we have seven more before the West
Indies join us for the VB Series on 14 January."

The only available full international teams would be India or Kenya,
although Australia A could also be considered.

Wisden Cricinfo Ltd




28 Nov 2004 20:46:29
PWR Raiders
Re: West Indies - May not be in VB Series (ALTERNATIVES ABOUND)


"me" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> I hear that the West Indies may not send a full strength team to the VB
> Series in Australia because players are negotiating for higher payments
and
> some may not accept the offers. The likelihood is that we will see a
second
> rate West Indian team.

28 November, 2004
Mediation talks bring peace hope
Mediation talks have brought a resolution to the dispute between the West
Indies Cricket Board and several of its leading players a step closer.

Skipper Brian Lara and several of his teammates had refused to take part in
a three-week training camp ahead of the triangular VB Series that will be
contested in Australia early next year because they have personal contracts
with Cable and Wireless, a competitor of the WICB's new major sponsor
Digicel.

But with Grenada Prime Minister Dr Keith Mitchell presiding over a lengthy
meeting in Grenada on Friday between the WICB and the West Indies Players
Association, both sides are hopeful that a solution will be found, with the
players agreeing to participate in the training camp starting next week.

"I feel heartened that after this long and difficult process we have an
understanding on the way forward," Dr Mitchell told Windiescricket.com. "It
appears now that the tour to Australia may not be jeopardised by the
grievance."

Lara and the other players have refused to sign tour contracts because of
their deals with Cable and Wireless, with the WICB barring them from
endorsing Digicel competitors without board consent.

Relations between the WICB and the players association broke down on
November 5 when the board named 25 players to begin training for the series
in Australia. In naming the players, the WICB listed some conditions which
prohibited players entering into commercial deals without the board's
consent.

Australia has suggested it would seek an alternative to the West Indies for
the series if the dispute between the board and the players was not
resolved.

Cricket Australia general manager of public affairs Peter Young indicated
that an alternative team would be considered for the series in Australia.

"At the moment we're talking about hypotheticals," Young told the Evening
Standard. "But if they don't (agree), we will start thinking about
alternatives."




29 Nov 2004 13:44:00
me
Re: West Indies - May not be in VB Series (ALTERNATIVES ABOUND)


"PWR Raiders" <gdsyy dsygdg > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> I hear that the West Indies may not send a full strength team to the VB
>> Series in Australia because players are negotiating for higher payments
> and
>> some may not accept the offers. The likelihood is that we will see a
> second
>> rate West Indian team.
>
> 28 November, 2004
> Mediation talks bring peace hope
> Mediation talks have brought a resolution to the dispute between the West
> Indies Cricket Board and several of its leading players a step closer.
>
> Skipper Brian Lara and several of his teammates had refused to take part
> in
> a three-week training camp ahead of the triangular VB Series that will be
> contested in Australia early next year because they have personal
> contracts
> with Cable and Wireless, a competitor of the WICB's new major sponsor
> Digicel.
>
> But with Grenada Prime Minister Dr Keith Mitchell presiding over a lengthy
> meeting in Grenada on Friday between the WICB and the West Indies Players
> Association, both sides are hopeful that a solution will be found, with
> the
> players agreeing to participate in the training camp starting next week.
>
> "I feel heartened that after this long and difficult process we have an
> understanding on the way forward," Dr Mitchell told Windiescricket.com.
> "It
> appears now that the tour to Australia may not be jeopardised by the
> grievance."
>
> Lara and the other players have refused to sign tour contracts because of
> their deals with Cable and Wireless, with the WICB barring them from
> endorsing Digicel competitors without board consent.
>
> Relations between the WICB and the players association broke down on
> November 5 when the board named 25 players to begin training for the
> series
> in Australia. In naming the players, the WICB listed some conditions which
> prohibited players entering into commercial deals without the board's
> consent.
>
> Australia has suggested it would seek an alternative to the West Indies
> for
> the series if the dispute between the board and the players was not
> resolved.
>
> Cricket Australia general manager of public affairs Peter Young indicated
> that an alternative team would be considered for the series in Australia.
>
> "At the moment we're talking about hypotheticals," Young told the Evening
> Standard. "But if they don't (agree), we will start thinking about
> alternatives."
>
>
My point is that they (WI) always carry on like this to screw cricket
administrators when they know full well they have time to negotiate but we
don't have time to get a replacement team.

We should stand up to this stuff by showing them that we are fair dinkum.
What a great opportunity to get an Australia A series. I'd rather that than
a bunch of West Indies who didn't want to play (and now don't even want to
train).