29 May 2006 16:37:39
Mike
New York City spots but no car

Hi everyone,
I moved in New York City this past year, and this summer is going to be
my first in the city. I am originaly from an island in the
Mediterranean, and back home I windsurf a lot. The conditions I
windsurf in are 4-5bf with 5-6m sails with a freestyle board. I would
really love to windsurf here in NYC, but I have no idea of any spots. I
do not own a car. I was considering renting equipment whenever I wanted
to windsurf (during weekends). Do you guys have any recommendations for
me? Are there any spots which I could acceess with subway and/or bus
that offer good windsufring conditions? What type and size of sails and
boars do they use in such spots (if any exist)? Am I out of luck here?
Any advise is greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot for the help.

Mike



29 May 2006 18:50:11
LeeD
Re: New York City spots but no car

You're out of luck....
Nah, I don't know, haven't been to Manhattan since '89.
Rental can exist on LongIsland, but you gotta sub it out to there,
then rent a car to get to the beach.
Worse, winds are likely highly unpredictable, with summer averages
extemely non planing.
Spring/fall is better, but nothing like you're used to.
If you wanna windsurf in the USA, gotta have your gear and your car
together and ready.



30 May 2006 03:08:43
Brian
Re: New York City spots but no car


Take the subway out to the beach (Rockaway) and walk around to
familiarize yourself with the area. People bring surfboards on the
subway so you should be able to get away with bringing windsurfing
equipment. Just keep your gear strapped together and out of everyone's
way.

After you learn how the subway works, try taking the ferry to Sandy
Hook, NJ, or the Seastreak commuter ferry to Atlantic Highlands. Both
these options are much more expensive than the subway. But there are
plenty of windsurfers at Sandy Hook if it is a nice day. If not, you
have a great bay area all to yourself.

If you are a dedicated windsurfer you will learn where the best spots
are. New York is an island surrounded by plenty of water. Keep at it.



30 May 2006 06:42:37
Re: New York City spots but no car

There is no place close enough to the City where you can rent gear and
sail. However, if you are prepared to also rent a car, you can head
down to Extreme Windsurfing right outside Atlantic City.

Joel

Mike wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I moved in New York City this past year, and this summer is going to be
> my first in the city. I am originaly from an island in the
> Mediterranean, and back home I windsurf a lot. The conditions I
> windsurf in are 4-5bf with 5-6m sails with a freestyle board. I would
> really love to windsurf here in NYC, but I have no idea of any spots. I
> do not own a car. I was considering renting equipment whenever I wanted
> to windsurf (during weekends). Do you guys have any recommendations for
> me? Are there any spots which I could acceess with subway and/or bus
> that offer good windsufring conditions? What type and size of sails and
> boars do they use in such spots (if any exist)? Am I out of luck here?
> Any advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks a lot for the help.
>
> Mike



30 May 2006 11:02:36
Florian Feuser
Re: New York City spots but no car

On 2006-05-30 06:08:43 -0400, "Brian" <brianclerkin@netscape.net > said:

>
> Take the subway out to the beach (Rockaway) and walk around to
> familiarize yourself with the area. People bring surfboards on the
> subway so you should be able to get away with bringing windsurfing
> equipment. Just keep your gear strapped together and out of everyone's
> way.
>
> After you learn how the subway works, try taking the ferry to Sandy
> Hook, NJ, or the Seastreak commuter ferry to Atlantic Highlands. Both
> these options are much more expensive than the subway. But there are
> plenty of windsurfers at Sandy Hook if it is a nice day. If not, you
> have a great bay area all to yourself.
>
> If you are a dedicated windsurfer you will learn where the best spots
> are. New York is an island surrounded by plenty of water. Keep at it.

Well, I have to admit that you see ll kinds of people and things on the
new york subway, but I have not yet seen someone go sailing with their
complete kit under their arm.

New York isn't the place where you put on your board shorts, grab a 70l
board and your 4.7 and hop on a train - you need to carry a lot more
(and bigger) equipment if you want to get it right. It certainly would
be nice though....

There are a number of launches on Long Island and New Jersey - all
between one and 2hours from Manhattan. iWindsurf.com is a great
reference for newcomers to the area, although their forecast has to be
interpreted with a few grains of salt.

There are no rental outfits on the beach that I know of, so you'll have
to get your own gear which then needs to be stored and transported to
the beach. I kept my stuff in a 300 suare foot apartment for a while,
jamming it all into the elevator, which - my luck - was rarely
operational on windy days...

LeeD is right - you're going to need your own gear and a car in
addition to equipment storage. I keep my gear in the car for weeks at a
time during the windy season in the fall and winter. An old station
wagon may solve both the transport and storage issue - you'll just have
to figure out the parking in your area (or add $150 - $450/month to
your budget and get a garage space).

Regarding gear choices: there is wind in the summer and there are a few
spots that can benefit from thermal winds which, if the general weather
pattern supports the thermals, can blow 15kts+. If you're into
flatwater and freestyle and want to sail in the summer only, I'd get a
5.5 and a 6.5 sail and a freestyle board. The launch with the most
reliable wind during the summer which also works with that kind of gear
is Hecksher State Park - an hour outside the city on Long Island. Check
out the graphs for the Great South Bay on iwindsurf.com.

During the fall and winter months, the area offers much more exciting
sailing in different locations. Email me directly for more info and
hookup with some locals.

florian