28 Apr 2006 11:18:09
Badger_s
TUF - ep 3

Dayum, Mr Shamrock is looking worse and worse with each episode. Doesn't he
know he's being filmed? This is his big chance to salvage what's left of
his career and he's watching vids of past glories and ignoring his
fighters. He needs to smack himself around and forget Tito.

Great fight though it was one-sided. I had forgotten my research on the UK
guy (Bisping)

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=10196

...and had picked the other guy, Kristian Rotharmel. Roster:

http://www.mmafighting.com/columns/robinson/tuf3_preview.html

...in my IM chatting with my brother, based on looks and swagger, lol. How
Kristian managed to get on the show I can't figure out, b/c he has no game
in anything if you take this fight as an example. Maybe it was his hair.
After all CBS has a show that's all about the actor's hair.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460644/

Freaky injury that knee. Rolling around in that much of some other guy's
blood is nuts unless it's absolutely necessary. Heck, he coulda just held
his head over Bisping's face and choked Bisping out, LOL.

I think Team Shamrock is toast, basically.

Bisping needs serious work on his ground game and his takedown defense
though otherwise the Hamill will eat him for lunch.

Did -not- appreciate how Hamill is strong-arming and nearly spazzing
hurting his spar mates. I mean it's not folk-dancing, but, sheesh.

The other thing that these guys do not seem to get is that the work you're
doing today is based on what you did three weeks ago (and further back than
that wrt skill). You really can't learn much in the week before the fight.
Running the 'stairs' in the back yard and juking the trees is not helping.
I don't think they're doing any tapering and learning about peaking for the
fight...though it's difficult in such a short show.

Having said that, I don't think any of them have any 'base'...in cycling
you need to have at least 10-14 sessions per week that you need to maintain
and I don't see that here. Nobody's going out for their morning roadwork.
Guess they're relying on past cardio. Burst training in the Octagon is
crucial and at least they're getting that, so maybe it's not so bad
afterall. ;-)

-B



28 Apr 2006 11:26:49
Badger_s
Re: TUF - ep 3

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:18:09 -0400, Badger_s<Badger_s@south.com wrote:

>Running the 'stairs' in the back yard and juking the trees is not helping.
>I don't think they're doing any tapering and learning about peaking for the
>fight...though it's difficult in such a short show.

Forgot to mention. I'd have them reviewing vids on stuff. There's a lot of
good MMA stuff, including fights (for inspiration) and they should be
watching their opponent's fights, and vids related to their specialty as
well as concept vids like Saulo's stuff. They wouldn't have one free moment
during the 10 hour day if I was coaching. (yeah, yeah, lol).

They should basically be so tired that when they get back to the pad they'd
be hitting the sack for 8 hrs then be up at dawn for a group run or ride.
Then you let up and taper them two days before the show.

Top Team has, imo, pretty much nailed how you should be training. (Day of
Zen). It's not Nookular surgery after all. ;-)

And what about the part about getting laid the night before the night of
the fight! Bring in the hookahs! We need more booty on that show...

-B



28 Apr 2006 11:04:12
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Re: TUF - ep 3

<<Dayum, Mr Shamrock is looking worse and worse with each episode.
Doesn't he
know he's being filmed? This is his big chance to salvage what's left
of
his career and he's watching vids of past glories and ignoring his
fighters. He needs to smack himself around and forget Tito. >>

Ken Shamrock? WTF does he know about MMA?

Trav



28 Apr 2006 22:19:27
B.A.K.
Re: TUF - ep 3


"Badger_s" <Badger_s@south.com > wrote in message
news:63b452hdogpnt992kd0144mgb3a146ir11@4ax.com...
> Dayum, Mr Shamrock is looking worse and worse with each episode. Doesn't
he
> know he's being filmed? This is his big chance to salvage what's left of
> his career and he's watching vids of past glories and ignoring his
> fighters. He needs to smack himself around and forget Tito.
>
> Great fight though it was one-sided. I had forgotten my research on the UK
> guy (Bisping)
>
> http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=10196
>
> ...and had picked the other guy, Kristian Rotharmel. Roster:
>
> http://www.mmafighting.com/columns/robinson/tuf3_preview.html
>
> ...in my IM chatting with my brother, based on looks and swagger, lol. How
> Kristian managed to get on the show I can't figure out, b/c he has no game
> in anything if you take this fight as an example. Maybe it was his hair.
> After all CBS has a show that's all about the actor's hair.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460644/
>
> Freaky injury that knee. Rolling around in that much of some other guy's
> blood is nuts unless it's absolutely necessary. Heck, he coulda just held
> his head over Bisping's face and choked Bisping out, LOL.
>
> I think Team Shamrock is toast, basically.
>
> Bisping needs serious work on his ground game and his takedown defense
> though otherwise the Hamill will eat him for lunch.
>
> Did -not- appreciate how Hamill is strong-arming and nearly spazzing
> hurting his spar mates. I mean it's not folk-dancing, but, sheesh.
>
> The other thing that these guys do not seem to get is that the work you're
> doing today is based on what you did three weeks ago (and further back
than
> that wrt skill). You really can't learn much in the week before the fight.
> Running the 'stairs' in the back yard and juking the trees is not helping.
> I don't think they're doing any tapering and learning about peaking for
the
> fight...though it's difficult in such a short show.
>
> Having said that, I don't think any of them have any 'base'...in cycling
> you need to have at least 10-14 sessions per week that you need to
maintain
> and I don't see that here. Nobody's going out for their morning roadwork.
> Guess they're relying on past cardio. Burst training in the Octagon is
> crucial and at least they're getting that, so maybe it's not so bad
> afterall. ;-)
>
> -B
>

Not sure about Kristian either. I've met him and considered training under
him. Went to watch his class and realized that he was subletting the dojo
from a Sensei in traditional JuJitsu who I really wanted to learn from, so I
did that instead.
Here is Kristians web site, just in case you want to have a look.
http://www.nolabjj.com/index.html
Last season Melvin Guillard was on and lost his first fight. That one
totally threw me. I used to train in Maui Thai and JuJitsu at the same gym
as him (not WITH him.....I'm old and slow <g >), and have seen him in several
fights. I thought he would do way better than what he has done in the UFC so
far. But what the hell, at least they are giving it a shot eh?




29 Apr 2006 20:16:47
Fraser Johnston
Re: TUF - ep 3


<travisgod@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1146247452.738669.257520@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> <<Dayum, Mr Shamrock is looking worse and worse with each episode.
> Doesn't he
> know he's being filmed? This is his big chance to salvage what's left
> of
> his career and he's watching vids of past glories and ignoring his
> fighters. He needs to smack himself around and forget Tito. >>
>
> Ken Shamrock? WTF does he know about MMA?

No shit. He's not even a has been. He's a never was.

Fraser




29 Apr 2006 05:48:15
Re: TUF - ep 3


B.A.K. wrote:
> "Badger_s" <Badger_s@south.com> wrote in message
> news:63b452hdogpnt992kd0144mgb3a146ir11@4ax.com...
> > Dayum, Mr Shamrock is looking worse and worse with each episode. Doesn't
> he
> > know he's being filmed? This is his big chance to salvage what's left of
> > his career and he's watching vids of past glories and ignoring his
> > fighters. He needs to smack himself around and forget Tito.
> >
> > Great fight though it was one-sided. I had forgotten my research on the UK
> > guy (Bisping)
> >
> > http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=10196
> >
> > ...and had picked the other guy, Kristian Rotharmel. Roster:
> >
> > http://www.mmafighting.com/columns/robinson/tuf3_preview.html
> >
> > ...in my IM chatting with my brother, based on looks and swagger, lol. How
> > Kristian managed to get on the show I can't figure out, b/c he has no game
> > in anything if you take this fight as an example. Maybe it was his hair.
> > After all CBS has a show that's all about the actor's hair.
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460644/
> >
> > Freaky injury that knee. Rolling around in that much of some other guy's
> > blood is nuts unless it's absolutely necessary. Heck, he coulda just held
> > his head over Bisping's face and choked Bisping out, LOL.
> >
> > I think Team Shamrock is toast, basically.
> >
> > Bisping needs serious work on his ground game and his takedown defense
> > though otherwise the Hamill will eat him for lunch.
> >
> > Did -not- appreciate how Hamill is strong-arming and nearly spazzing
> > hurting his spar mates. I mean it's not folk-dancing, but, sheesh.
> >
> > The other thing that these guys do not seem to get is that the work you're
> > doing today is based on what you did three weeks ago (and further back
> than
> > that wrt skill). You really can't learn much in the week before the fight.
> > Running the 'stairs' in the back yard and juking the trees is not helping.
> > I don't think they're doing any tapering and learning about peaking for
> the
> > fight...though it's difficult in such a short show.
> >
> > Having said that, I don't think any of them have any 'base'...in cycling
> > you need to have at least 10-14 sessions per week that you need to
> maintain
> > and I don't see that here. Nobody's going out for their morning roadwork.
> > Guess they're relying on past cardio. Burst training in the Octagon is
> > crucial and at least they're getting that, so maybe it's not so bad
> > afterall. ;-)
> >
> > -B
> >
>
> Not sure about Kristian either. I've met him and considered training under
> him. Went to watch his class and realized that he was subletting the dojo
> from a Sensei in traditional JuJitsu who I really wanted to learn from, so I
> did that instead.
> Here is Kristians web site, just in case you want to have a look.
> http://www.nolabjj.com/index.html
> Last season Melvin Guillard was on and lost his first fight. That one
> totally threw me. I used to train in Maui Thai and JuJitsu at the same gym
> as him (not WITH him.....I'm old and slow <g>), and have seen him in several
> fights. I thought he would do way better than what he has done in the UFC so
> far. But what the hell, at least they are giving it a shot eh?

Well, you would think that a guy with a 32-3 MMA record would've done
better, eh?

Mike