14 Aug 2003 01:34:35
Diver Rick
Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

Anyone familiar with these products? I am looking at the Samsung Digimax V4
digital camera and their SPH-V3/V4
Underwater Housing.

I do a lot of diving, both in Ontario and the Caribbean, and its time to go
digital! Any info/advice would be appreciated.

< > Rick <>
(or reply off line: bumper308@<remove_this >hotmail.com )




14 Aug 2003 11:51:29
Dan Nafe
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing


I've had excellent results with my Under Sea Video Housing and a Cannon
ZR-10.


In article <%eF_a.8661$Z03.654971@news20.bellglobal.com >,
"Diver Rick" <bumper308@nospam_hotmail.com > wrote:

> Anyone familiar with these products? I am looking at the Samsung Digimax V4
> digital camera and their SPH-V3/V4
> Underwater Housing.
>
> I do a lot of diving, both in Ontario and the Caribbean, and its time to go
> digital! Any info/advice would be appreciated.
>
> <> Rick <>
> (or reply off line: bumper308@<remove_this>hotmail.com )
>
>



14 Aug 2003 19:12:03
Jason O'Rourke
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

Diver Rick <bumper308@nospam_hotmail.com > wrote:
>Anyone familiar with these products? I am looking at the Samsung Digimax V4
>digital camera and their SPH-V3/V4
>Underwater Housing.

Why use them rather than Canon or Olympus? Both are established camera
makers and have been putting out housings for them for years.

--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com


14 Aug 2003 22:48:45
Paul Smith
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

Why wouldn't you use it?

- It's got a double O ring housing, good to 70m - OK, you may not be going
to 70m but it's nice to have the safety margin regardless.
- It uses the same clone electronics that the majority of manufacturers use,
the major differentiator in quality being the lens - and Samsung have bought
in one from Schneider.
- It's got some excellent reviews.
- Where I come from, it's about 50% cheaper than the equivalent 'major name'
equipment.

Fair reasons to take a look?


"Jason O'Rourke" <jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu > wrote in message
news:bhgmu3$13jd$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> Diver Rick <bumper308@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Anyone familiar with these products? I am looking at the Samsung Digimax
V4
> >digital camera and their SPH-V3/V4
> >Underwater Housing.
>
> Why use them rather than Canon or Olympus? Both are established camera
> makers and have been putting out housings for them for years.
>
> --
> Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com




15 Aug 2003 00:54:54
Paul Smith
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

"Where I come from" happens to be the UK! The V4 + housing tends to be
around 125GBP (about $200) less than the S45 & housing (which is only rated
to 30m)

I have to agree with your comments about Canon & Olympus - they are both
safe bets, but I'm not going to ignore the V4 until I've tried it (unlike
the Sony DSC which I borrowed! Ugh! Press the shutter, wait, wait some more,
keep waiting, subject swims away, do a bit more waiting, flash!)

"Jason O'Rourke" <jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu > wrote in message
news:bhh2cb$1bqj$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> Paul Smith <sendmejunk101@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Why wouldn't you use it?
> >
> >- It's got a double O ring housing, good to 70m - OK, you may not be
going
> >to 70m but it's nice to have the safety margin regardless.
> >- It uses the same clone electronics that the majority of manufacturers
use,
> >the major differentiator in quality being the lens - and Samsung have
bought
> >in one from Schneider.
> >- It's got some excellent reviews.
> >- Where I come from, it's about 50% cheaper than the equivalent 'major
name'
> >equipment.
>
> What pricing is it? Short look showed the V4 at $369 and $460, which is
> about the same as the S400 or the S45. Tad cheaper perhaps. Canon's
> housing to 130' runs a bit under $200.
>
> Samsung has proven to be a solid player, but they aren't a camera maker,
> and I don't think I've ever seen their UW housings in use. So I'd
> need a compelling reason to use them instead of what I have (S400+DC800)
> or Olympus and their PT series housings.
> --
> Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com




16 Aug 2003 16:24:03
Phil
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:54:54 +0100, "Paul Smith"
<sendmejunk101@hotmail.com > wrote:

> but I'm not going to ignore the V4 until I've tried it
Ditto!

The Samsung Digimax 4 has an impressive specification and appears to
be excellent value for money. I have read several reviews of this
camera, 2 of which criticised its definition.

The first was in PC-Pro (British) - 'Image quality was not incredible
and the auto white balance left a greenish cast in our indoor shot
without flash and a blue cast when using flash. [paraphrased]:The
auto-focus was not as we'd hoped'

PCWorld (US) stated:
'...but our cropped and magnified shot looked a little fuzzy, and a
shot taken with the flash looked dark. A couple of other shots looked
flat. We're fairly sure that's a true representation of what the
camera can do; we tried three earlier samples of the Digimax V4, all
of which had egregious* color problems. Samsung says it mistakenly
sent us preproduction units on the first two occasions and a
malfunctioning unit the third time around.
[* according to my dictionary this means: 'conspicuously bad or
offensive or reprehensible' why could the reviewer use a simple word
like 'undesirable'?]

.....but some similarly priced cameras take better pictures.'

Other reviews were more favourable.

Comments from Digimax 4 users on this group would be welcomed.


16 Aug 2003 11:28:16
This is your Mother speaking !
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

In other words, a piece of crap.

"Phil" <Phil_Anderer@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1egsjv86m5qt02o4hiv5g4gf3id6a1mti8@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:54:54 +0100, "Paul Smith"
> <sendmejunk101@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > but I'm not going to ignore the V4 until I've tried it
> Ditto!
>
> The Samsung Digimax 4 has an impressive specification and appears to
> be excellent value for money. I have read several reviews of this
> camera, 2 of which criticised its definition.
>
> The first was in PC-Pro (British) - 'Image quality was not incredible
> and the auto white balance left a greenish cast in our indoor shot
> without flash and a blue cast when using flash. [paraphrased]:The
> auto-focus was not as we'd hoped'
>
> PCWorld (US) stated:
> '...but our cropped and magnified shot looked a little fuzzy, and a
> shot taken with the flash looked dark. A couple of other shots looked
> flat. We're fairly sure that's a true representation of what the
> camera can do; we tried three earlier samples of the Digimax V4, all
> of which had egregious* color problems. Samsung says it mistakenly
> sent us preproduction units on the first two occasions and a
> malfunctioning unit the third time around.
> [* according to my dictionary this means: 'conspicuously bad or
> offensive or reprehensible' why could the reviewer use a simple word
> like 'undesirable'?]
>
> .....but some similarly priced cameras take better pictures.'
>
> Other reviews were more favourable.
>
> Comments from Digimax 4 users on this group would be welcomed.




17 Aug 2003 09:18:14
Phil
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:28:16 -0400, "This is your Mother speaking !"
<bogus@email.com > wrote:

>In other words, a piece of crap.
Not necessarily. The cameras used for the tests could have been pre
general release. Many manufacturers of many kinds of hardware fall
into this trap.

Phil


17 Aug 2003 22:48:25
Gerry H
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing


"Phil" <Phil_Anderer@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:rocujvs0bmr1ul1fh8sq05110ounpmmpvk@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:28:16 -0400, "This is your Mother speaking !"
> <bogus@email.com> wrote:
>
> >In other words, a piece of crap.
> Not necessarily. The cameras used for the tests could have been pre
> general release. Many manufacturers of many kinds of hardware fall
> into this trap.
>
> Phil

I've got the V4 and I'm perfectly happy with it. First digital so nothing to
compare it with directly but quality of pictures have been very good so far.
I've had a couple of indoor flash shots in natural light where there's been
a bluish cast but easily fixed by runnung through Levels on Photoshop
Elements.

The pictures are a bit softer than some straight out of the camera (using
the standard sharpness setting) but I prefer them like that. I've sharpened
some in software but left others as they are.

If you haven't already seen them, there are good reviews on Steve's
Digicams, Megapixel and ePhotoZine.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/digimax_v4.html

http://www.megapixel.net/cgi-bin/fs_loader.pl?p=http%3A//www.megapixel.net/r
eviews/samsung-v4/v4-review.html

http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=181


Gerry




18 Aug 2003 09:28:18
Phil
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:48:25 +0100, "Gerry H"
<gerryhughes@removetheobvious.blueyonder.co.uk > wrote:

>I've got the V4 and I'm perfectly happy with it.
>..........
[clipped]
Many thanks, Gerry, for these interesting comments.

Phil


18 Aug 2003 10:38:10
Phil
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:48:25 +0100, "Gerry H"
<gerryhughes@removetheobvious.blueyonder.co.uk > wrote:

>http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/digimax_v4.html
>
>http://www.megapixel.net/cgi-bin/fs_loader.pl?p=http%3A//www.megapixel.net/r
>eviews/samsung-v4/v4-review.html
>
>http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=181

Gerry,

Now that I have looked at these, you are due another 'thank you'!
Steves-digicam I knew but not the other two. Ephotozine is
particularly helpful.

Phil


18 Aug 2003 14:57:19
Gerry H
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing


"Phil" <Phil_Anderer@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:ef71kvocbrm6915824hu0c1jpo5v3lr4o2@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:48:25 +0100, "Gerry H"
> <gerryhughes@removetheobvious.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/digimax_v4.html
> >
>
>http://www.megapixel.net/cgi-bin/fs_loader.pl?p=http%3A//www.megapixel.net/
r
> >eviews/samsung-v4/v4-review.html
> >
> >http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=181
>
> Gerry,
>
> Now that I have looked at these, you are due another 'thank you'!
> Steves-digicam I knew but not the other two. Ephotozine is
> particularly helpful.
>
> Phil

Glad to be of some help Phil.

Gerry




29 Jun 2004 17:50:25
tylerz
Re: Samsung Digimax V4 and SPH-V3/V4 Underwater Housing


I am sorry I missed this thread, since I have a lot of experience with
this camera, since last September.

Visit my web site if you wish to see the practical application of this
camera. All shots done using the V4 in the SPH-V4/V3 housing and while
freediving.

http://quietdeep.com

Obviously, if I thought the images were crap, I probably wouldn't have
built a web page showcasing them. Remember that not all the picture I
put up are to demonstrate the camera's abilities. Many of them are
solely to share what I am seeing while below. But have a look and let me
know what you think.

Cheers


--
tylerz

Tyler Zetterstrom
BC, Canada
http://quietdeep.com
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