23 Feb 2005 11:34:12
Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

Story with all pics here:
http://www.hisurfadvisory.com/sesh/new5/sesh584.htm


Date: February 18, 2005
Time: 0800-1030; 1130-1230
Spot(s): Shot at Pipeline; bodyboarded OTW
Conditions: Overcast, slight onshore
Swell: northwest
Surf: 3-5' Haw'n

Words: Had the day off so I went to the North Shore to check out the
Monster Energy Pipeline Pro. Hoped to jump in and bodyboard before the
contest, but found that they were starting a bit early. So I gathered
my photo gear and went to the beach marshall area for permission to
take some pictures.

Last year, I was required to wear a helmet while shooting the event.
Same thing this year, however, they had none to hand out. I was a bit
flustered, because (1) there was a chance I couldn't go out (I don't
own a helmet) and (2) I was thinking about Jon Mozo.

Just nine days prior, Mozo was killed while shooting in the water at
Pipeline/Backdoor. The surf photography world was just blown away at
the loss of such an accomplished and respected waterman. I did not know
him personally, but knew of his work, many times marveling at his
images at Pictures Plus stores. I felt sorrow for his friends and
family, and at the same time, it put the dangers of water surf
photography into lucid clarity.

On top of that, just two days prior, professional surfer Greg Long was
"bumped" by a tiger shark out at Rocky Point (a few hundred yards from
Pipe). There definitely was a ominous tone in the air.

The beach marshals eventually allowed me to go out after I signed my
life away with a waiver. I was out there.

Conditions were far from perfect, with a dying, slightly choppy swell
under extremely overcast skies. Didn't matter--I wanted to get wet and
be a part of the action. The competitors were making the most of it,
pulling into many unmakeable tubes, but trying nonetheless.

The pictures tell the best story of how it went. I first shot off 37
shots with my Nikonos (the bottom eight pics), then played around with
the digital DSC-U60. After more than two hours, I went into the
sponsor's area to talk story with the crew.

Afterwards, I still felt the need to partake in some action myself, so
I got my bodyboard and headed out to OTW. It was pretty testy for me,
with tough whitewater to crack, but I caught a few in the crowd.

Didn't last long though. After my fifth wave, I found myself on the
inside between OTW and Backdoor as a set approached. Got worked really,
really hard, with my thighs seizing (cramps) as the sets pounded me. I
had to just grasp my board and let the waves push me in, to my
embarrassment right in front of the contest area. Getting old and don't
have the endurance I once had.

Passing by the small memorial for Jon Mozo, I was reminded that it was
a privilege for me to surf and to take pictures, and that life should
be cherished, but yet still be lived. That was Jon's outlook on life
and that is how we all should live.

Aloha from Paradise,
sponge
www.hisurfadvisory.com



23 Feb 2005 13:16:59
[email protected]
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

<[email protected] > wrote
>Getting old and don't have the endurance I once had.

How old are you?




23 Feb 2005 17:19:03
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

40

sponge



23 Feb 2005 17:49:23
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

<[email protected] > wrote
> 40

Lol. There's no evidense to the effect that endurance
declines at the age of 40. Stop making excuses.





23 Feb 2005 21:33:42
doc
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


<[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Story with all pics here:
> http://www.hisurfadvisory.com/sesh/new5/sesh584.htm
>
>
> Date: February 18, 2005
> Time: 0800-1030; 1130-1230
> Spot(s): Shot at Pipeline; bodyboarded OTW
> Conditions: Overcast, slight onshore
> Swell: northwest
> Surf: 3-5' Haw'n
>
> Words: Had the day off so I went to the North Shore to check out the
> Monster Energy Pipeline Pro. Hoped to jump in and bodyboard before the
> contest, but found that they were starting a bit early. So I gathered
> my photo gear and went to the beach marshall area for permission to
> take some pictures.
>
> Last year, I was required to wear a helmet while shooting the event.
> Same thing this year, however, they had none to hand out. I was a bit
> flustered, because (1) there was a chance I couldn't go out (I don't
> own a helmet) and (2) I was thinking about Jon Mozo.


Don't just think about him, think about Bud©®¤Ø and the body dings he has
been getting lately. Get a Gath.
http://www.murrays.com/closeouts/closeouts.html

hell, you're on the periphery of the pro circuit, etc, you can prolly
finagle a freebie. _last_ year, you might have been able to score one of the
handouts at a real low price too. They write 'em off as advertising. It's a
beautiful thing.

I mean, do ya want yer daughter to be asking questions about the funny
lookin' dent in yer forehead? naaah. And if ya get a boring white one like I
did, you can let her paint it. Glue yer camera to it, all sorts of
possibilities.

have fun

doc...




23 Feb 2005 23:29:38
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:49:23 -0800, "shaft¨" <[email protected]_ocean.com >
wrote:

><[email protected]> wrote
>> 40
>
>Lol. There's no evidense to the effect that endurance
>declines at the age of 40. Stop making excuses.
>

Now that's funny. He's out at Pipe in dangerous west swells catching
the action and you have been nursing a big toe for months. How's your
conditioning?

You know, there are other reasons than age that a 40 y/o might have a
caused a slip in endurance - like priorities. He has a family to
spend time with. Maybe, with the injuries that come with your
advancing age, you have finally discovered family. Good for you.
Well, Sponge doesn't want to learn the hard way like you did.

_g


24 Feb 2005 07:13:28
todd
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

nie post sponge:-)....todd

............... ><}}}}}">................
"I wish, I wish, I wish I were a fish"
http://community.webtv.net/mzcmn/





24 Feb 2005 07:14:03
todd
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

add c to nie:-)....todd.

............... ><}}}}}">................
"I wish, I wish, I wish I were a fish"
http://community.webtv.net/mzcmn/





24 Feb 2005 07:01:55
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

"george of the jungle" <[email protected] > wrote
> Now that's funny. He's out at Pipe in dangerous west swells catching
> the action and you have been nursing a big toe for months. How's your
> conditioning?

Great. I swam 90% of the way thru the injury. Did yoga every day.
I can still swim 2 miles easily. Even the yoga helps w/muscle tone
and endurance. Judging form your pic, I'm guessing you wouldn't
know...

> You know, there are other reasons than age that a 40 y/o might have a
> caused a slip in endurance - like priorities. He has a family to
> spend time with.

Then thats what he should say. Don't blame it on "old age."
There's no evidense to support his statement.

> Maybe, with the injuries that come with your
> advancing age, you have finally discovered family. Good for you.
> Well, Sponge doesn't want to learn the hard way like you did.

Total bullshit. People can spend several hours in front of the boob
tube everyday and then say they don't have time to stay in shape.

Whats your excuse?




24 Feb 2005 09:13:50
Surfer Bob
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

doc wrote:
> ...Get a Gath. http://www.murrays.com/closeouts/closeouts.html

Whadda ya think? The hat or the retractible visor kind? I very much dig
the small visor on my surfhat, but the Gaths with visors look a little
more cumbersome. And I never see anyone actually use the visor in the
water. Seems like one might pull it down just an inch or two for for
eyeshade between sets and push it back up when the waves comes in.

> ...And if ya get a boring white one like I
> did, you can let her paint it.

This is bound to increase your status in the Pipeline pecking order.

> ...Glue yer camera to it, all sorts of possibilities.

Attach your Pringulation directional antenna to it!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.surfing/msg/b8afd7719851ff4c

> have fun

Having. So are you guys beginning to thaw out on the Cape yet or what?
Today we've got this all but forgotten, ancient phenomenon called
SUNSHINE out here!

AwooOOOO!!!
Surfer Bob



24 Feb 2005 11:07:16
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

Pretty lame how you nitpick stories just to get a rise (modus
operendi). But I'll play.

I'm not apologetic for getting cramps. I was in the water for 2.5 hours
at Pipeline, ducking waves and shooting in the zone. Maybe that isn't
the same as two miles of swimming, but it did cause me to get somewhat
fatigued.

Conditions at OTW were tough. Most of the time, the place is more or
less a closeout that people try to get the most out of (the last big
pic was shot there). Also, I wasn't surprised to get the cramps--using
swim fins makes you susceptible, and sometimes just putting your legs
in an awkward position (which I did while duckdiving on the inside) can
bring on those babies.

And if you want to get super-critical, what I said was, "Getting old
and don't have the endurance I once had." Although you may have thought
I was using age as an excuse, in reality I was stating two independent
facts that may or may not be mutually exclusive.

This little diatribe of yours just evades the facts that I had fun
shooting, I had fun riding the good surf that we were fortunate enough
to receive, and I hoped to share the experience and stoke.

sponge
www.hisurfadvisory.com

P.S. Wait till you see the next set of pics. ;-) Fully expect you to
nitpick that story too because I'll admit more of my personal fallacies.



24 Feb 2005 11:49:04
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

<[email protected] > wrote
> And if you want to get super-critical, what I said was, "Getting old
> and don't have the endurance I once had." Although you may have thought
> I was using age as an excuse, in reality I was stating two independent
> facts that may or may not be mutually exclusive.

Ok. It seemed to me you were implying that since you are 40 now
(wow you are soooooooo old) that you don't have the endurance
you once had. I think anybody would read it as such. If so, you are
perpetuating an old wives tale.

> This little diatribe of yours just evades the facts that I had fun
> shooting, I had fun riding the good surf that we were fortunate enough
> to receive, and I hoped to share the experience and stoke.

Who cares.

> P.S. Wait till you see the next set of pics. ;-)

I look forward to it.

> Fully expect you to
> nitpick that story too because I'll admit more of my personal fallacies.

Sorry to have an opinion. Wouldn't life be so much better if nobody
had an opinion that was contrary to yours and they were like little
robots who never did anything unexpected?




24 Feb 2005 19:55:10
Turby
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On 24 Feb 2005 09:13:50 -0800, "Surfer Bob" <[email protected] >
wrote:

>doc wrote:
>> ...Get a Gath.
>> ...And if ya get a boring white one like I
>> did, you can let her paint it.
>
>This is bound to increase your status in the Pipeline pecking order.

Well, with a magazine logo and "Pro Photog" painted on it...

--
Turby the Turbosurfer


24 Feb 2005 12:42:11
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05


"shaft®" <[email protected]_ocean.com > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote
> > And if you want to get super-critical, what I said was, "Getting old
> > and don't have the endurance I once had." Although you may have thought
> > I was using age as an excuse, in reality I was stating two independent
> > facts that may or may not be mutually exclusive.
>
> Ok. It seemed to me you were implying that since you are 40 now
> (wow you are soooooooo old) that you don't have the endurance
> you once had. I think anybody would read it as such. If so, you are
> perpetuating an old wives tale.

Fact is, you do start falling off physiologically after 40 no matter how
much you train.

Some people get stronger after they're 40 simply because they
never trained to any sort of high level previous to that. If you
were a sedentary weekend surfer who drug partied and pumped
out neglected kids in your 20s and early 30s, then when you
had your mid-life epiphany at age 39 and started swimming
2 miles a day and doing yoga regularly, it might seem to that
person that age isn't a determining factor in physio degradation
as he would become much more fit at age 42 than he was
while puking into garbage bags at age 28.

Steve Redgrave from Britain won his 5th Oly gold in 2000 in
rowing in Sydney at age 40. He trained relentlessly, and claims
that he started falling off a bit physiologically in his last couple
years but was able to win out because of technique and experience.
His Max VO2 had dropped off starting at age 30 or so according
to the testing results, though the effect of the training he gradually
increased VO efficiency to late 30s.

The problem with the age-related physio studies is there is such a
small group of people who train to their max physio ability and sustain
that level of work for many decades.

The few that do definitely fall off as they age. Training is good, though,
it mitigates the decline of fit folks, and if you haven't done much in your
younger
days, you could get stronger.

Mike







24 Feb 2005 13:46:20
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

"Mike Sullivan" <[email protected] > wrote
> Fact is, you do start falling off physiologically after 40 no matter how
> much you train.

Just by putting a number on the zenith tells me you are talking
out of your ass.

> Some people get stronger after they're 40 simply because they
> never trained to any sort of high level previous to that.

Thats entirely true.

>If you
> were a sedentary weekend surfer who drug partied and pumped
> out neglected kids in your 20s and early 30s, then when you
> had your mid-life epiphany at age 39 and started swimming
> 2 miles a day and doing yoga regularly, it might seem to that
> person that age isn't a determining factor in physio degradation
> as he would become much more fit at age 42 than he was
> while puking into garbage bags at age 28.

I don't know anybody who has gone from one extreme to
the other. But for example's sake if you've spent the bulk
of your adult life behind a desk under the guise of "doing
it for your family" but in reality you are buying dirt bikes,
SUV's, horses and a shitload of other material objects
because you are addicted to the american consumer
culture, you really can't gage your physical progress
because that sort of weekend warrior lifestyle is accumulative.

Slow death...

> Steve Redgrave from Britain won his 5th Oly gold in 2000 in
> rowing in Sydney at age 40. He trained relentlessly, and claims
> that he started falling off a bit physiologically in his last couple
> years but was able to win out because of technique and experience.
> His Max VO2 had dropped off starting at age 30 or so according
> to the testing results, though the effect of the training he gradually
> increased VO efficiency to late 30s.

That doesn't prove a thing.

> The problem with the age-related physio studies is there is such a
> small group of people who train to their max physio ability and sustain
> that level of work for many decades.

Agreed. Hence there is no proof that it drops off. Rather if you are
into stuff like performance surfing, it's better to just ignore all the
talk and stay in shape and surf your ass off whenever you get the
chance. Even during the week!

> The few that do definitely fall off as they age.

40 yrs/old is still young.

Believe that it is old, you become even older.
Believe that your conditioning falters and it accelerates.






24 Feb 2005 14:25:17
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05


"shaft®" <[email protected]_ocean.com > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote
> > Fact is, you do start falling off physiologically after 40 no matter how
> > much you train.
>
> Just by putting a number on the zenith tells me you are talking
> out of your ass.

Only so you'll understand wtf I'm talking about. You know
very well we're using '40' in general terms.

snip

> > Steve Redgrave from Britain won his 5th Oly gold in 2000 in
> > rowing in Sydney at age 40. He trained relentlessly, and claims
> > that he started falling off a bit physiologically in his last couple
> > years but was able to win out because of technique and experience.
> > His Max VO2 had dropped off starting at age 30 or so according
> > to the testing results, though the effect of the training he gradually
> > increased VO efficiency to late 30s.
>
> That doesn't prove a thing.

What would? It's an anecdotal story. Bring me an anecdote
of someone who's trained to a high VO efficiency for their
lives and are better at age 45 then they were at age 29. Try
a pro cyclist, for example. Ever been around any athletes?

Here are the results of the CRASH-B indoor rowing
championships. Rowers come from all over the world
to spin the machines to try and win the 'hammer'.

http://www.crash-b.org/results.htm

The top scorers all train about the same quantities in the age group
categories, but the Open category people tend to be college or Elite
level rowers who train a lot more as they prepare for international
racing. Check across the age groups starting with the 30-39 on older
and see if there's a diff.

Tom Bohrer who won the 40-49 age group was a top 3 in the
USA type erger when he was a nat'l teamer as a youngster,
still on top in his age group and very fit, but well off the pace
in the open category where he used to live.

It's on the scoreboard baby.

>
> > The problem with the age-related physio studies is there is such a
> > small group of people who train to their max physio ability and sustain
> > that level of work for many decades.
>
> Agreed. Hence there is no proof that it drops off. Rather if you are

What will you take as evidence? Science is worthless
to you, right? How 'bout we take the word of some
health food guru trying to sell you some anti-aging snake
venom at your trendy fitness center in Tacoma.

Surely there's a tinfoil solution out there you can find.

magnets maybe?

> into stuff like performance surfing, it's better to just ignore all the
> talk and stay in shape and surf your ass off whenever you get the
> chance. Even during the week!
>
> > The few that do definitely fall off as they age.
>
> 40 yrs/old is still young.
>
> Believe that it is old, you become even older.
> Believe that your conditioning falters and it accelerates.

I don't disagree with what you mean, just what you
say, my imprecise little pom pom girl. For most of us,
including you you little walnut cracker you, turning 40
(or 50 for that matter) is insignificant
toward one's health and fitness for doing most physical things
compared to the time and effort you put in to train and
build strength. But you do physiologically deteriorate, period,
training only slows the process.

Surely what you meant to tell Neal was to neglect his
kid and job and get out there and train so he too can
crack walnuts...

Mike






24 Feb 2005 15:09:26
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

"Mike Sullivan" <[email protected] > wrote
> Only so you'll understand wtf I'm talking about. You know
> very well we're using '40' in general terms.

Nice backpeddling. Why don't you throw in a little pirouette
and then put your hands on your hips, jump up and click your
heels together for a finale. Excellent!

> What would? It's an anecdotal story. Bring me an anecdote
> of someone who's trained to a high VO efficiency for their
> lives and are better at age 45 then they were at age 29. Try
> a pro cyclist, for example. Ever been around any athletes?

No only weekend warriors like yourself. Which is why your whole
arguement is rediculous coming from a guy who has spent his
whole adult life behind a desk so he can go to the mall on the
weekends...

> Here are the results of the CRASH-B indoor rowing
> championships. Rowers come from all over the world
> to spin the machines to try and win the 'hammer'.
>
> http://www.crash-b.org/results.htm
>
> The top scorers all train about the same quantities in the age group
> categories, but the Open category people tend to be college or Elite
> level rowers who train a lot more as they prepare for international
> racing. Check across the age groups starting with the 30-39 on older
> and see if there's a diff.
>
> Tom Bohrer who won the 40-49 age group was a top 3 in the
> USA type erger when he was a nat'l teamer as a youngster,
> still on top in his age group and very fit, but well off the pace
> in the open category where he used to live.
>
> It's on the scoreboard baby.

I'll take that back. You have proven something. Namely you
don't know WTH you are talking about.

> I don't disagree with what you mean, just what you
> say, my imprecise little pom pom girl. For most of us,
> including you you little walnut cracker you, turning 40
> (or 50 for that matter) is insignificant
> toward one's health and fitness for doing most physical things
> compared to the time and effort you put in to train and
> build strength. But you do physiologically deteriorate, period,
> training only slows the process.

Really? Mind blowing!

> Surely what you meant to tell Neal was to neglect his
> kid and job and get out there and train so he too can
> crack walnuts...

I just called bullshit on him saying that since he was now 40 yo,
that his lack of conditioning was due to age.

Missing out on most of your life b/c your wife and kids
have been farting thru silk their whole lives is starting
to take it's toll on you, isn't it?




24 Feb 2005 13:43:56
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On 24 Feb 2005 09:13:50 -0800, "Surfer Bob" <[email protected] >
wrote:
>Having. So are you guys beginning to thaw out on the Cape yet or what?
>Today we've got this all but forgotten, ancient phenomenon called
>SUNSHINE out here!

Hah! Snow, then cold, then snow then cold - 5 day forecast.

_g


24 Feb 2005 13:48:02
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:01:55 -0800, "shaft¨" <[email protected]_ocean.com >
wrote:

>"george of the jungle" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Now that's funny. He's out at Pipe in dangerous west swells catching
>> the action and you have been nursing a big toe for months. How's your
>> conditioning?
>
>Great. I swam 90% of the way thru the injury. Did yoga every day.
>I can still swim 2 miles easily. Even the yoga helps w/muscle tone
>and endurance.

Good for you.

> Judging form your pic

I don't post pics and I don't have a web site.


>People can spend several hours in front of the boob
>tube everyday and then say they don't have time to stay in shape.

Agreed on that one.

_g


24 Feb 2005 19:01:44
Rico
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"george of the jungle" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On 24 Feb 2005 09:13:50 -0800, "Surfer Bob" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Having. So are you guys beginning to thaw out on the Cape yet or what?
>>Today we've got this all but forgotten, ancient phenomenon called
>>SUNSHINE out here!
>
> Hah! Snow, then cold, then snow then cold - 5 day forecast.
>
> _g

Then again our houses are not sliding down some hillside where they never
should have been built in the first place .

And

It might hit 40 degrees on Monday/Tues.
Oboy !

Rico
Having a Tim Maddux Winter .




24 Feb 2005 14:07:07
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On 24 Feb 2005 11:07:16 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Pretty lame how you nitpick stories just to get a rise (modus
>operendi). But I'll play.
>
>I'm not apologetic for getting cramps. I was in the water for 2.5 hours
>at Pipeline, ducking waves and shooting in the zone. Maybe that isn't
>the same as two miles of swimming, but it did cause me to get somewhat
>fatigued.

You do see the humor in this. 2&1/2 hours of Pipe in a west swell is
harder than 2 miles of swimming under calm conditions. No excuses
needed.

_g


24 Feb 2005 16:00:17
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05


"shaft®" <[email protected]_ocean.com > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote
> > Only so you'll understand wtf I'm talking about. You know
> > very well we're using '40' in general terms.
>
> Nice backpeddling. Why don't you throw in a little pirouette
> and then put your hands on your hips, jump up and click your
> heels together for a finale. Excellent!

righto, beanie boy. Let's check my spelling now!
It's charming when you hang on my every word.

>
> > What would? It's an anecdotal story. Bring me an anecdote
> > of someone who's trained to a high VO efficiency for their
> > lives and are better at age 45 then they were at age 29. Try
> > a pro cyclist, for example. Ever been around any athletes?
>
> No only weekend warriors like yourself. Which is why your whole
> arguement is rediculous coming from a guy who has spent his
> whole adult life behind a desk so he can go to the mall on the
> weekends...

don't project, peanut. Just because I've bought into parenting
doesn't mean I'm buying at the mall. I'll leave that to the
summer dads.

snip

> I just called bullshit on him saying that since he was now 40 yo,
> that his lack of conditioning was due to age.

true, but then you tried to sound
like you knew what you were talking
about and I called you on it again.
>
> Missing out on most of your life b/c your wife and kids
> have been farting thru silk their whole lives is starting
> to take it's toll on you, isn't it?

lol. your mascara is running.

you make choices. you
accept, maybe even embrace the consequences of those
choices, even if they don't match what the marketing people
have sold you on. Let me give you a hint, that means you
end up sitting in the rain being a timer at a swim meet
instead of surfing on a thursday afternoon.

you ought to try it someday!

Mike






24 Feb 2005 19:18:01
doc
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"Surfer Bob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> doc wrote:
>> ...Get a Gath. http://www.murrays.com/closeouts/closeouts.html
>
> Whadda ya think? The hat or the retractible visor kind? I very much dig
> the small visor on my surfhat, but the Gaths with visors look a little
> more cumbersome. And I never see anyone actually use the visor in the
> water. Seems like one might pull it down just an inch or two for for
> eyeshade between sets and push it back up when the waves comes in.

The hat, unless you're into looking like Robocop.
>
>> ...And if ya get a boring white one like I
>> did, you can let her paint it.
>
> This is bound to increase your status in the Pipeline pecking order.

Depends on what's painted on there.
http://www.customstds.com/Lustback9black.jpgprolly wouldn't work out too
well. http://www.customstds.com/RynoSpongeBobHelmet.htmis something I don't
understand, and I'm reasonably happy I don't understand.

Could always use that cheezy aluminum paint and then stencil 'Gleshna' on
the front.
>
>> ...Glue yer camera to it, all sorts of possibilities.
>
> Attach your Pringulation directional antenna to it!
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.surfing/msg/b8afd7719851ff4c
>
>> have fun
>
> Having. So are you guys beginning to thaw out on the Cape yet or what?
> Today we've got this all but forgotten, ancient phenomenon called
> SUNSHINE out here!

Amidst the mudslides? good. Prolly how they invented adobe. In the meantime,
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MAZ022&warncounty=MAC001&local_place1=Eastham&product1=Heavy+Snow+Warning

that answer your question??

good.

doc...getting REAL tired of this winter wonderland jazz.......




25 Feb 2005 00:28:57
SKIPPER
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

Rico <[email protected] > wrote:
> It might hit 40 degrees on Monday/Tues.
> Oboy !

> Rico
> Having a Tim Maddux Winter .

How is that different from a Tim Maddux summer?

-PA



24 Feb 2005 19:29:07
Rico
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"doc" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Surfer Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> doc wrote:
>>> ...Get a Gath. http://www.murrays.com/closeouts/closeouts.html
>>
>> Whadda ya think? The hat or the retractible visor kind? I very much dig
>> the small visor on my surfhat, but the Gaths with visors look a little
>> more cumbersome. And I never see anyone actually use the visor in the
>> water. Seems like one might pull it down just an inch or two for for
>> eyeshade between sets and push it back up when the waves comes in.
>
> The hat, unless you're into looking like Robocop.
>>
>>> ...And if ya get a boring white one like I
>>> did, you can let her paint it.
>>
>> This is bound to increase your status in the Pipeline pecking order.
>
> Depends on what's painted on there.
> http://www.customstds.com/Lustback9black.jpgprolly wouldn't work out too
> well. http://www.customstds.com/RynoSpongeBobHelmet.htmis something I
> don't understand, and I'm reasonably happy I don't understand.
>
> Could always use that cheezy aluminum paint and then stencil 'Gleshna' on
> the front.
>>
>>> ...Glue yer camera to it, all sorts of possibilities.
>>
>> Attach your Pringulation directional antenna to it!
>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.surfing/msg/b8afd7719851ff4c
>>
>>> have fun
>>
>> Having. So are you guys beginning to thaw out on the Cape yet or what?
>> Today we've got this all but forgotten, ancient phenomenon called
>> SUNSHINE out here!
>
> Amidst the mudslides? good. Prolly how they invented adobe. In the
> meantime,
> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MAZ022&warncounty=MAC001&local_place1=Eastham&product1=Heavy+Snow+Warning
>
> that answer your question??
>
> good.
>
> doc...getting REAL tired of this winter wonderland jazz.......
>

I see you're having a Maddux Winter too .

Rico




24 Feb 2005 16:36:18
[email protected]
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

"george of the jungle" <[email protected] > wrote
> You do see the humor in this. 2&1/2 hours of Pipe in a west swell is
> harder than 2 miles of swimming under calm conditions.

I don't think anyone is disputing that.

But I suppose if you have a learning disability
you might interprit my comment that way.




24 Feb 2005 16:40:52
[email protected]
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

"SKIPPER" <[email protected] > wrote
> How is that different from a Tim Maddux summer?

Or a Rico summer/winter?




24 Feb 2005 20:05:30
Rico
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"SKIPPER" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Rico <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It might hit 40 degrees on Monday/Tues.
>> Oboy !
>
>> Rico
>> Having a Tim Maddux Winter .
>
> How is that different from a Tim Maddux summer?
>
> -PA
>

Same like the one he spent here .

Rico




24 Feb 2005 17:28:47
Surfer Bob
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

doc wrote:
> The hat, unless you're into looking like Robocop.

I heard someone liken the look to Darth Vader once. But Robocop is much
more like it. Have you ever seen someone go on a wave with the visor
down? Seems like it might fill up with water, impede your breathing,
and otherwise generally f*** with you.

> Amidst the mudslides? good. Prolly how they invented adobe.

Well my li'l ol' house hasn't slid away- yet. Cleaned the friggen
raingutters out about 5x this winter, but we're still here. And the
tangerines are bearing fruit!

> doc...getting REAL tired of this winter wonderland jazz.......

We're having the greenest winter into spring in a century out here! You
should come visit. The wildflowers will be outrageous soon. The sandbar
barrels already are.

Awooo!
Surfer Bob



24 Feb 2005 21:36:15
doc
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"Surfer Bob" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> doc wrote:
>> The hat, unless you're into looking like Robocop.
>
> I heard someone liken the look to Darth Vader once. But Robocop is much
> more like it. Have you ever seen someone go on a wave with the visor
> down? Seems like it might fill up with water, impede your breathing,
> and otherwise generally f*** with you.

Plus salt drying on it, etc. Which tends to make me think it's worse than
useless.
>
>> Amidst the mudslides? good. Prolly how they invented adobe.
>
> Well my li'l ol' house hasn't slid away- yet. Cleaned the friggen
> raingutters out about 5x this winter, but we're still here. And the
> tangerines are bearing fruit!

Ah huh. Wayull, here I'm looking at nursery catalogs ( tree nurseries, that
is, apple trees and such) and contemplating the idea that my well is gonna
be Just Fine this year. Looking at wintering in warmer climes from here on
in ...and Ferg, if you see this, keep your eyes peeled for a Smith Model 57.
Finder's fee payable in New England seafood and boat work.
>
>> doc...getting REAL tired of this winter wonderland jazz.......
>
> We're having the greenest winter into spring in a century out here! You
> should come visit. The wildflowers will be outrageous soon. The sandbar
> barrels already are.

Heh - the mayflowers will be showing up soon here, the croci ( cos
'crocuses' seems kinda clumsy ) poking through the snow before that. And
spring, in spite of the mud caused by frost defrosting in the ground, I
kinda dig it. The smell of soil getting ready to kick out greenery...yeah.

And... not to be unkind, but for me visiting California is like having a
vasectomy. Do it once and ya don't have to do it again. Did it once ( the
name 'Roseville' still causes shudders ) and I don't need to, ever again.

Why don't you take a sag out thisaway instead. Between Rico and me, we can
prolly show ya a fair time of it. Do it in the fall and the kids' room will
be open here, or likely better and more civilised at Casa Rico. Might even
be able to drag the Checkered Demon hisself south for the soiree. And that's
an education in itself.

Mebbe in a decade or so, might take a bit of a trip or ten, her and me. By
ship, across the seas to where the food is good and we can swipe ideas and
the waves are okay for an old man on a kneeboard. @lex has painted a picture
I'd like to see closer, for a month or three. And there's others. But when I
head west, it's a-gonna be lots more west or south by west.

kickin' back, a few ales to the good ( Mike, take heed ) and waiting for the
preciptiation...

doc....




24 Feb 2005 19:09:38
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On 24 Feb 2005 17:28:47 -0800, "Surfer Bob" <[email protected] >
wrote:

>doc wrote:
>> The hat, unless you're into looking like Robocop.
>
>I heard someone liken the look to Darth Vader once. But Robocop is much
>more like it. Have you ever seen someone go on a wave with the visor
>down? Seems like it might fill up with water, impede your breathing,
>and otherwise generally f*** with you.
>
>> Amidst the mudslides? good. Prolly how they invented adobe.
>
>Well my li'l ol' house hasn't slid away- yet. Cleaned the friggen
>raingutters out about 5x this winter, but we're still here. And the
>tangerines are bearing fruit!
>
>> doc...getting REAL tired of this winter wonderland jazz.......
>
>We're having the greenest winter into spring in a century out here! You
>should come visit. The wildflowers will be outrageous soon.

They already are in the desert. I did field work in Anza Borrego years
ago. Even Death Valley is going off in flowers. Check it out.

http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html

_g


24 Feb 2005 19:35:02
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:36:18 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]_door.com >
wrote:

>"george of the jungle" <[email protected]> wrote
>> You do see the humor in this. 2&1/2 hours of Pipe in a west swell is
>> harder than 2 miles of swimming under calm conditions.
>
>I don't think anyone is disputing that.
>
>But I suppose if you have a learning disability
>you might interprit my comment that way.
>

I didn't. You got sucked over the falls again.

_g

LOL


24 Feb 2005 20:12:22
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:00:17 -0800, "Mike Sullivan"
<[email protected] > wrote:

> Let me give you a hint, that means you
>end up sitting in the rain being a timer at a swim meet
>instead of surfing on a thursday afternoon.
>
>you ought to try it someday!
>
>Mike
>
>
>

Some of those girls competition outfits are pretty transparent. You
dirty old man, you.

_g


24 Feb 2005 22:37:06
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"doc" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>

snip

> Mebbe in a decade or so, might take a bit of a trip or ten, her and me. By

catch me up, you actually married now again?

> ship, across the seas to where the food is good and we can swipe ideas and
> the waves are okay for an old man on a kneeboard. @lex has painted a
picture
> I'd like to see closer, for a month or three. And there's others. But when
I
> head west, it's a-gonna be lots more west or south by west.

not offended, but you are missing stuff. There's quiet places near here.

>
> kickin' back, a few ales to the good ( Mike, take heed ) and waiting for
the
> preciptiation...

C'mon, you met me, I wouldn't know a good beer
if I spilt it on Rico's nice carpet.....

(I only spilt a little on his Ridgie.....) :^)

Mike




24 Feb 2005 23:18:51
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05


"george of the jungle" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:00:17 -0800, "Mike Sullivan"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
snip

> Some of those girls competition outfits are pretty transparent. You
> dirty old man, you.

I'm guilty of a breadth of weaknesses, habits, compulsions, and
desires - young women not included.

You got to get to at least 30 before you even catch my eye,
else you're a kid. I did something like it between 1970-85.

Look at Lemming ferinstance. 10 years ago she was an alluring
tight cheeked lass with a 'tude that turned everybody's head on
AS but couldn't catch my eye if it rolled under the table.

Now that she's put a few lines in her face, and
the drug abuse has puffed up her nose a bit,
and is battling the noble war against gravity,
I've started to take notice.

Whatta babe!

Mike




25 Feb 2005 06:48:56
doc
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"Mike Sullivan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "doc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>
> snip
>
>> Mebbe in a decade or so, might take a bit of a trip or ten, her and me.
>
> catch me up, you actually married now again?

not yet, might not period, living in sin has its charms too. At my age, and
having known each other for 45 years or so, there is a very different set of
priorities.
.
>
> not offended, but you are missing stuff. There's quiet places near
> here.

well, y'see, there is this other thing; I really, really don't like places
with too much height to 'em. And I happened to notice that the good stuff
out that way seems to involve going throough one damn mountain pass or
another.
>
>>
>> kickin' back, a few ales to the good ( Mike, take heed ) and waiting for
> the
>> preciptiation...
>
> C'mon, you met me, I wouldn't know a good beer
> if I spilt it on Rico's nice carpet.....

wayull, my friend, there's a distinct difference betwixt and between 'a few
ales to the good ' and ' a few good ales' - I figure that if it's not from
Anheuser -Busch, I can drink it, though some are definitely better than
others.

The local off-license hasn't got Magic Hat or something of that ilk and I
have to make do with Harpoon. It's that time of year when the small
breweries start cranking out Irish Ale, which I've never been that crazy
about either.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

In the meantime, http://jfmill.home.comcast.net/temp/2005_0225Image0012.JPG
as of this morning, 6 AM and it's still coming down. The ale bottle shown to
give a little scale
>
> (I only spilt a little on his Ridgie.....) :^)

On that beast, it could only be an improvement. Then again, if a dog's not a
retriever, preferably a Chesapeake or Labrador, I kinda wonder what its
function is. That's what happens when ya grow up on a marsh... you develop
an idea of what a dog is supposed to do and go on from there.

ahh well, _my_ retriever is taking his first nap of the day . And he may be
onto something.

doc...




25 Feb 2005 06:28:30
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

"george of the jungle" <[email protected] > wrote
> I don't post pics and I don't have a web site.

What do you have to hide?




25 Feb 2005 06:36:47
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

"Mike Sullivan" <[email protected] > wrote
> "shaft®" <[email protected]_ocean.com> wrote
> > Nice backpeddling. Why don't you throw in a little pirouette
> > and then put your hands on your hips, jump up and click your
> > heels together for a finale. Excellent!
>
> righto, beanie boy. Let's check my spelling now!
> It's charming when you hang on my every word.

No need to check spelling when you are laying down
little numbers like above. You are one hot little dancing
queen...

Take a bow. You've earned it!

> true, but then you tried to sound
> like you knew what you were talking
> about and I called you on it again.

Have it your way. Your physical talents fade at age 40,
mine don't. At least you still can lay down a hot little
NG jig every now and again!

> you make choices. you
> accept, maybe even embrace the consequences of those
> choices, even if they don't match what the marketing people
> have sold you on. Let me give you a hint, that means you
> end up sitting in the rain being a timer at a swim meet
> instead of surfing on a thursday afternoon.
>
> you ought to try it someday!

No thanks. You can go to work everyday, step-n-fetchit for
the man so you can shop on the weekends and I'll stay home
and homeschool. Surfing's not just a sport, it's part of the
curriculum!




25 Feb 2005 09:25:57
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"doc" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >

snip

> > not offended, but you are missing stuff. There's quiet places near
> > here.
>
> well, y'see, there is this other thing; I really, really don't like places
> with too much height to 'em. And I happened to notice that the good stuff
> out that way seems to involve going throough one damn mountain pass or
> another.

No you can come to Cali via the southern route and miss mountain passes
altogether. Aim for Barstow and the town of Mojave. Then you can cut
straight across to Santa Maria and up the coast. It's a pretty interesting
part of California I think.

snip
> On that beast, it could only be an improvement. Then again, if a dog's not
a
> retriever, preferably a Chesapeake or Labrador, I kinda wonder what its
> function is. That's what happens when ya grow up on a marsh... you develop
> an idea of what a dog is supposed to do and go on from there.

Hey, Rico has not been attacked by a lion or a hyena, so the
dog's doing his job!!

Mike




25 Feb 2005 09:43:04
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05


"shaft®" <[email protected]_ocean.com > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote
> > "shaft®" <[email protected]_ocean.com> wrote


> > true, but then you tried to sound
> > like you knew what you were talking
> > about and I called you on it again.
>
> Have it your way. Your physical talents fade at age 40,
> mine don't. At least you still can lay down a hot little
> NG jig every now and again!

You can't go over the hill unless you go to the top. You've
gone around. It's easy to see from here because there's no
evidence of an understanding that you've lost something you
once had as you've aged. You can't lose what you never had.

But that's cool, there's a million other challenges, other hills
to climb after the physiological peak of our 30s. Try one!

BTW dear, I'll let you lead every once in a while
in our dance, but stop looking at your feet!

> > you ought to try it someday!
>
> No thanks. You can go to work everyday, step-n-fetchit for
> the man so you can shop on the weekends and I'll stay home
> and homeschool. Surfing's not just a sport, it's part of the
> curriculum!

good for you, homeschool can be a great choice.

Mike




25 Feb 2005 14:17:28
doc
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"Mike Sullivan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "doc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >
>
> snip
>
>> > not offended, but you are missing stuff. There's quiet places near
>> > here.
>>
>> well, y'see, there is this other thing; I really, really don't like
>> places
>> with too much height to 'em. And I happened to notice that the good stuff
>> out that way seems to involve going throough one damn mountain pass or
>> another.
>
> No you can come to Cali via the southern route and miss mountain passes
> altogether. Aim for Barstow and the town of Mojave. Then you can cut
> straight across to Santa Maria and up the coast. It's a pretty
> interesting
> part of California I think.

ah huh. maybe i could arrive by sea.

deserts......
>
> snip
>> On that beast, it could only be an improvement. Then again, if a dog's
>> not
> a
>> retriever, preferably a Chesapeake or Labrador, I kinda wonder what its
>> function is. That's what happens when ya grow up on a marsh... you
>> develop
>> an idea of what a dog is supposed to do and go on from there.
>
> Hey, Rico has not been attacked by a lion or a hyena, so the
> dog's doing his job!!

Right - what was that old one, 'may your home be safe from tigers'.....

Now, here, with Sam the Surf Dog, I consider myself absolutely protected
from any marauding pack of feral pork chops, marrow bones, biscuits of all
kinds and the like. Besides, he keeps the mattress or the couch from
escaping by lying on them alternately and sleeping 'em into submission.




25 Feb 2005 09:37:56
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:28:30 -0800, "shaft¨" <[email protected]_ocean.com >
wrote:

>"george of the jungle" <[email protected]> wrote
>> I don't post pics and I don't have a web site.
>
>What do you have to hide?
>

That the surf here sucks.

_g


25 Feb 2005 15:07:55
Rico
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"Mike Sullivan" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "doc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> >
>
> snip
>
>> > not offended, but you are missing stuff. There's quiet places near
>> > here.
>>
>> well, y'see, there is this other thing; I really, really don't like
>> places
>> with too much height to 'em. And I happened to notice that the good stuff
>> out that way seems to involve going throough one damn mountain pass or
>> another.
>
> No you can come to Cali via the southern route and miss mountain passes
> altogether. Aim for Barstow and the town of Mojave. Then you can cut
> straight across to Santa Maria and up the coast. It's a pretty
> interesting
> part of California I think.
>
> snip
>> On that beast, it could only be an improvement. Then again, if a dog's
>> not
> a
>> retriever, preferably a Chesapeake or Labrador, I kinda wonder what its
>> function is. That's what happens when ya grow up on a marsh... you
>> develop
>> an idea of what a dog is supposed to do and go on from there.
>
> Hey, Rico has not been attacked by a lion or a hyena, so the
> dog's doing his job!!
>
> Mike
>

Damn straight !
No burgulators neither .
I might be worried if it was a male but she's a bitch and you know how
snippy they can be .

Rico




25 Feb 2005 15:10:21
Rico
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"doc" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "doc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>>
>>> "Mike Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>> >
>>
>> snip
>>
>>> > not offended, but you are missing stuff. There's quiet places near
>>> > here.
>>>
>>> well, y'see, there is this other thing; I really, really don't like
>>> places
>>> with too much height to 'em. And I happened to notice that the good
>>> stuff
>>> out that way seems to involve going throough one damn mountain pass or
>>> another.
>>
>> No you can come to Cali via the southern route and miss mountain passes
>> altogether. Aim for Barstow and the town of Mojave. Then you can cut
>> straight across to Santa Maria and up the coast. It's a pretty
>> interesting
>> part of California I think.
>
> ah huh. maybe i could arrive by sea.
>
> deserts......
>>
>> snip
>>> On that beast, it could only be an improvement. Then again, if a dog's
>>> not
>> a
>>> retriever, preferably a Chesapeake or Labrador, I kinda wonder what its
>>> function is. That's what happens when ya grow up on a marsh... you
>>> develop
>>> an idea of what a dog is supposed to do and go on from there.
>>
>> Hey, Rico has not been attacked by a lion or a hyena, so the
>> dog's doing his job!!
>
> Right - what was that old one, 'may your home be safe from tigers'.....
>
> Now, here, with Sam the Surf Dog, I consider myself absolutely protected
> from any marauding pack of feral pork chops, marrow bones, biscuits of all
> kinds and the like. Besides, he keeps the mattress or the couch from
> escaping by lying on them alternately and sleeping 'em into submission.
>

Then there's Super Bitch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/joeconrad/snowpile.jpg

Rico




25 Feb 2005 15:34:03
doc
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


"Rico" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> Then there's Super Bitch
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/joeconrad/snowpile.jpg
>
> Rico

I gotta say, I have never before seen an expression of disgust like that on
a dog......

and I can't blame her. Getting a little fed up with this winter stuff
myself.




25 Feb 2005 13:06:11
Foon
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

Rico says...
>Then there's Super Bitch
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/joeconrad/snowpile.jpg

I'd be bitchy too if I had to squat in a mountain of snow to pee.
That kind of cold water invokes the acorn factor.

-FaFrozen Foon (5 inches of yesterdays fluffy is mostly melted today.)



25 Feb 2005 13:35:17
pnwk
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05


The last time I was there which was about the same age
It was Packed to the gills and occassionally feathering on the second
reef
I too concluded
that life should be cherished and lived
so here I still am



25 Feb 2005 18:20:38
The Checkered Demon
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

"hubris®" wrote:
> I'll stay home and homeschool.
>

Good! Pay attention to your English
courses, this time. You may *finally* get
your G.E.D. .

---------------------------------------
Chexter
"Yeah, alright...didn't rain much, no buttons to push"
-James Marshall Hendrix




26 Feb 2005 15:46:53
Surfer Bob
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

Dick=AE wrote:
> ...I'll stay home and homeschool....

I thought your children were raised by wolves, unfortunate ex's, and/or
the taxpayers of the state of Washington when alimony began to exceed
the surfers club salary?

> ... Surfing's not just a sport, it's part of the curriculum!

New unit, kiddies: surf photography! Teach 'em how to use that
underutilized digicam of yours, tell 'em to point it at you while
you're charging those 3x overhead waves you keep telling us about, and
start posting some surf content around here for a change.

Surfer Bob



27 Feb 2005 02:34:26
Turby
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:09:38 -1000, george of the jungle
<[email protected] > wrote:

>On 24 Feb 2005 17:28:47 -0800, "Surfer Bob" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>We're having the greenest winter into spring in a century out here! You
>>should come visit. The wildflowers will be outrageous soon.
>
>They already are in the desert. I did field work in Anza Borrego years
>ago. Even Death Valley is going off in flowers. Check it out.
>
>http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html

Ayup. I rode out to Anza Borrego last weekend. The quotes are from a
post I made on rec.motorcycles:
http://client.webshots.com/album/283202060axTuAk

--
Turby the Turbosurfer


27 Feb 2005 00:17:46
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:34:26 GMT, Turby <[email protected] >
wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:09:38 -1000, george of the jungle
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 24 Feb 2005 17:28:47 -0800, "Surfer Bob" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>We're having the greenest winter into spring in a century out here! You
>>>should come visit. The wildflowers will be outrageous soon.
>>
>>They already are in the desert. I did field work in Anza Borrego years
>>ago. Even Death Valley is going off in flowers. Check it out.
>>
>>http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html
>
>Ayup. I rode out to Anza Borrego last weekend. The quotes are from a
>post I made on rec.motorcycles:
>http://client.webshots.com/album/283202060axTuAk


This spring in the desert looks amazing in th epictures I have seen.
Do you know where Coyote canyon is?


27 Feb 2005 17:27:01
Turby
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:17:46 -1000, george of the jungle
<[email protected] > wrote:

>This spring in the desert looks amazing in the pictures I have seen.

It is purty.

>Do you know where Coyote canyon is?

I'm going there in two weeks. Da Boyz annual party. Getting over the
Bypass is always fun. Why do you ask?

--
Turby the Turbosurfer


27 Feb 2005 11:38:36
george of the jungle
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:27:01 GMT, Turby <[email protected] >
wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:17:46 -1000, george of the jungle
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This spring in the desert looks amazing in the pictures I have seen.
>
>It is purty.
>
>>Do you know where Coyote canyon is?
>
>I'm going there in two weeks. Da Boyz annual party. Getting over the
>Bypass

Is the bypass something new?

> is always fun. Why do you ask?

I spent a lot of time there doing fieldwork. What kind of access is
there now?

_g


27 Feb 2005 13:47:25
Mike Sullivan
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05



Turby wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:17:46 -1000, george of the jungle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >This spring in the desert looks amazing in the pictures I have seen.
>
> It is purty.
>

The desert at wildflower bloom was our honeymoon dest, all those
places mentioned here.

Mike






27 Feb 2005 18:48:30
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

"Surfer Bob" <[email protected] > wrote
>New unit, kiddies: surf photography! Teach 'em how to use that
>underutilized digicam of yours, tell 'em to point it at you while
>you're charging those 3x overhead waves you keep telling us about, and
>start posting some surf content around here for a change.

You have to be kidding? Aren't you?

I get much more mileage out of you this way.




28 Feb 2005 09:17:19
Turby
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:38:36 -1000, george of the jungle
<[email protected] > wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:27:01 GMT, Turby <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:17:46 -1000, george of the jungle
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>This spring in the desert looks amazing in the pictures I have seen.
>>
>>It is purty.
>>
>>>Do you know where Coyote canyon is?
>>
>>I'm going there in two weeks. Da Boyz annual party. Getting over the
>>Bypass
>
>Is the bypass something new?

It's been a while, eh? (Or perhaps you just didn't know the name.) At
least 20 years ago, maybe a lot longer, they stopped traffic going up
the streambed at the Lower Willows. They built a bypass (~ a mile)
that is a real bitch of a 4WD road. Steep, loose boulders, tight
turns, it's killed a lot of vehicles. They rebuild it every year after
the rains, but it gets worse with every vehicle. It's actually a good
thing because it keeps a lot of riff-raff out.

--
Turby the Turbosurfer


28 Feb 2005 08:13:57
Surfer Bob
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

Have fun, but be careful out there friends. Desert spirits are waxing
powerful in this especially fecund year, so plan accordingly. Like
don't have unprotected sex unless you're ready for twins.

AwOOOOOOOO!!!! (howling at the desert moon)
Surfer Bob



28 Feb 2005 10:47:59
Surfer Bob
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

Dick=AE wrote:
> You have to be kidding? Aren't you?

Me? Kidding? About you charging consequential waves? I would *never*.

You say you used to do that occasionally. And you've certainly never
given us any reason to doubt you.

Surfer Bob



28 Feb 2005 20:04:27
SKIPPER
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

Surfer Bob <[email protected] > wrote:
> Dick® wrote:
> > You have to be kidding? Aren't you?

> Me? Kidding? About you charging consequential waves? I would *never*.

> You say you used to do that occasionally. And you've certainly never
> given us any reason to doubt you.

charging consequential free sushi, maybe

-PA




28 Feb 2005 13:26:15
shaft®
Re: Thinking of Robots -- 2/18/05

"SKIPPER" <[email protected] > wrote
> charging consequential free sushi, maybe

I don't mind charging sushi...

As long as it's on someone elses card.




04 Mar 2005 08:05:50
Re: Thinking of Jon -- 2/18/05

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, shaft=AE wrote:

> <[email protected]> wrote
>> 40
>
> Lol. There's no evidense to the effect that endurance
> declines at the age of 40. Stop making excuses.

On it's own, endurance, hand-eye reflex reaction, etc., begin to decline=20
during late 20s/early 30s. Even an active regimem can't keep it from=20
happening, just the rapidity of decline. Want sources: look at=20
professional sports across-the-board.

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