29 Mar 2006 02:38:28
Austin(JRN)
px3 clubs

im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap

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29 Mar 2006 02:55:27
swing sister
Re: px3 clubs

Austin(JRN wrote:
> im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
>
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i own both of those (well, my dad has the px3s, but i juggle them) and i'd
recomend the renegades. they're more like cusomizable (if that's a word)
and i think they're better to juggle. one of them just had the nob fall
off though. but i'd still recomend the renegades.

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29 Mar 2006 02:58:25
yonch04
Re: px3 clubs

Austin(JRN wrote:
> im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
>
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Rengades are excellent quality clubs, and at 25 dollars a pop for the
undecorated version, its a pretty good value. I have to say though, that
those px3s look pretty sharp, never used them though.

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29 Mar 2006 03:03:10
Prefanatic
Re: px3 clubs

swing sister wrote:
> Austin(JRN wrote:
> > im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> > you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
> >
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>
> i own both of those (well, my dad has the px3s, but i juggle them) and i'd
> recomend the renegades. they're more like cusomizable (if that's a word)
> and i think they're better to juggle. one of them just had the nob fall
> off though. but i'd still recomend the renegades.
>
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okay I agree that you have a bigger selection with the renegade but think
of it this way the PX3's are more durable due to the plastic core and also
most people including myself prefer a quality club over one that has nice
colors. noones going to make fun of you for the color of the club Go with
the PX3's



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28 Mar 2006 19:50:01
Re: px3 clubs

most people at my club use renegades, but one guy just got some px3s,
and i far prefer them. Im not a huge club juggler, so I wouldnt weigh
my opinion too heavily, but some great jugglers I know love them as
well.



29 Mar 2006 04:19:53
haffnium72
Re: px3 clubs

Austin(JRN wrote:
> im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
>
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Austin,
Wait until Juggle Those in NYC. You'll get to try out both and possibly
buy them there without any shipping costs.
I'll talk to you later,
John

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29 Mar 2006 04:52:28
ultimatewannabe
Re: px3 clubs

yonch04 wrote:
> Austin(JRN wrote:
> > im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> > you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
> >
> > ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==----
>
> Rengades are excellent quality clubs, and at 25 dollars a pop for the
> undecorated version, its a pretty good value. I have to say though, that
> those px3s look pretty sharp, never used them though.
>
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Since everyone had PX3s at the WJF this year and everyone had Renegades
last year I would definately say that neither one is crap. I have only
owned 85 mm standard weight renegades and I can't complain. I spend
ridiculous amounts of time juggling so realize that this estimation is low
for a reason.

My first set I juggled on concrete all the time. I had 3 and in 6 months
I shattered one, ripped off all three knobs and broke the dowel in
another. My second set has lasted 9 months so far and I attribute that
mainly to not juggling on concrete. I have 7 clubs now and they get
juggled 16-30 hours a week. The dowel in one of them just broke but other
than knobs coming off this is the only break I've had so far.

I have never juggled PX3s so I can't really say anything about them.

UW

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29 Mar 2006 05:05:07
ultimatewannabe
Re: px3 clubs

Austin(JRN wrote:
> im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
>
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Speaking of PX3s, does anyone know where I can order them with all the
color options (I know the WJF website has 2 colors)? I'm in California.

UW

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29 Mar 2006 05:24:18
ultimatewannabe
Re: px3 clubs

ultimatewannabe wrote:
> Austin(JRN wrote:
> > im thinking on getting some px3's or renegades, any advice on which ones
> > you think are better id reailly hate to spend mad money on crap
> >
> > ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==----
>
> Speaking of PX3s, does anyone know where I can order them with all the
> color options (I know the WJF website has 2 colors)? I'm in California.
>
> UW
>
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Never mind. These guys have 'em http://www.passepasse.com/

UW

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29 Mar 2006 06:05:26
chickenjuggler
Re: px3 clubs

Does anyone know where you can buy them in the UK? I need some new clubs
and the px3s might be a good option.

Chickenjuggler

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29 Mar 2006 08:46:14
Mini
Re: px3 clubs

chickenjuggler wrote:
> Does anyone know where you can buy them in the UK? I need some new clubs
> and the px3s might be a good option.
>
> Chickenjuggler
>
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>


hiya chickenjuggler

keep an eye on www.playjuggling.co.uk




29 Mar 2006 19:25:41
Ian Harrower
Re: px3 clubs

On 2006-03-29, adypops <peeps_pole@hotmail.co.uk.nospam > wrote:
> Mini wrote:
>> FilTheGap wrote:
>> > Orinoco wrote:
>> >> ultimatewannabe wrote:
>> >>> Since everyone had PX3s at the WJF this year...
>> >> I'm also on the market for some new clubs, but has anyone who has not been
>> >> sponsored actually used them? I don't really consider someone using props
>> >> under a sponsorship deal as much of an endorsement. Give me a free set of
>> >> clubs &/or pay me to use them & I certainly will.
>> >>
>> >> The reported extra durability is a big selling point for me. I'm
>> >> particularly interested in if they bounce as well as wooden dowelled
> clubs.
>> >>
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>> >
>> > I have a set of px3's and they are top, nice feel ( a bit slippy when new)
>> > good spin and the are still in one piece after 9 months or so.
>> > The bounce is not the same as wood - they take more force and dont always
>> > do what you want or is it me.....
>> >
>> > phil
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>> we will have some available at BJC for people to try out..
>>
>> come find either myself Mini, or see Jak at the Jesters stall in
>> the traders area.
>
> how much is 36 earo? I wanted to get some, but can't convert euros to
> pounds. cheers,
> adrian
>
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>

Have you tried typing "36 euros in pounds" into google? I am note sure how up
to date their currency conversion is, but it is not a bad estimate.

You can do other conversions too, like "0.47 furlong in nm", although I am not
sure why you would want too.

Ian


29 Mar 2006 11:55:00
Re: px3 clubs

I've tried the PX3s (whatever configuration Olga had at the Nomadic
festival) and didn't like the feel. The handles felt too small, and
IIRC the clubs were too light overall. i currently use Renegade 95s.
I recommend going to a few clubs or festivals and trying out whatever
they have and getting what you like.



30 Mar 2006 08:54:16
Peter Billam
Re: px3 clubs

On 2006-03-29, moderkaka@gmail.com <moderkaka@gmail.com > wrote:
> I've tried the PX3s (whatever configuration Olga had at the Nomadic
> festival) and didn't like the feel. The handles felt too small, and
> IIRC the clubs were too light overall. i currently use Renegade 95s.
> I recommend going to a few clubs or festivals and trying out whatever
> they have and getting what you like.
>
http://www.passepasse.comdon't seem to give the weight of
their px3's. Does anyone know their weight (e.g. in grams :-) ?
Would you say the handles are as thin as Radical Fish handles ?
Thinner than Beard Circus Special handles ?

Regards, Peter

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30 Mar 2006 10:12:55
Peter Billam
Re: px3 clubs

On 2006-03-29, Luke Burrage <lukeburrage@yahoobutnospamthanks.com.nospam > wrote:
>
>> http://www.passepasse.comdon't seem to give the weight of
>> their px3's. Does anyone know their weight (e.g. in grams :-) ?
>> Would you say the handles are as thin as Radical Fish handles ?
>> Thinner than Beard Circus Special handles ?
>
> I'm actually planning on collecting these kinds of details on all
> available juggling clubs for a new article on the IJDb. So far there is
> now one place to go if you want to find your perfect club, so a comparive
> chart for all popular and not so popular brands would be a good thing. You
> could compare:
>
> Overall Length
> Length of body
> Maximum width of body
> Length of handle
> Maximum width of handle
> Minimum width of handle
> Weight
> Center of gravity from widpoint of the length
> Moment of inertia (how fast or slow it spins)
> Onepiece or multipiece
> Handle (wrapped, soft plastic, solid, etc)
> Knob (soft like renegades, hard like px3, etc)
> Dowel (wood or plastic)
>
> I'm sure there are a few more things, but I think it would help not to get
> on to available colours or decoration styles. This would concentrate more
> on how the club feels to juggle, not what it looks like. What do you think?
>
Excellent idea ! much needed, I'm absolutely in favour :-)
Could you include a button to sort the clubs in order of
weight, or in order of MOI, or in order of handle thickness ?

The handle thickness is tricky... What we really _need_ is the handle
thickness where you catch the club (i.e. when it's a "perfect" catch).
But it would be hard to devise an objective rule for where that is ...
Perhaps something like a certain fraction of the distance from the
COG to the knob or something ?

On the Pirouette- or Circus Special- type design it would be, I dunno,
maybe 45mm from where the hard plastic stops underneath the thick end
of the handle. But you also have to cope with Dubé knives, one-piece
clubs, and so on. (not to mention tibia :-))

Regards, Peter

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