30 Mar 2006 10:12:19
Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
cube shaped bags.

Are cubes better for beginners?

Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?

Am I better off with round bean bags?

Thanks,
John



30 Mar 2006 18:19:09
Little Paul
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

On 2006-03-30, jraggio@gmail.com <jraggio@gmail.com > wrote:
> I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
> weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
> noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
> cube shaped bags.
>
> Are cubes better for beginners?

In the case of the klutz cubes - they're *much* better than any juggling
ball that I've ever seen bundled as part of a beginers set.

Seriously. They're lovely.

> Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?

Very much so. Countless thousands of people have learnt with the klutz
cubes over the years, they're great.

> Am I better off with round bean bags?

The shape doesn't make a blind bit of diference - the weight is more
important. most round "beginers" juggling balls are far too light. The
klutz cubes are a nice weight, have a nice texture to them etc.

You'll do fine :-)

-Paul


30 Mar 2006 19:22:13
Jay Linn
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not

jraggio@gmail.com wrote:
> I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
> weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
> noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
> cube shaped bags.

Instructional kits are assembled to cost, therefore those cubes will
have been picked with the producer's costs just as much in mind as the
needs of the beginning juggler. Otherwise you would get four or five
decent balls, and a much bigger, better book, priced at $50. Don't worry
about it though - Klutz has probably taught more people to juggle than
any other single person/publication/method.

> Are cubes better for beginners?

It doesn't really matter, don't worry about it. For now, you have
cubes - get used to them.

> Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?

Yes, it's fine.

> Am I better off with round bean bags?

Quite possibly, but you wont really know until you've tried for a
while. Like I said before, don't worry about it. The most important
thing is to use what you have, and ideally to enjoy the process - if you
do, you won't look back.

Good luck and have fun.

--
Jay Linn

"I ache for the touch of your lips, dear
But much more for the touch of your whips, dear"
- Tom Lehrer, The Masochism Tango


30 Mar 2006 10:22:43
Alan Morgan
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

In article <1143742339.020643.112560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
<jraggio@gmail.com > wrote:
>I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
>weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
>noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
>cube shaped bags.

Tradition? Cheaper to make?

>Are cubes better for beginners?
>Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?
>Am I better off with round bean bags?

No difference, yes, and no difference.

JFtCK is, IMHO, the best book around for learning the basic cascade. It
breaks down the steps well, has lots of helpful advice for fixing problems,
and correctly points out what the hard and easy bits are. It's not a
substitute for learning from a live human, but it's pretty good. The only
place it really falls down is when it talks about the difficulty of 4 and 5
balls. Yes, they are hard, but I remember getting the impression that you
had to be an uber-studly Godlike juggler to be able to do them. Not so.

Alan
--
Defendit numerus


30 Mar 2006 18:43:09
Prefanatic
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

wrote:
> I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
> weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
> noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
> cube shaped bags.
>
> Are cubes better for beginners?
>
> Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?
>
> Am I better off with round bean bags?
>
> Thanks,
> John

I believe that cubes are easier to Sew together than balls are so there
cheaper so the books can be afordable



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30 Mar 2006 11:42:54
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

Hey, thanks to all of you that have responded so far. I posted my
question, went for lunch, and came back to 5 responses. Like learning
anything new, I wanted to avoid going down the wrong path. I also
wanted to see if there was a reson why these books came with cubes and
not balls. I searched the web a bit for juggling supplies and none of
the vendors sold cubes. This made me think maybe it was bad to use
them.

Thanks,
John



30 Mar 2006 20:17:07
YnotJuggle
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with

wrote:
> I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
> weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
> noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
> cube shaped bags.
>
> Are cubes better for beginners?
>
> Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?
>
> Am I better off with round bean bags?
>
> Thanks,
> John

Personally, I LOVE my Klutz cubes. I even went out and bought another
book, just for more cubes. I'm not sure what it is about them, but I enjoy
them a lot. In time they will break in, and almost become balls anyway.
Even 10 years later I still pick up my Klutz cubes nearly everyday. :)

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30 Mar 2006 20:42:50
David Stephens
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

I loved my klutz balls. I used them till they were falling apart with
holes and the filling was leaking, then I put electrical tape around em.
Plus the advantage of the cube shape is they don't tend to roll around
when you drop them: a great advantage to a begining juggler.

- David Stephens
Just your typical Juggler Next Door

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30 Mar 2006 20:57:08
haffnium72
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

Alan Morgan wrote:
*snip*
>The only
> place it really falls down is when it talks about the difficulty of 4 and 5
> balls. Yes, they are hard, but I remember getting the impression that you
> had to be an uber-studly Godlike juggler to be able to do them. Not so.

I agree Klutz does faulter with 4 and 5. It took me until my first
juggling festival in 2004 after close to 5 years of juggling before I
realized normal people/hobbists could get good at juggling. I would
recommend going to a festival as soon as you can so you can get inspired
and meet some hella cool people.

-John Haffner

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30 Mar 2006 21:12:31
ian smith
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

Alan Morgan wrote:
> In article <1143742339.020643.112560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> <jraggio@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
> >weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
> >noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
> >cube shaped bags.
>
> Tradition? Cheaper to make?
>
> >Are cubes better for beginners?
> >Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?
> >Am I better off with round bean bags?
>
> No difference, yes, and no difference.
>
> JFtCK is, IMHO, the best book around for learning the basic cascade. It
> breaks down the steps well, has lots of helpful advice for fixing problems,
> and correctly points out what the hard and easy bits are. It's not a
> substitute for learning from a live human, but it's pretty good. The only
> place it really falls down is when it talks about the difficulty of 4 and 5
> balls. Yes, they are hard, but I remember getting the impression that you
> had to be an uber-studly Godlike juggler to be able to do them. Not so.
>
> Alan
> --
> Defendit numerus

I sincerely hope you're not bigoted against uber-studly Godlike
jugglers. Us he-men still have our pride, you know.

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30 Mar 2006 23:14:15
Brian Fahs
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

Cubes are cheaper / Easier to produce.
<jraggio@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1143742339.020643.112560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I just bought the klutz book and will start goofing around this
> weekend. Why does the book come with cubes and not round bags? I
> noticed that another popular beginners book on Amazon also comes with
> cube shaped bags.
>
> Are cubes better for beginners?
>
> Is it OK to learn with bean bag cubes?
>
> Am I better off with round bean bags?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>




31 Mar 2006 09:59:19
master3bs
Re: Why do the 2 popular beginners books come with cubes and not balls?

I recommend occasionally trying different sizes and weights while
learning to juggle. It will only help you.

Having said that, I echo what the others say.