30 Apr 2004 23:06:46
screedmonkey
SIGMAN IS a usenet cancer

just like every other neocon loser who loves Jerry Fallwell.


30 Apr 2004 23:12:46
aquablue
Re: SIGMAN IS a usenet cancer

Freud was a great man..leave him alone.
"screedmonkey" <screed@chimp.net > wrote in message
news:c6v446$nrn$12@news.f.de.plusline.net...
> just like every other neocon loser who loves Jerry Fallwell.




30 Apr 2004 21:30:18
El Queso
If you're going to insult someone, at least make it funny

screedmonkey wrote:
> just like every other neocon loser who loves Jerry Fallwell.


Whats the matter? Are you not able to actually discuss and argue things
with Mike? If not, what is the point of this? It certainly doesn't do
anything in terms of getting anyone who is currently on the fence to
agree with you. I disagree strongly with many of Mike Sigman's opinions,
but I think you are taking a very stupid approach here. If you're going
to tear apart his points, fine. If you are going to just call names and
make up strawmen to bat at - piss off. There are already enough people
on Usenet doing that, and at least some of them are actually funny while
they do it.
Queso

Just as an aside, has Mike even ever mentioned the name Jerry Fallwell
on RMA??? I've never seen it.


04 May 2004 13:12:35
Steve Perry
Re: If you're going to insult someone, at least make it funny

In article <DBFkc.44780$Qy.28325@fed1read04 >, El Queso
<the_cheese_23nospam@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Whats the matter? Are you not able to actually discuss and argue things
> with Mike? If not, what is the point of this? It certainly doesn't do
> anything in terms of getting anyone who is currently on the fence to
> agree with you. I disagree strongly with many of Mike Sigman's opinions,
> but I think you are taking a very stupid approach here. If you're going
> to tear apart his points, fine. If you are going to just call names and
> make up strawmen to bat at - piss off. There are already enough people
> on Usenet doing that, and at least some of them are actually funny while
> they do it.
> Queso

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, Cheese. Disagree with
Sigman and the first words out of his keyboard are apt to be "You dumb
fuck." First thing he said to me when I brought up the fact that George
Bush is not the brightest bulb on the string -- an opinion shared
publicly by a lot of folks who know and work with him.

Not exactly the acme of enlightened debate, the term "You dumb fuck."
now is it?

Given that he's as quick to call names and set-up straw men as anybody,
you ought not to be standing in Mike's defense on this.

--
Steve


04 May 2004 14:19:00
Mike Sigman
Re: If you're going to insult someone, at least make it funny


"Steve Perry" <perry1966nospam@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:040520041312352240%perry1966nospam@comcast.net...
> In article <DBFkc.44780$Qy.28325@fed1read04>, El Queso
> <the_cheese_23nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Whats the matter? Are you not able to actually discuss and argue things
> > with Mike? If not, what is the point of this? It certainly doesn't do
> > anything in terms of getting anyone who is currently on the fence to
> > agree with you. I disagree strongly with many of Mike Sigman's opinions,
> > but I think you are taking a very stupid approach here. If you're going
> > to tear apart his points, fine. If you are going to just call names and
> > make up strawmen to bat at - piss off. There are already enough people
> > on Usenet doing that, and at least some of them are actually funny while
> > they do it.
> > Queso
>
> Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, Cheese. Disagree with
> Sigman and the first words out of his keyboard are apt to be "You dumb
> fuck." First thing he said to me when I brought up the fact that George
> Bush is not the brightest bulb on the string -- an opinion shared
> publicly by a lot of folks who know and work with him.
>
> Not exactly the acme of enlightened debate, the term "You dumb fuck."
> now is it?
>
> Given that he's as quick to call names and set-up straw men as anybody,
> you ought not to be standing in Mike's defense on this.



It's interesting seeing how petty you really are, Steve.

Mike




04 May 2004 20:29:00
screedmonkey1
Re: If you're going to insult someone, at least make it funny

Mike Sigman wrote:

>
> "Steve Perry" <perry1966nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:040520041312352240%perry1966nospam@comcast.net...
>> In article <DBFkc.44780$Qy.28325@fed1read04>, El Queso
>> <the_cheese_23nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Whats the matter? Are you not able to actually discuss and argue things
>> > with Mike? If not, what is the point of this? It certainly doesn't do
>> > anything in terms of getting anyone who is currently on the fence to
>> > agree with you. I disagree strongly with many of Mike Sigman's
>> > opinions, but I think you are taking a very stupid approach here. If
>> > you're going to tear apart his points, fine. If you are going to just
>> > call names and make up strawmen to bat at - piss off. There are already
>> > enough people on Usenet doing that, and at least some of them are
>> > actually funny while they do it.
>> > Queso
>>
>> Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, Cheese. Disagree with
>> Sigman and the first words out of his keyboard are apt to be "You dumb
>> fuck." First thing he said to me when I brought up the fact that George
>> Bush is not the brightest bulb on the string -- an opinion shared
>> publicly by a lot of folks who know and work with him.
>>
>> Not exactly the acme of enlightened debate, the term "You dumb fuck."
>> now is it?
>>
>> Given that he's as quick to call names and set-up straw men as anybody,
>> you ought not to be standing in Mike's defense on this.
>
>
>
> It's interesting seeing how petty you really are, Steve.
>
> Mike

shame is he's right, ass. Prove him wrong, but wait..... you cant


05 May 2004 07:36:52
mark evins
Re: If you're going to insult someone, at least make it funny

screedmonkey1 <screed1@chimpy.net > wrote in message news:<c79ce1$d7i$2@news.f.de.plusline.net>...
> Mike Sigman wrote:
>
> >
> > "Steve Perry" <perry1966nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:040520041312352240%perry1966nospam@comcast.net...
> >> In article <DBFkc.44780$Qy.28325@fed1read04>, El Queso
> >> <the_cheese_23nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Whats the matter? Are you not able to actually discuss and argue things
> >> > with Mike? If not, what is the point of this? It certainly doesn't do
> >> > anything in terms of getting anyone who is currently on the fence to
> >> > agree with you. I disagree strongly with many of Mike Sigman's
> >> > opinions, but I think you are taking a very stupid approach here. If
> >> > you're going to tear apart his points, fine. If you are going to just
> >> > call names and make up strawmen to bat at - piss off. There are already
> >> > enough people on Usenet doing that, and at least some of them are
> >> > actually funny while they do it.
> >> > Queso
> >>
> >> Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, Cheese. Disagree with
> >> Sigman and the first words out of his keyboard are apt to be "You dumb
> >> fuck." First thing he said to me when I brought up the fact that George
> >> Bush is not the brightest bulb on the string -- an opinion shared
> >> publicly by a lot of folks who know and work with him.
> >>
> >> Not exactly the acme of enlightened debate, the term "You dumb fuck."
> >> now is it?
> >>
> >> Given that he's as quick to call names and set-up straw men as anybody,
> >> you ought not to be standing in Mike's defense on this.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's interesting seeing how petty you really are, Steve.
> >
> > Mike
>
> shame is he's right, ass. Prove him wrong, but wait..... you cant

I don't always agree with Mike, but then I don't always agree with
anybody. Even my wife and I disagree from time to time.
Funny thing is, Mike will generally agree to discuss things in a
respectful manner if he is treated with similar respect.
Unless, of course, he's just having fun baiting someone for whom he
has a low opinion to begin with.
Mostly, tho, Mike will even go so far as to agree to disagree about
something abstract so long as the discussion remains discussion and
personal attacks are left out of it.
There are, tho, some things that he is knowledgeable in that he will
stick to his guns about regardless of how polite the discussion is,
and some of those things he's sometimes willing to get together with
people and compare notes in a friendly exchange of ideas and examples.
In my experience, he's basically a nice guy who's willing to stand up
for himself and his opinions; and this is, supposedly, a martial-arts
newsgroup so a bit of combativeness should be expected from any of us.

For what it's worth......

(wasn't that a Buffalo Springfield song?)


06 May 2004 09:12:46
Steve Perry
Re: If you're going to insult someone, at least make it funny

In article <2cmdnXziCcopZwrdRVn-uw@bresnan.com >, Mike Sigman
<mikesigman@bresnan.net > wrote:

> It's interesting seeing how petty you really are, Steve.
>
> Mike

Well, of course, you'd know all about that -- look up "petty" in the
dictionary, your picture is there ...

--
Steve


11 May 2004 19:36:46
ordosclan
Re: SIGMAN IS a usenet cancer

"aquablue" <lucky200@erols.com > wrote in message news:<409315ae$0$3009$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>...

> Freud was a great man..leave him alone.

Junkie, Pedofile, who know's what else. He said to Reich that he was
a fraud and knew nothing. What are your thoughts on hitler?

ordosclan@mail.hongkong.com


11 May 2004 21:06:04
Mike Sigman
Re: SIGMAN IS a usenet cancer


"ordosclan" <ordosclan@mail.hongkong.com > wrote in message
news:c2876962.0405111836.730e4c06@posting.google.com...
> "aquablue" <lucky200@erols.com> wrote in message
news:<409315ae$0$3009$61fed72c@news.rcn.com >...
>
> > Freud was a great man..leave him alone.
>
> Junkie, Pedofile, who know's what else. He said to Reich that he was
> a fraud and knew nothing. What are your thoughts on hitler?
>
> ordosclan@mail.hongkong.com


All you Troll-guys use drugs, don't you? What's your drug of choice,
Turiyan? Besides your mother's milk, I mean.


Mike




12 May 2004 07:32:24
kalis
Re: SIGMAN IS a usenet cancer

screedmonkey <screed@chimp.net > wrote in message news:<c6v446$nrn$12@news.f.de.plusline.net>...
> just like every other neocon loser who loves Jerry Fallwell.

Naw, Mikey's Ok once you get to know him.
Screedmonkey indeed.<G >

Mike