25 Feb 2005 10:03:55
Clark Robbins
Mistral Equipe II, "XR" version versus Mistral Pan-Am (late 1990's- early 2000s)

Does anybody out there happen to know if the Mistral Equipe II,
lightweight "XR" version, is the same as the Mistral Pan-Am (availale
in late 1990's- early 2000s)?

Clark.


25 Feb 2005 15:04:28
Dan Weiss
Re: Mistral Equipe II, "XR" version versus Mistral Pan-Am (late 1990's- early 2000s)

I'm pretty sure the Pan Am was significantly higher in volume and better
upwind in light conditions. That Pan-Am was a very hard board to find in
the States.

The Equipe II XR is a great board and didn't give up much to either the big
blue AHD or the F2 race board except upwind in light air. Equipped with a
big carbon blade and top level fin, the XR performed really well, and it
always was fast downwind with enough power and a good fin.

So, even if you can't find the Pan Am at the right price, you should be
happy with the XR.

-Dan
"Clark Robbins" <clarkr2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:b64fa168.0502251003.517bf450@posting.google.com...
> Does anybody out there happen to know if the Mistral Equipe II,
> lightweight "XR" version, is the same as the Mistral Pan-Am (availale
> in late 1990's- early 2000s)?
>
> Clark.




03 Mar 2005 12:27:34
Clark Robbins
Re: Mistral Equipe II, "XR" version versus Mistral Pan-Am (late 1990's- early 2000s)

Hello Dan;

Thanks for your reply re the Mistral Pan-Am. It's fortunate that you
have so much info on the Equipes as this is often hard to come by.

I'm looking for the fastest board upwind in 2 to 10 knots. Thought
that the Equipe II was just the ticket for this, but will reconsider,
following your comments on the relative upwind capabilities of it
versus the big blue AHD and the big F2. (do you know anything about
the Fanatic Megacat in this respect?)

Regards,
Clark

"Dan Weiss" <dwus484@comcast.net > wrote in message news:<zaWdnd5uUtMhGYLfRVn-qA@comcast.com>...
> I'm pretty sure the Pan Am was significantly higher in volume and better
> upwind in light conditions. That Pan-Am was a very hard board to find in
> the States.
>
> The Equipe II XR is a great board and didn't give up much to either the big
> blue AHD or the F2 race board except upwind in light air. Equipped with a
> big carbon blade and top level fin, the XR performed really well, and it
> always was fast downwind with enough power and a good fin.
>
> So, even if you can't find the Pan Am at the right price, you should be
> happy with the XR.
>
> -Dan
> "Clark Robbins" <clarkr2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b64fa168.0502251003.517bf450@posting.google.com...
> > Does anybody out there happen to know if the Mistral Equipe II,
> > lightweight "XR" version, is the same as the Mistral Pan-Am (availale
> > in late 1990's- early 2000s)?
> >
> > Clark.


03 Mar 2005 17:56:59
Dan Weiss
Re: Mistral Equipe II, "XR" version versus Mistral Pan-Am (late 1990's- early 2000s)

Hi Clark: I really like the Equipe II XR. It's very easy to sail fast, and
is a ball off the wind. That said, the AHD and F2 are especially potent in
lighter air at the tough angles. I believe the F2 has the reputation for
better upwind performance in the lightest stuff compared to the AHD, but I'm
pretty sure the AHD dominates downwind. I've raced against a Megacat with
the Equipe II XR only once. Given that I am a smaller sailor, I was very
impressed with my ability to hang upwind with the larger and taller sailor
on his Megacat upwind when powered up. That should not have been the case
had the equipment been equal. We both had stock centerboards, I used a very
fast fin, and I don't think his was as fast and that might have made the
difference. (Just another reason to get great fins!)

Depending on where you are, you might consider contacting Richard Greene on
Maui to see whether he has any older course boards he might let go for a
song. His race boards are the best IMHO, bar none. Well, certainly better
than anything ever made from a mold.

That said, I'd pick the production boards in the following order, all things
equal: AHD (circa 1999), F2 (the huge sandwich one with "wingers" and wood
centerboard) followed by the Equipe II XR.

-Dan


"Clark Robbins" <clarkr2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:b64fa168.0503031227.522e016@posting.google.com...
> Hello Dan;
>
> Thanks for your reply re the Mistral Pan-Am. It's fortunate that you
> have so much info on the Equipes as this is often hard to come by.
>
> I'm looking for the fastest board upwind in 2 to 10 knots. Thought
> that the Equipe II was just the ticket for this, but will reconsider,
> following your comments on the relative upwind capabilities of it
> versus the big blue AHD and the big F2. (do you know anything about
> the Fanatic Megacat in this respect?)
>
> Regards,
> Clark
>
> "Dan Weiss" <dwus484@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:<zaWdnd5uUtMhGYLfRVn-qA@comcast.com>...
>> I'm pretty sure the Pan Am was significantly higher in volume and better
>> upwind in light conditions. That Pan-Am was a very hard board to find in
>> the States.
>>
>> The Equipe II XR is a great board and didn't give up much to either the
>> big
>> blue AHD or the F2 race board except upwind in light air. Equipped with
>> a
>> big carbon blade and top level fin, the XR performed really well, and it
>> always was fast downwind with enough power and a good fin.
>>
>> So, even if you can't find the Pan Am at the right price, you should be
>> happy with the XR.
>>
>> -Dan
>> "Clark Robbins" <clarkr2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:b64fa168.0502251003.517bf450@posting.google.com...
>> > Does anybody out there happen to know if the Mistral Equipe II,
>> > lightweight "XR" version, is the same as the Mistral Pan-Am (availale
>> > in late 1990's- early 2000s)?
>> >
>> > Clark.