28 Jul 2004 19:35:53
Von Fourche
The Padi "Lifestyle"



I've noticed in the Padi Sport Diver magazines that I have bought the
last five or so months that a lot of the content, I would say a fourth of
every magazine, is about what happens on top of the water - parties,
drinking, eating, more partying, etc... at the resorts people stay in. Then
I pick up a Padi Dive Traveler brochure, about 51 pages long, showing where
you can dive with Padi around the world.

What struck me about this brochure is the fact that a number of women
are in two piece bathing suites, looking very pretty and I suppose sexy,
with their nipple poking thru their wet tops. One of my Sport Diver
magazines has an article about a wet t-shirt contest at night, and a wet
boxer contest for men. This magazine has also shown pics of people partying
down on the beach at night, with drinks in their hands, looking a little
drunk.

I have another brochure to sign up with the Padi Diving Society for
$29.00 Here is something I found funny in it - "Access to member-only
events and socials hosted by PADI DIVE CENTERS AND RESORTS. Mix and mingle
with fellow divers, participate in a variety of fun activities and
experience the ultimate lifestyle firsthand."

I get the overall impression that Padi sounds more like Club Med or some
swingers group with their "ultimate lifestyle" than actually an organization
interested in diving.

Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this? I find Dive
Training magazine more focused on actual diving, not diving and partying. I
really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get the
felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual sport
divers. I don't want to dive to join a "lifestyle" and look for hot women
to bang at night like some college freshman on spring break. I want to dive
to explore the underwater world that makes up so much of this Earth.





28 Jul 2004 22:35:52
NE333RO
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

> I
>really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get the
>felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual sport
>divers.

Well, their training sucks so they have to offer something.................
:o)


29 Jul 2004 01:04:30
HLAviation
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:teTNc.1387$9Y6.128@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>
> I've noticed in the Padi Sport Diver magazines that I have bought the
> last five or so months that a lot of the content, I would say a fourth of
> every magazine, is about what happens on top of the water - parties,
> drinking, eating, more partying, etc... at the resorts people stay in.
Then
> I pick up a Padi Dive Traveler brochure, about 51 pages long, showing
where
> you can dive with Padi around the world.
>
> What struck me about this brochure is the fact that a number of women
> are in two piece bathing suites, looking very pretty and I suppose sexy,
> with their nipple poking thru their wet tops. One of my Sport Diver
> magazines has an article about a wet t-shirt contest at night, and a wet
> boxer contest for men. This magazine has also shown pics of people
partying
> down on the beach at night, with drinks in their hands, looking a little
> drunk.
>
> I have another brochure to sign up with the Padi Diving Society for
> $29.00 Here is something I found funny in it - "Access to member-only
> events and socials hosted by PADI DIVE CENTERS AND RESORTS. Mix and
mingle
> with fellow divers, participate in a variety of fun activities and
> experience the ultimate lifestyle firsthand."
>
> I get the overall impression that Padi sounds more like Club Med or
some
> swingers group with their "ultimate lifestyle" than actually an
organization
> interested in diving.
>
> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this? I find
Dive
> Training magazine more focused on actual diving, not diving and partying.
I
> really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get
the
> felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual
sport
> divers. I don't want to dive to join a "lifestyle" and look for hot women
> to bang at night like some college freshman on spring break. I want to
dive
> to explore the underwater world that makes up so much of this Earth.

WOOO HOOO Did you just open a can of worms!
Let the flames begin!




29 Jul 2004 01:31:18
mike gray
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

Von Fourche wrote:
> I've noticed in the Padi Sport Diver magazines that I have bought the
> last five or so months that a lot of the content, I would say a fourth of
> every magazine, is about what happens on top of the water - parties,
> drinking, eating, more partying, etc... at the resorts people stay in. Then
> I pick up a Padi Dive Traveler brochure, about 51 pages long, showing where
> you can dive with Padi around the world.
>
> What struck me about this brochure is the fact that a number of women
> are in two piece bathing suites, looking very pretty and I suppose sexy,
> with their nipple poking thru their wet tops. One of my Sport Diver
> magazines has an article about a wet t-shirt contest at night, and a wet
> boxer contest for men. This magazine has also shown pics of people partying
> down on the beach at night, with drinks in their hands, looking a little
> drunk.
>
> I have another brochure to sign up with the Padi Diving Society for
> $29.00 Here is something I found funny in it - "Access to member-only
> events and socials hosted by PADI DIVE CENTERS AND RESORTS. Mix and mingle
> with fellow divers, participate in a variety of fun activities and
> experience the ultimate lifestyle firsthand."
>
> I get the overall impression that Padi sounds more like Club Med or some
> swingers group with their "ultimate lifestyle" than actually an organization
> interested in diving.
>
> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this? I find Dive
> Training magazine more focused on actual diving, not diving and partying. I
> really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get the
> felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual sport
> divers. I don't want to dive to join a "lifestyle" and look for hot women
> to bang at night like some college freshman on spring break. I want to dive
> to explore the underwater world that makes up so much of this Earth.

Hurry up and get certified.

I'm looking forward to diving with ya.



29 Jul 2004 02:43:13
Brian Nadwidny
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

Von Fourche wrote:
>
> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this?

Nobody here noticed it because for the most part we learned a long time
ago to ignore anything that comes from, or has anything to do with PADI.

Since you're new here's a suggestion: I suggest you do the same.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscuba.com


29 Jul 2004 03:28:42
Chris
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:teTNc.1387$9Y6.128@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> I get the overall impression that Padi sounds more like Club Med or
some
> swingers group with their "ultimate lifestyle" than actually an
organization
> interested in diving.

Now I dare anyone to criticize PADI for that!

Seriously, diving and vacations ARE supposed to be fun. Free us from our
real lives and who among us doesn't wish that our vacations were like that?




28 Jul 2004 20:49:14
Rich Lockyer
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:35:53 GMT, "Von Fourche"
<monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote:

> I get the overall impression that Padi sounds more like Club Med or some
>swingers group with their "ultimate lifestyle" than actually an organization
>interested in diving.
>
> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this?

Nope. You've read it correctly.

PADI hasn't been about dive TRAINING in 20 years.
PADI realizes that, of the thousands of people they sell a
certification to every month, half of them will stop diving within 6
months and never dive again. That's bad for the business at the
resorts and dive centers, so they want to do everything they can to
hold the interest of those who aren't really serious about diving....

... because after all, PADI is not really serious about diving.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/


29 Jul 2004 04:48:05
TonyP
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

Von Fourche wrote:

> I've noticed in the Padi Sport Diver magazines that I have bought the
> last five or so months that a lot of the content, I would say a fourth of
> every magazine, is about what happens on top of the water - parties,
> drinking, eating, more partying, etc... at the resorts people stay in. Then
> I pick up a Padi Dive Traveler brochure, about 51 pages long, showing where
> you can dive with Padi around the world.

Now you know what PADI stands for.. Put Another Dollar In.



29 Jul 2004 13:35:54
Adam Helberg
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:teTNc.1387$9Y6.128@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>
> I've noticed in the Padi Sport Diver magazines that I have bought the
> last five or so months that a lot of the content, I would say a fourth of
> every magazine, is about what happens on top of the water - parties,
> drinking, eating, more partying, etc... at the resorts people stay in. Then
> I pick up a Padi Dive Traveler brochure, about 51 pages long, showing where
> you can dive with Padi around the world.
>
> What struck me about this brochure is the fact that a number of women
> are in two piece bathing suites, looking very pretty and I suppose sexy,
> with their nipple poking thru their wet tops. One of my Sport Diver
> magazines has an article about a wet t-shirt contest at night, and a wet
> boxer contest for men. This magazine has also shown pics of people partying
> down on the beach at night, with drinks in their hands, looking a little
> drunk.
>
> I have another brochure to sign up with the Padi Diving Society for
> $29.00 Here is something I found funny in it - "Access to member-only
> events and socials hosted by PADI DIVE CENTERS AND RESORTS. Mix and mingle
> with fellow divers, participate in a variety of fun activities and
> experience the ultimate lifestyle firsthand."

Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that corporations like PADI
and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to attract recruits.

Adam




29 Jul 2004 13:59:05
greatviz
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"



Adam Helberg wrote:

>
> Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that corporations like PADI
> and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to attract recruits.
>
> Adam
>
>
I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.



29 Jul 2004 13:49:21
greatviz
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"



Von Fourche wrote:


> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this? I find Dive
> Training magazine more focused on actual diving, not diving and partying. I
> really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get the
> felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual sport
> divers. I don't want to dive to join a "lifestyle" and look for hot women
> to bang at night like some college freshman on spring break. I want to dive
> to explore the underwater world that makes up so much of this Earth.

I don't know about the rest of you, but the bulk (ha) of divers I've
shared a boat with do not fit that party profile at all.
>
>
>



29 Jul 2004 09:35:20
ben bradlee
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net > wrote in message
news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
>
>
> Adam Helberg wrote:
>
> >
> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that
corporations like PADI
> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to
attract recruits.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.

Adam learned scuba while in the young offenders program, California Youth
Authority. There were no women and all the young men were between the age
of 16 and 21. He's never actually been diving. When he gets out he will
either wait and dive with his yet-to-be-released buddies or see a bunch of
middle aged divers to dive with.

Sorry, I thought it was funny.




29 Jul 2004 15:16:13
mike gray
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

Adam Helberg wrote:

> Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that corporations like PADI
> and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to attract recruits.

Divers are mostly young, but here in SoFla the M/F ratio is at most 60/40.



29 Jul 2004 16:50:02
Dillon Pyron
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:21 GMT, greatviz
<greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net > wrote:

>
>
>Von Fourche wrote:
>
>
>> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this? I find Dive
>> Training magazine more focused on actual diving, not diving and partying. I
>> really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get the
>> felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual sport
>> divers. I don't want to dive to join a "lifestyle" and look for hot women
>> to bang at night like some college freshman on spring break. I want to dive
>> to explore the underwater world that makes up so much of this Earth.
>
>I don't know about the rest of you, but the bulk (ha) of divers I've
>shared a boat with do not fit that party profile at all.

Agreed. The average profile of divers I head out with is quite a bit
different than the "party hardy" group.

--
dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.


29 Jul 2004 16:55:04
Chris Guynn
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:teTNc.1387$9Y6.128@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
<snip >

>
> Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this? I find
Dive
> Training magazine more focused on actual diving, not diving and partying.
I
> really have nothing against the party articles in Sport Diver, but I get
the
> felling Padi is presenting itself as more of a night club than actual
sport
> divers. I don't want to dive to join a "lifestyle" and look for hot women
> to bang at night like some college freshman on spring break. I want to
dive
> to explore the underwater world that makes up so much of this Earth.
>

Recently, I had a subscription to dive training. Currently, I have a
subscription to Sport Diver. I hadn't really noticed what you point out
before now, but I'd agree. I'm not looking for "hot women to bang at night"
(i've already got one), but I don't mind the view anyway. :-)




29 Jul 2004 17:27:28
HLAviation
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Brian Nadwidny" <nadwidny@excite.com > wrote in message
news:410863E9.BABE3E4E@excite.com...
> Von Fourche wrote:
> >
> > Am I way off base here? Or has anybody else noticed this?
>
> Nobody here noticed it because for the most part we learned a long time
> ago to ignore anything that comes from, or has anything to do with PADI.
>
> Since you're new here's a suggestion: I suggest you do the same.
>
> Brian
> Edmonton, Alberta
> www.mossmanscuba.com

I still don't get the attitude. PADI has done more to expand the dive market
share of recreational dollars than any other group in the sector. They
turned it from the "He Man" macho hard core image to a relaxing fun
recreational activity that anyone can enjoy. This in turn promotes more
manufacturers to make better equipment, and more operators to provide
services in more areas. That benefits us all. Nothing wrong with having fun
on a dive trip.




29 Jul 2004 18:38:12
Brian Nadwidny
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

HLAviation wrote:
>
>
> I still don't get the attitude. PADI has done more to expand the dive market
> share of recreational dollars than any other group in the sector.

The expansion was inevitable. PADI was the driver, just the biggest
passenger.

>They
> turned it from the "He Man" macho hard core image to a relaxing fun
> recreational activity that anyone can enjoy.

As above. If it wasn't PADI then someone else would've done it.

>This in turn promotes more
> manufacturers to make better equipment,

Oh yeah, like the HUB, Spare Air, those crappy little US Divers 2nd
stages, all those little retracting gizmos...

> and more operators to provide
> services in more areas.
>That benefits us all.

Not me.

>Nothing wrong with having fun
> on a dive trip.

Nothing wrong with bashing PADI either.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta


29 Jul 2004 20:17:47
Brian Nadwidny
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

Brian Nadwidny wrote:
>
> The expansion was inevitable. PADI was the driver, just the biggest
> passenger.

(Note to self: read twice, hit send once...read twice, hit send once)

Should've read-PADI was not the driver, just the biggest passenger.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta


29 Jul 2004 20:20:47
Adam Helberg
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net > wrote in message
news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
>
>
> Adam Helberg wrote:
>
> >
> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that corporations like
PADI
> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to attract
recruits.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.

Yes that's what I was referring to. Recruits for professional divers such as DMs and
industrial divers (see ads for Ocean Corp).

Adam




30 Jul 2004 00:09:10
Dillon Pyron
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:20:47 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
<sendspamhere@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net> wrote in message
>news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>>
>> Adam Helberg wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that corporations like
>PADI
>> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to attract
>recruits.
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >
>> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
>> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
>> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.
>
>Yes that's what I was referring to. Recruits for professional divers such as DMs and
>industrial divers (see ads for Ocean Corp).
>
>Adam
>
The one with the hot babes say (essentially) "become a professional
diver and get laid by hot babes"?

--
dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.


30 Jul 2004 01:22:53
HLAviation
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com > wrote in message
news:3b4jg0t3vtp2fecgpt5o7sgn3c9ncha5kc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:20:47 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
> <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam Helberg wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that
corporations like
> >PADI
> >> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to
attract
> >recruits.
> >> >
> >> > Adam
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
> >> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
> >> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.
> >
> >Yes that's what I was referring to. Recruits for professional divers such
as DMs and
> >industrial divers (see ads for Ocean Corp).
> >
> >Adam
> >
> The one with the hot babes say (essentially) "become a professional
> diver and get laid by hot babes"?

My bags are packed I'm leavin home...




30 Jul 2004 17:11:40
Von Fourche
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com > wrote in message
news:3b4jg0t3vtp2fecgpt5o7sgn3c9ncha5kc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:20:47 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
> <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam Helberg wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that
corporations like
> >PADI
> >> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to
attract
> >recruits.
> >> >
> >> > Adam
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
> >> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
> >> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.
> >
> >Yes that's what I was referring to. Recruits for professional divers such
as DMs and
> >industrial divers (see ads for Ocean Corp).
> >
> >Adam
> >
> The one with the hot babes say (essentially) "become a professional
> diver and get laid by hot babes"?


Those adds have caught my eye before. What kind of job do they want to
train you for? Or is it mostly a scam, pay thousands of dollars to be
trained for some industrial diving job that there is no need for?






31 Jul 2004 02:00:04
Adam Helberg
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:gjvOc.3340$9Y6.986@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3b4jg0t3vtp2fecgpt5o7sgn3c9ncha5kc@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:20:47 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
> > <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Adam Helberg wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that
> corporations like
> > >PADI
> > >> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to
> attract
> > >recruits.
> > >> >
> > >> > Adam
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
> > >> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
> > >> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.
> > >
> > >Yes that's what I was referring to. Recruits for professional divers such
> as DMs and
> > >industrial divers (see ads for Ocean Corp).
> > >
> > >Adam
> > >
> > The one with the hot babes say (essentially) "become a professional
> > diver and get laid by hot babes"?
>
>
> Those adds have caught my eye before. What kind of job do they want to
> train you for? Or is it mostly a scam, pay thousands of dollars to be
> trained for some industrial diving job that there is no need for?

Just because they use sexual ads does not make it a scam. But I doubt being a
commercial diver will help you get chicks. You'll probably end up cleaning and
welding storage tanks.

Adam




04 Aug 2004 09:42:10
Clint
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"

Even though NAUI probably has the more in depth training programs, PADI must
be doing something right if they have the bulk of the market share with all
the dive shops.

Clint

Free Spirit Gallery
http://www.FreeSpiritGallery.ca
Exquisite Inuit (Eskimo) & Native American Art




06 Aug 2004 16:12:25
Dave L
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:teTNc.1387$9Y6.128@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>
> What struck me about this brochure is the fact that a number of women
> are in two piece bathing suites, looking very pretty and I suppose sexy,
> with their nipple poking thru their wet tops. One of my Sport Diver
> magazines has an article about a wet t-shirt contest

All this stuff is completely superfluous to diving and should hold no
interest to an avid student such as yerself.
Send the literature to me immediately.

Dave.




09 Aug 2004 15:02:09
Dave L
Re: The Padi "Lifestyle"


"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com > wrote in message
news:3b4jg0t3vtp2fecgpt5o7sgn3c9ncha5kc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:20:47 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
> <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"greatviz" <greatviz@netscapeNOTSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >news:Jo7Oc.5114$jd.637776@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam Helberg wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Scuba divers are mostly young males, so it's no surprise that
corporations like
> >PADI
> >> > and various professional diving schools use sexual advertising to
attract
> >recruits.
> >> >
> >> > Adam
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I believe they want to attract young males. The DMs are usually young.
> >> But, the majority of divers I've vacationed with are probably in the
> >> 35 to 55 yr. old age bracket.
> >
> >Yes that's what I was referring to. Recruits for professional divers such
as DMs and
> >industrial divers (see ads for Ocean Corp).
> >
> >Adam
> >
> The one with the hot babes say (essentially) "become a professional
> diver and get laid by hot babes"?
>

Where do I sign?

Dave.