28 Nov 2007 10:43:20
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

Sean Taylor, probowl safety for the Skins, shot dead in his own home
by an intruder.

He responded to loud noises by retrieving a machete. A lone gunman
entered his bedroom, fired two shots, missing once and striking his
upper leg once, severing the femoral artery. Taylor never regained
consciousness after being airlifted to a trauma center.

I had to hear some stupid mfer yesterday as I was takin a smoke
talking about how he doesn't need a gun in case someone breaks in b/c
he's a tortuous sonofabitch or something.

Yeah...ok, dude. Sean Taylor was a huge, violent black man who was a
professional athlete in a sport that selects for pain tolerance, and
explosive burst, and who was known as one of the harder hitters in the
league. And he had a machete.

People who are anti-gun are suicidal.

Trav


28 Nov 2007 11:05:16
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 1:43 pm, "travis...@aol.cominyrface" <travis...@aol.com >
wrote:
> Sean Taylor, probowl safety for the Skins, shot dead in his own home
> by an intruder.
>
> He responded to loud noises by retrieving a machete. A lone gunman
> entered his bedroom, fired two shots, missing once and striking his
> upper leg once, severing the femoral artery. Taylor never regained
> consciousness after being airlifted to a trauma center.
>
> I had to hear some stupid mfer yesterday as I was takin a smoke
> talking about how he doesn't need a gun in case someone breaks in b/c
> he's a tortuous sonofabitch or something.
>
> Yeah...ok, dude. Sean Taylor was a huge, violent black man who was a
> professional athlete in a sport that selects for pain tolerance, and
> explosive burst, and who was known as one of the harder hitters in the
> league. And he had a machete.
>
> People who are anti-gun are suicidal.
>
> Trav

People who are anti-gun have calculated:

1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;

2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
gun.


--you, having a smoke, lol


28 Nov 2007 11:11:59
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 2:05 pm, LKruv...@gmail.com wrote:
> People who are anti-gun have calculated:

No, they haven't. They have emoted.

> 1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
> higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
> defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;
>
> 2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
> gun.

Oh, so...like...you were there? Or is this like my story or something
b/c, you know, like, i was the one who was actually there listening to
their "reasoning" as to being anti-gun?

>
> --you, having a smoke, lol-

Lung cancer is no laughing mattter

Trav


28 Nov 2007 14:58:47
Mark Goldberg
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

travisgod@aol.cominyrface wrote:
> Sean Taylor, probowl safety for the Skins, shot dead in his own home
> by an intruder.
>
> He responded to loud noises by retrieving a machete. A lone gunman
> entered his bedroom, fired two shots, missing once and striking his
> upper leg once, severing the femoral artery. Taylor never regained
> consciousness after being airlifted to a trauma center.
>
> I had to hear some stupid mfer yesterday as I was takin a smoke
> talking about how he doesn't need a gun in case someone breaks in b/c
> he's a tortuous sonofabitch or something.
>
> Yeah...ok, dude. Sean Taylor was a huge, violent black man who was a
> professional athlete in a sport that selects for pain tolerance, and
> explosive burst, and who was known as one of the harder hitters in the
> league. And he had a machete.
>
> People who are anti-gun are suicidal.
>
> Trav
It is instructive in that having them and not having them is
problematic. But not having them has even more scenarios that are not to
be envied than those that might obtain from having a weapon.

Smoke em' if you got em'

Mark


28 Nov 2007 12:10:02
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


>
> > People who are anti-gun have calculated:
>
> No, they haven't. They have emoted.
>
> > 1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
> > higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
> > defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;
>
> > 2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
> > gun.
>
> Oh, so...like...you were there? Or is this like my story or something
> b/c, you know, like, i was the one who was actually there listening to
> their "reasoning" as to being anti-gun?

So now you're trusting as having insight the expressions of someone
whom you just discounted as able to calculate?

>
> > --you, having a smoke, lol-
>
> Lung cancer is no laughing mattter
>
> Trav

Which is why you weren't having a smoke.



28 Nov 2007 14:05:17
Chas
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

<LKruvant@gmail.com > wrote
>> People who are anti-gun are suicidal.
> People who are anti-gun have calculated:

Yeah, but from spurious basic presumptions.
They're trying to work from the premise that 'all life is sacred', rather
than the presumption that their life is worth more than a man who would
attack them.

> 1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
> higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
> defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;

Yes.
Better they die than breed.

> 2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
> gun.

At the best, it's irrelevant.
Nothing about the scenario is 'fair', so any response is justified.

> --you, having a smoke, lol

If they weren't good for you, the government wouldn't allow them.

Chas




28 Nov 2007 13:09:27
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 3:10 pm, LKruv...@gmail.com wrote:
> So now you're trusting as having insight the expressions of someone
> whom you just discounted as able to calculate?

well, yeah, dumbass!

It's easy to, based upon the TOTALLY illogical things that they say!
Like, dude, if they had an ability to CALCULATE, they'd have arrived
at the OPPOSITE conclusions! One woman said that "9 times out of 10"
your own gun is going to be taken and used on you. THIS is
"calculation"? When people make absurd statements, they are not
sourcing from miscalculation.

> > Lung cancer is no laughing mattter
>
> > Trav
>
> Which is why you weren't having a smoke.

How much would you like to bet on that? There've been changes.

Trav


28 Nov 2007 14:55:17
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 4:09 pm, "travis...@aol.cominyrface" <travis...@aol.com >
wrote:
> On Nov 28, 3:10 pm, LKruv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > So now you're trusting as having insight the expressions of someone
> > whom you just discounted as able to calculate?
>
> well, yeah, dumbass!
>
> It's easy to, based upon the TOTALLY illogical things that they say!
> Like, dude, if they had an ability to CALCULATE, they'd have arrived
> at the OPPOSITE conclusions! One woman said that "9 times out of 10"
> your own gun is going to be taken and used on you. THIS is
> "calculation"? When people make absurd statements, they are not
> sourcing from miscalculation.
>

huh? i meant, "why would you take at face value what someone dumb
says?"

> > > Lung cancer is no laughing mattter
>
> > > Trav
>
> > Which is why you weren't having a smoke.
>
> How much would you like to bet on that? There've been changes.
>

You stopped crossdressing and started smoking?


28 Nov 2007 15:02:51
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 4:05 pm, "Chas" <chascleme...@comcast.net > wrote:
> <LKruv...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> People who are anti-gun are suicidal.
> > People who are anti-gun have calculated:
>
> Yeah, but from spurious basic presumptions.
> They're trying to work from the premise that 'all life is sacred', rather
> than the presumption that their life is worth more than a man who would
> attack them.
>
> > 1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
> > higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
> > defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;
>
> Yes.
> Better they die than breed.

not at the expense of life-subsidizing actual murderous attackers
>
> > 2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
> > gun.
>
> At the best, it's irrelevant.
> Nothing about the scenario is 'fair', so any response is justified.

They hope that being A-G will diminish the likelihod the intruder
would be (fire)armed.

>
> > --you, having a smoke, lol
>
> If they weren't good for you, the government wouldn't allow them.



28 Nov 2007 18:24:00
Rabid Weasel
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:05:16 -0800, LKruvant wrote:

> On Nov 28, 1:43 pm, "travis...@aol.cominyrface" <travis...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>> Sean Taylor, probowl safety for the Skins, shot dead in his own home
>> by an intruder.
>>
>> He responded to loud noises by retrieving a machete. A lone gunman
>> entered his bedroom, fired two shots, missing once and striking his
>> upper leg once, severing the femoral artery. Taylor never regained
>> consciousness after being airlifted to a trauma center.
>>
>> I had to hear some stupid mfer yesterday as I was takin a smoke
>> talking about how he doesn't need a gun in case someone breaks in b/c
>> he's a tortuous sonofabitch or something.
>>
>> Yeah...ok, dude. Sean Taylor was a huge, violent black man who was a
>> professional athlete in a sport that selects for pain tolerance, and
>> explosive burst, and who was known as one of the harder hitters in the
>> league. And he had a machete.
>>
>> People who are anti-gun are suicidal.
>>
>> Trav
>
> People who are anti-gun have calculated:

Really? Cuz I've talked to a *buch* of them and it's *NEVER* about
"calculated" stuff but rather *always* emotional BS arguments.


> 1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
> higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
> defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;

Nah. Though it may be true that they, themselves, should not be trusted
with a firearm, it's rarely that they believe themselves to be not
trustworthy.


> 2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
> gun.

Again, not that I've noticed. At least not U.S. anti-gunners. I do,
sometimes, here that argument from the U.K.

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk

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-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts



28 Nov 2007 18:28:46
Rabid Weasel
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:09:27 -0800, travisgod@aol.cominyrface wrote:

> One woman said that "9 times out of 10"
> your own gun is going to be taken and used on you.

I love it when they say that because then I ask for *proof* of their
stat, which they can not supply (because it's made up).

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk

--
FREE historic Western Martial Arts manuals:
http://www.lulu.com/lawson

Western Martial Arts - http://cbd.atspace.com/

"...it's the nature of the media and the participants. A herd of martial artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts



28 Nov 2007 17:22:24
Don Geddis
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

"travisgod@aol.cominyrface" <travisgod@aol.com > wrote on Wed, 28 Nov 2007:
> A lone gunman entered his bedroom, fired two shots, missing once and
> striking his upper leg once, severing the femoral artery. Taylor never
> regained consciousness after being airlifted to a trauma center.

Kind of unlucky, don't you think?

Only two shots, one misses, and the second hits his leg ... and he dies?
Surely that's not a typical outcome.

-- Don
_______________________________________________________________________________
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He can't pour sand out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel.
-- Schlock Mercenary (schlockmercenary.com), 8/17/2005


28 Nov 2007 19:03:42
Rabid Weasel
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:22:24 -0800, Don Geddis wrote:

> "travisgod@aol.cominyrface" <travisgod@aol.com> wrote on Wed, 28 Nov 2007:
>> A lone gunman entered his bedroom, fired two shots, missing once and
>> striking his upper leg once, severing the femoral artery. Taylor never
>> regained consciousness after being airlifted to a trauma center.
>
> Kind of unlucky, don't you think?

Yes.


> Only two shots, one misses, and the second hits his leg ... and he dies?
> Surely that's not a typical outcome.

Very atypical. And it helps to demonstrate the level of ignorance of
firearms, weapons in general, and plain physiology. A local radio
personality here was talking "live" with a reporter down there and opined
that the shooter might have been an "expert" or a "professional" because
he'd killed with a shot to the leg. :P

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk

FREE historic Western Martial Arts manuals:
http://www.lulu.com/lawson

Western Martial Arts - http://cbd.atspace.com/

"...it's the nature of the media and the participants. A herd of martial artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts



28 Nov 2007 20:48:43
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 5:55 pm, LKruv...@gmail.com wrote:
> huh? i meant, "why would you take at face value what someone dumb
> says?"

Next time try saying that instead of the other stupid shit.

> You stopped crossdressing and started smoking?

You did the reverse, no?

Trav


29 Nov 2007 06:05:41
Herbert Cannon
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


> Very atypical. And it helps to demonstrate the level of ignorance of
> firearms, weapons in general, and plain physiology. A local radio
> personality here was talking "live" with a reporter down there and opined
> that the shooter might have been an "expert" or a "professional" because
> he'd killed with a shot to the leg. :P

Which again demonstrates the abysmal ignorance of the press.




29 Nov 2007 06:07:03
Herbert Cannon
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


>
> People who are anti-gun cannot calculate at all.




29 Nov 2007 09:43:23
Pierre Honeyman
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 3:28 pm, Rabid Weasel <law...@NO27615SPAM+dayton.ne > wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:09:27 -0800, travis...@aol.cominyrface wrote:
> > One woman said that "9 times out of 10"
> > your own gun is going to be taken and used on you.
>
> I love it when they say that because then I ask for *proof* of their
> stat, which they can not supply (because it's made up).

Karyn keeps telling me "but someone will just take it away from me and
use it against me" and I keep telling her, "Not happening, honey."
Thankfully she doesn't let her own personal mythology get in the way
of actually carrying or deploying.

Pierre


29 Nov 2007 10:16:07
Shuurai
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


> People who are anti-gun have calculated:

Let's pause right there for a moment. The fact of the matter is, the
anti-gun crowd rarely bases anything on calculation. If you look at
actual crime statistics - the basis of actual calculation - it is
quite clear that in areas where guns have been banned or heavily
restricted, violent crime has increased.

The reason is quite simple: Laws barring the ownership of weapons
generally only prevent LAW ABIDING CITIZENS from owning weapons. What
does a person who's willing to commit murder or use armed force to
steal from people care if his gun is legal or not?

Even the laws that supposedly add years to sentencing if a weapon is
involved tend to be meaningless when you look what actually happens.
You add ten years onto a twenty year sentence, so the guy ends up
doing six instead of five. It's meaningless.

The old saying is true - where guns are outlawed, only outlaws will
have guns.

> 1. The likelihood they'll do something wrong/stupid/undisciplined is
> higher than the likelihood they'll be attacked in a way they could
> defend themselves with a gun. They are probably right;

Based on what? Do you have anything that even resembles evidence for
this statement? Just at a quick glance, according to the NSC in the
USA in 2004 there were 649 accidental deaths involving firearms versus
11,624 deaths by firearm assault. There were 32 deaths involving
accidental stabbing versus 2,079 due to stabbing assaults.

What calculation are you using that could possibily lead you to
conclude that death by accident is more likely?

> 2. Are making a statement about the intruder's likellihood of having a
> gun.

I can't control whether or not the intruder will have a gun; and
NEITHER CAN THE GOVERNMENT. That is why we all should be allowed to
control whether or not **WE** will have a gun.

The cold hard fact of the matter is that the government cannot
reliably protect you in the case of a home invasion. No police force,
not even the best of them, can magically appear in your home the
instant you need them. The average response time in "well protected"
neighborhoods is something like seven minutes.

The best way to stop crime is to aggressively punish those who commit
crimes, while at the same time allowing private citizens to protect
themselves.




29 Nov 2007 11:11:15
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 29, 7:05 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net > wrote:
> > Very atypical. And it helps to demonstrate the level of ignorance of
> > firearms, weapons in general, and plain physiology. A local radio
> > personality here was talking "live" with a reporter down there and opined
> > that the shooter might have been an "expert" or a "professional" because
> > he'd killed with a shot to the leg. :P
>
> Which again demonstrates the abysmal ignorance of the press.

Well, the latest from an ex-teammate is that Taylor had many enemies
in Miami.

This may have been a hit, who knows? If this is the case, he's a
damned fool for continuing to live there. The ex-teammate had said
that Taylor had been the target in the past of some attempts at
whatever.

This could just be a bunch of BS. It seems unlikely someone is going
to break in and give you a headstart to whack you. Easier to wait
till the offseason and get you in your car at a nightspot. Also, I'd
have expected more shots if it was a hit, and kill the bitch too.

What I expect happened was that the guy figured Taylor had just played
earlier in the day in DC, consequently was unlikely to be home, broke
in, heard Taylor probably saying "I'm gonna cut you up with this
machete, mfer" and fired in defense of his own life. Could depend
upon the circumstances, which haven't come out yet...if the "loud
noise" was the guy bashing on the bedroom door, then it was a hit.

Trav


29 Nov 2007 12:48:51
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 28, 11:48 pm, "travis...@aol.cominyrface" <travis...@aol.com >
wrote:
> On Nov 28, 5:55 pm, LKruv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > huh? i meant, "why would you take at face value what someone dumb
> > says?"
>
> Next time try saying that instead of the other stupid shit.
>
> > You stopped crossdressing and started smoking?
>
> You did the reverse, no?
>
> Trav

No, the tight clothes are for my new motorcycle. And that's not
smoke, Ducati exhaust


29 Nov 2007 12:56:31
Shuurai
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


> What I expect happened was that the guy figured Taylor had just played
> earlier in the day in DC, consequently was unlikely to be home, broke
> in, heard Taylor probably saying "I'm gonna cut you up with this
> machete, mfer" and fired in defense of his own life. Could depend
> upon the circumstances, which haven't come out yet...if the "loud
> noise" was the guy bashing on the bedroom door, then it was a hit.

Apperantly, he had a lot of ex-friends who were more than a little
pissed off by the fact that he was intentionally distancing himself
from them.

Someone apparantly broke into the home just a few days before. From
what I've heard, nothing seems to have been stolen and the killer
bashed down the door and fired. My guess is that it was a hit of
sorts; not a professional hit or anything like that, but more likely a
thug with a grudge.

Considering the earlier threats against his life that have been
reported, along with the alleged "warning" a few days earlier
(supposedly a knife was left on their bed) he shouldn't have been
there in the first place, much less allowed his girlfiend and kid to
stay there. Dude was a millionare and a high-profile athlete - he
could have easily afforded some security.

It's a shame. He was a damn good player, and actually a decent guy.
Had some trouble in his younger days, but he was turning it around.
Nice kid, even if a bit standoffish.


30 Nov 2007 08:57:31
Fraser Johnston
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


<LKruvant@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:00659feb-ea82-4a35-8ba9-2cd20e958917@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> No, the tight clothes are for my new motorcycle. And that's not
> smoke, Ducati exhaust

Oooooooooh. 1098????

Fraser





29 Nov 2007 19:16:10
Rabid Weasel
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:05:41 -0600, Herbert Cannon wrote:

>
>> Very atypical. And it helps to demonstrate the level of ignorance of
>> firearms, weapons in general, and plain physiology. A local radio
>> personality here was talking "live" with a reporter down there and opined
>> that the shooter might have been an "expert" or a "professional" because
>> he'd killed with a shot to the leg. :P
>
> Which again demonstrates the abysmal ignorance of the press.

This personality just did a 3 part series on their morning show called
"Armed and NOT Dangerous" discussing CCP in a *positive* light. So it's
not as if he's grinding an ax. He's just ignorant of where you shoot a
person for best effect.

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk
--
FREE historic Western Martial Arts manuals:
http://www.lulu.com/lawson

Western Martial Arts - http://cbd.atspace.com/

"...it's the nature of the media and the participants. A herd of martial artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts



30 Nov 2007 10:06:47
suds mcduff
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

Shuurai wrote:
>> What I expect happened was that the guy figured Taylor had just played
>> earlier in the day in DC, consequently was unlikely to be home, broke
>> in, heard Taylor probably saying "I'm gonna cut you up with this
>> machete, mfer" and fired in defense of his own life. Could depend
>> upon the circumstances, which haven't come out yet...if the "loud
>> noise" was the guy bashing on the bedroom door, then it was a hit.
>
> Apperantly, he had a lot of ex-friends who were more than a little
> pissed off by the fact that he was intentionally distancing himself
> from them.

----Rumor on the streets is that it was a continuing beef. He was still
quite active in the old hood (west Perrine).

>
> Someone apparantly broke into the home just a few days before. From
> what I've heard, nothing seems to have been stolen and the killer
> bashed down the door and fired.

----I've read that he grabbed the machete and the gunner shot him as he
came out of the BR door. Why didn't he get his alarm repaired?

My guess is that it was a hit of
> sorts; not a professional hit or anything like that, but more likely a
> thug with a grudge.

----Yup, that's the rumor.

>
> Considering the earlier threats against his life that have been
> reported, along with the alleged "warning" a few days earlier
> (supposedly a knife was left on their bed) he shouldn't have been
> there in the first place, much less allowed his girlfiend and kid to
> stay there. Dude was a millionare and a high-profile athlete - he
> could have easily afforded some security.

---And maybe a riot shotgun? He may have still been shot from ambush,
which is the likely scenario, but his odds are better than with a
machete, no?


> It's a shame. He was a damn good player, and actually a decent guy.

---Despite the thug image, most football players are. Without the sport
in schools, these kids really *would* become thugs.

> Had some trouble in his younger days, but he was turning it around.
> Nice kid, even if a bit standoffish.

----Why, because he didn't trust sportswriters? Imagine!


30 Nov 2007 09:18:36
Herbert Cannon
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


>>
>> Which again demonstrates the abysmal ignorance of the press.
>
> This personality just did a 3 part series on their morning show called
> "Armed and NOT Dangerous" discussing CCP in a *positive* light. So it's
> not as if he's grinding an ax. He's just ignorant of where you shoot a
> person for best effect.

Yes; but, that is after CCP passed in Florida and proved all the newsy
press ballyhoo, about blood will run in the streets and Florida will be the
gunshine state, was wrong. They were abysmally ignorant and seem to remain
so.
I remember a female broadcaster saying one time that assault rifles could
shoot people a mile away. Neat trick that!




30 Nov 2007 09:26:59
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 29, 6:57 pm, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au > wrote:
> <LKruv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:00659feb-ea82-4a35-8ba9-2cd20e958917@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > No, the tight clothes are for my new motorcycle. And that's not
> > smoke, Ducati exhaust
>
> Oooooooooh. 1098????
>
> Fraser

only a Monster, that 1098 be too fast for me... I have enough
injuriess from BJJ without adding "left right leg on highway." ppl
drive like shit here in the DC area


30 Nov 2007 14:14:18
Sam the Bam
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Nov 29, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Considering the earlier threats against his life that have been
> reported, along with the alleged "warning" a few days earlier
> (supposedly a knife was left on their bed)

A knife on the bed??? wow, that's right out
of "The Godfather"... life imitates art...

No way this is a random killing.


Sam




01 Dec 2007 15:57:19
suds mcduff
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

Sam the Bam wrote:
> On Nov 29, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Considering the earlier threats against his life that have been
>> reported, along with the alleged "warning" a few days earlier
>> (supposedly a knife was left on their bed)
>
> A knife on the bed??? wow, that's right out
> of "The Godfather"... life imitates art...

---Except, it should have been a bullet on the bed, eh?

>
> No way this is a random killing.

----They arrested suspects last night. There are confessions that the
robbers weren't expecting anyone to be home. So, right now, it *does*
seem to be random.



03 Dec 2007 12:35:16
Fraser Johnston
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


<LKruvant@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:41354d6f-3ff6-45fd-895d-5e34071e6310@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 29, 6:57 pm, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> <LKruv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:00659feb-ea82-4a35-8ba9-2cd20e958917@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > No, the tight clothes are for my new motorcycle. And that's not
>> > smoke, Ducati exhaust
>>
>> Oooooooooh. 1098????
>>
>> Fraser
>
> only a Monster, that 1098 be too fast for me... I have enough
> injuriess from BJJ without adding "left right leg on highway." ppl
> drive like shit here in the DC area

I quite like the monster. One of my bikes is the Honda 250 ripoff of it. I've
found a place that rents 1098s in Vegas. Can't wait to ride one.

Fraser





03 Dec 2007 07:01:01
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Dec 2, 10:35 pm, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au > wrote:
> <LKruv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:41354d6f-3ff6-45fd-895d-5e34071e6310@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 29, 6:57 pm, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >> <LKruv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:00659feb-ea82-4a35-8ba9-2cd20e958917@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > No, the tight clothes are for my new motorcycle. And that's not
> >> > smoke, Ducati exhaust
>
> >> Oooooooooh. 1098????
>
> >> Fraser
>
> > only a Monster, that 1098 be too fast for me... I have enough
> > injuriess from BJJ without adding "left right leg on highway." ppl
> > drive like shit here in the DC area
>
> I quite like the monster. One of my bikes is the Honda 250 ripoff of it. I've
> found a place that rents 1098s in Vegas. Can't wait to ride one.
>
> Fraser

Prbably a better gamble than the casions


04 Dec 2007 08:12:37
Shuurai
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight


> ----They arrested suspects last night. There are confessions that the
> robbers weren't expecting anyone to be home. So, right now, it *does*
> seem to be random.

I dunno... still something fishy about the whole thing. Could be
they've been caught and they're trying to avoid having it called
premeditated. I just don't buy kicking in the bedroom door, firing
two shots, and then leaving if the real motive was robbery.

Anywho, I'm glad they caught the bastards and I hope they're all
behind bars for a long, long time.


04 Dec 2007 16:48:35
Sam the Bam
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

On Dec 1, suds mcduff <sudsmcd...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> >>Considering the earlier threats against his life that
> >>have been reported, along with the alleged "warning"
> >>a few days earlier (supposedly a knife was left on their bed)
>
> > A knife on the bed??? wow, that's right out
> > of "The Godfather"... life imitates art...
>
> > No way this is a random killing.
>
> They arrested suspects last night. There are
> confessions that the robbers weren't expecting
> anyone to be home. So, right now, it *does*
> seem to be random.


Maybe so... but why would anyone confess
to a robbery and homicide?


Sam


05 Dec 2007 10:39:53
travisgod@aol.cominyrface
Re: Don't bring a machete to a gunfight

> Maybe so... but why would anyone confess
> to a robbery and homicide?
>
> Sam

People do it all the time. There were 4 of them.

As I'd initially said, if it was a robbery they would have expected
Taylor not to be at home. It was very obviously, in that case,
somebody who knew him, and sure enough it turned out to be a ghetto
monkey who was a friend of a friend or whatever and was at a party.

This is why people normally do not want negroes moving into their
neighborhoods. It is not so much the people moving in but the friends
of friends who will be at the many parties that they feel they may be
entitled to throw that you do not want on your street.

Trav