05 Mar 2004 02:09:17
KL333
Looking for boat recommendations


I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
conditions:
- max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
- used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
- built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
enough to protect against small waves
- preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
- a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
equipment
- has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
to many different locations frequently
- occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
single person
- it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
installing some overhead bug screen



05 Mar 2004 16:13:22
rnf2
Re: Looking for boat recommendations


"KL333" <KL333@noname1.com > wrote in message
news:4047dc4e.247816781@news-server.cfl.rr.com...
>
> I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
> conditions:
> - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
> - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
> hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
> - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
> and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
> enough to protect against small waves
> - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
> more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
> boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
> - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
> equipment
> - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
> to many different locations frequently
> - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
> single person
> - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
> removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
> installing some overhead bug screen
>

go see a boat builder and have one made to specs...




05 Mar 2004 03:19:16
KL333
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:13:22 +1300, "rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz >
wrote:

>
>"KL333" <KL333@noname1.com> wrote in message
>news:4047dc4e.247816781@news-server.cfl.rr.com...
>>
>> I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
>> conditions:
>> - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
>> - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
>> hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
>> - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
>> and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
>> enough to protect against small waves
>> - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
>> more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
>> boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
>> - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
>> equipment
>> - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
>> to many different locations frequently
>> - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
>> single person
>> - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
>> removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
>> installing some overhead bug screen
>>
>
>go see a boat builder and have one made to specs...
>

The problem is that the boat would be *new* and *custom-made*
and these would demand a nice extra premium to pay. I am hoping
for an exisitng boat model. After all the requirements are not that
unusual. With so many different boat models on the market
it should not be difficult to find at least a dozen models that
meet the reqs and then find a used one.



04 Mar 2004 19:22:42
Alan Street
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

In article <4047dc4e.247816781@news-server.cfl.rr.com >, KL333
<KL333@noname1.com > wrote:

#I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
#conditions:
# - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
# - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
# hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
# - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
# and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
# enough to protect against small waves
# - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
# more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
# boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
# - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
# equipment
# - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
# to many different locations frequently
# - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
#single person
# - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
# removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
# installing some overhead bug screen
#

What's your budget?


05 Mar 2004 03:31:06
KL333
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:22:42 -0800, Alan Street <alan@nonono_irsi.com >
wrote:

>In article <4047dc4e.247816781@news-server.cfl.rr.com>, KL333
><KL333@noname1.com> wrote:
>
>#I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
>#conditions:
># - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
># - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
># hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
># - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
># and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
># enough to protect against small waves
># - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
># more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
># boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
># - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
># equipment
># - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
># to many different locations frequently
># - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
>#single person
># - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
># removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
># installing some overhead bug screen
>#
>
>What's your budget?

My plan is to come up with a set of *existing* boat models that
satisfy the reqs. Then I would look for a used one and then and only
then the price would become a factor. My hope is to spend less than
$30K incl. the trailer.




04 Mar 2004 22:12:54
Crownfield
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333 wrote:
>
> I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
> conditions:


FIRST, you really need to take the USCG small boater course,
or the Power Squadron boating course.


> - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
> - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
> hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
> - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
> and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
> enough to protect against small waves
> - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
> more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
> boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
> - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
> equipment
> - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
> to many different locations frequently
> - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
> single person
> - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
> removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
> installing some overhead bug screen
>


05 Mar 2004 06:30:22
KL333
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:12:54 -0800, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net >
wrote:

>KL333 wrote:
>>
>> I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
>> conditions:
>
>
>FIRST, you really need to take the USCG small boater course,
>or the Power Squadron boating course.
>
>

FIRST, you really need to take the AAQ course or
Answering ***Asked*** Questions.



>> - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
>> - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
>> hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
>> - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
>> and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
>> enough to protect against small waves
>> - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
>> more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
>> boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
>> - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
>> equipment
>> - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
>> to many different locations frequently
>> - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
>> single person
>> - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
>> removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
>> installing some overhead bug screen
>>



05 Mar 2004 04:07:42
Ross Bagley
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333@noname1.com (KL333) writes:

> FIRST, you really need to take the AAQ course or
> Answering ***Asked*** Questions.

Well, to be fair, your post did make it appear that you didn't know
much about boating. To anyone who's a newbie at owning/piloting a
boat, Bob's advice is very, very, good advice.

Perhaps it just isn't useful advice for you. Any more.

Regards,
Ross

-- Ross Bagley http://rossbagley.com/rba
"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature...
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller


05 Mar 2004 09:17:57
KL333
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

On 05 Mar 2004 04:07:42 -0500, ross@rossbagley.com (Ross Bagley)
wrote:

>KL333@noname1.com (KL333) writes:
>
>> FIRST, you really need to take the AAQ course or
>> Answering ***Asked*** Questions.
>
>Well, to be fair, your post did make it appear that you didn't know
>much about boating. To anyone who's a newbie at owning/piloting a
>boat, Bob's advice is very, very, good advice.
>
>Perhaps it just isn't useful advice for you. Any more.
>

Obviously, you do not have a clue about the boats because you
did not provide any intelligent answer about the boats.
However, you had the time to provide your cute and useless
response. if you know anything then prove it. Otherwise shut up
and get out from my thread. Open your thread and post your
crap there.




05 Mar 2004 14:54:02
Don White
Re: Looking for boat recommendations


KL333 <KL333@noname1.com > wrote in message
news:4048445a.274453062@news-server.cfl.rr.com...
>
> Obviously, you do not have a clue about the boats because you
> did not provide any intelligent answer about the boats.
> However, you had the time to provide your cute and useless
> response. if you know anything then prove it. Otherwise shut up
> and get out from my thread. Open your thread and post your
> crap there.
>

Oh Oh! Just what the world needs...another new powerboater with attitude.




05 Mar 2004 14:56:31
Stephen Weir & Associates
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

I would recommend you look at a Glacier Bay. All the Glacier Bays powerboats
are outboard cats and can come with a cabin. Light enough to put on a
trailer.

The owner of the boat works, Larry Graf does annual adventures with his
Glacier Bay to show how durable they are. He took a 25 footer from Midway to
(I believe) Hawaii. Four years ago he brought along a 23 footer to Nome and
a group of us went from Alaska to Russia with the Glacier Bay and 3 Sea
Doos. Didn't make it to mainland Asia (one of the Sea Doos was damaged on an
ice floe and our translator was arrested by the Russians on Big Diamede
Island) but we did reach a Russian outpost 5 miles off-shore. Glacier Bay
was rock steady, floated in a cup of water and functioned safely in the most
adverse conditions. Only thing is, I don't think $30K will cut it (I am in
Canada so I am not sure how much they cost in the US with US money). The
fibreglas powerboats are made in Seattle


in article 4047f31d.253655484@news-server.cfl.rr.com, KL333 at
KL333@noname1.com wrote on 4/3/04 10:31 pm:

> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:22:42 -0800, Alan Street <alan@nonono_irsi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <4047dc4e.247816781@news-server.cfl.rr.com>, KL333
>> <KL333@noname1.com> wrote:
>>
>> #I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
>> #conditions:
>> # - max about 20 feet (absolute max 25 feet)
>> # - used for scuba diving (underwater photography) and island
>> # hopping, no other major uses (no fishing)
>> # - built to support the use along Florida coast, esp west coast
>> # and the Florida Keys in the south, the sides should be high
>> # enough to protect against small waves
>> # - preferably built-in motor (not the attached-type) to provide
>> # more space in the back, this is not goging to be a race
>> # boat, max 20-30 miles/hour is enough
>> # - a small platform in the back for easy diving and access to
>> # equipment
>> # - has to be easy to trailer because it will be carried on a trailer
>> # to many different locations frequently
>> # - occupancy max 2 people, but it has to be easy to operate even for a
>> #single person
>> # - it should to be designed to sleep 2 people on the deck by easy
>> # removal of the seats to make flat sleeping surface and by
>> # installing some overhead bug screen
>> #
>>
>> What's your budget?
>
> My plan is to come up with a set of *existing* boat models that
> satisfy the reqs. Then I would look for a used one and then and only
> then the price would become a factor. My hope is to spend less than
> $30K incl. the trailer.
>
>



05 Mar 2004 07:23:39
Scott McFadden
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333@noname1.com (KL333) wrote in message news:<4047f31d.253655484@news-server.cfl.rr.com >...

> My hope is to spend less than $30K incl. the trailer.

If I ever suffer another bout of temporary insanity and exhibit
delusional behavior, such as buying another boat, I'll head down to SE
FL and deal with these folks:

http://www.dusky.com/welcome.htm

Factory direct - no dealer markups, and/or screwups, to hassle with.

Check out the 20' FAC.

30K and you're ready to roll w/a new 200 hp ob. (yea I know you asked
about inboard but boating is all about compromises)
--
SJM


05 Mar 2004 17:49:29
Dan Bracuk, CTHD
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333@noname1.com (KL333) pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
: However, you had the time to provide your cute and useless
: response. if you know anything then prove it. Otherwise shut up
: and get out from my thread. Open your thread and post your
: crap there.

Oh look, a public hissy fit. Isn't that cute?

Dan Bracuk
If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure.
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/


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05 Mar 2004 20:47:31
Ross Bagley
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333@noname1.com (KL333) writes:

> On 05 Mar 2004 04:07:42 -0500, ross@rossbagley.com (Ross Bagley)
> wrote:
>
> >KL333@noname1.com (KL333) writes:
> >
> >> FIRST, you really need to take the AAQ course or
> >> Answering ***Asked*** Questions.
> >
> >Well, to be fair, your post did make it appear that you didn't know
> >much about boating. To anyone who's a newbie at owning/piloting a
> >boat, Bob's advice is very, very, good advice.
> >
> >Perhaps it just isn't useful advice for you. Any more.
> >
>
> Obviously, you do not have a clue about the boats because you
> did not provide any intelligent answer about the boats.

Obviously.

(hint: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence)

> However, you had the time to provide your cute and useless
> response.

I thought I'd offer a little assistance in improving your
understanding of the situation. Especially after you threw your first
hissy fit upon receiving perfectly good advice from my friend Bob.

But that second bit of information didn't do you any good either.
So now I'm going to switch strategies to helping you make a grand
fool of yourself. Lucky for me, you make this an easy task.

> if you know anything then prove it.

Why? I'm enjoying this discussion without any proof already. I
don't think that proof would make it any more fun. Where's the
fun in proof? The mistake you're making is to think that I have
the same goals reading and writing to these newsgroups as you do.
I'm here to entertain myself.

In case you want to know, you're doing a great job helping me with my
goals.

> Otherwise shut up and get out from my thread.

You're new here aren't you? Then allow me to welcome you to USENET!
The way I do things here is the way I want to do things here. That
applies to just about everyone on USENET, despite what you may want.

Right now, I'm entertaining myself by posting a message which
emphasizes how juvenile you've made yourself appear, being sure to
point out the really good bits so the other readers of rec.boats and
rec.scuba don't miss anything.

> Open your thread and post your crap there.

Nah. I did that yesterday. Today I'm enjoying myself here.

Regards,
Ross

-- Ross Bagley http://rossbagley.com/rba
"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature...
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller


05 Mar 2004 19:21:08
Crownfield
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:12:54 -0800, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >KL333 wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to collect power boat recommendations that satisfy these
> >> conditions:
> >
> >
> >FIRST, you really need to take the USCG small boater course,
> >or the Power Squadron boating course.
> >
> >
>
> FIRST, you really need to take the AAQ course or
> Answering ***Asked*** Questions.

sorry. I knew you were incompetent from the questions,
but I did not realize that you were that dumb.

from your questions it was obvioous that you do not know nearly enough
about boats to be safe.
one of the great rights in the us is that you can go out and buy any
boat you want,
and other people will come and save you. they get paid to do it.

on the water,
you hear the calls for help over and over and over again.

you can come back in a while
and tell us some of the really dumb things you learned the hard way.


05 Mar 2004 19:22:26
Crownfield
Re: Looking for boat recommendations

KL333 wrote:
>
> On 05 Mar 2004 04:07:42 -0500, ross@rossbagley.com (Ross Bagley)
> wrote:
>
> >KL333@noname1.com (KL333) writes:
> >
> >> FIRST, you really need to take the AAQ course or
> >> Answering ***Asked*** Questions.
> >
> >Well, to be fair, your post did make it appear that you didn't know
> >much about boating. To anyone who's a newbie at owning/piloting a
> >boat, Bob's advice is very, very, good advice.
> >
> >Perhaps it just isn't useful advice for you. Any more.
> >
>
> Obviously, you do not have a clue about the boats because you
> did not provide any intelligent answer about the boats.
> However, you had the time to provide your cute and useless
> response. if you know anything then prove it. Otherwise shut up
> and get out from my thread. Open your thread and post your
> crap there.

then go and post in your own private newsgroup.
you post here, you take what you get.

unless you are really clueless.