31 Oct 2007 21:43:49
KooKie
New ballz, Gballz

Halloween's just past, and some rotten ass kids threw my gballz in a big
fire.

Great, just great.

So, i need some new balls, and since i've recently started working on 7 i
think i might try some smaller balls. Is this a good idea? What's the best
size for numbers juggling? My current favourite is the

Gballz Elite series 2 inch == > http://www.gballz.com/elite_series.htm.

Does size really matter? Or is it just what you do with it ^^.

I'm sorry if this topic has been up here before, but i'm really serious
and i've got noone else to turn to... snif


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31 Oct 2007 21:50:24
Adam Rowney
Re: New ballz, Gballz

KooKie wrote:
>
> Halloween's just past, and some rotten ass kids threw my gballz in a big
> fire.

Bastards!

> Great, just great.
>
> So, i need some new balls, and since i've recently started working on 7 i
> think i might try some smaller balls. Is this a good idea? What's the best
> size for numbers juggling? My current favourite is the
>
> Gballz Elite series 2 inch ==> http://www.gballz.com/elite_series.htm.
>
> Does size really matter? Or is it just what you do with it ^^.
>
> I'm sorry if this topic has been up here before, but i'm really serious
> and i've got noone else to turn to... snif

Bigger balls are more accurate, and you get more response.
Small are easier to juggle.
I use 2.5inch (130gram) gballz for 3-7.
2inch (70gram)for 8+

But this is subjective. Ewano used 2.75 (or 3inch) to do up to 9 ball
cascade.

Enjoy,

Adam

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31 Oct 2007 22:09:08
gantenbein
Re: New ballz, Gballz

KooKie wrote:
>
> Halloween's just past, and some rotten ass kids threw my gballz in a big
> fire.
>
> Great, just great.
>
> So, i need some new balls, and since i've recently started working on 7 i
> think i might try some smaller balls. Is this a good idea? What's the best
> size for numbers juggling? My current favourite is the
>
> Gballz Elite series 2 inch ==> http://www.gballz.com/elite_series.htm.
>
> Does size really matter? Or is it just what you do with it ^^.
>
> I'm sorry if this topic has been up here before, but i'm really serious
> and i've got noone else to turn to... snif
>
>

Not that I'm in any position to give advice on juggling seven *sigh* but I
use two sets of balls for it: To get started I used street hockey balls
partially filled with sand (~120-130) that gives you some 'russian effect'
and makes catching four in one hand really easy in a tetrahedron grip. Now
I often use baseballs or cricket balls, those really reinforce good
technique. I go back and forth between those two (or three) sets of balls
for seven.

But maybe you should rather listen to someone who actually can juggle
seven ...

Good luck!

Steffen







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31 Oct 2007 23:24:59
Brian Fahs
Re: New ballz, Gballz

> Bigger balls are more accurate, and you get more response.
> Small are easier to juggle.
> I use 2.5inch (130gram) gballz for 3-7.
> 2inch (70gram)for 8+
>
> But this is subjective. Ewano used 2.75 (or 3inch) to do up to 9 ball
> cascade.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Adam
>
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Just a comment here. Bigger Balls are not Inherently more accurate, however,
because they are heavier (And it's the WEIGHT, not the size) you need a
larger deviation from a "Normal" throw to create a big problem. Yes heaver
balls tend to mean a more stable pattern. For example, for "Blind" juggling,
I've had the most success with weighted balls.

So, bigger balls are:
More consistant in a tall pattern (based on weight)
Harder to get out of your hands (Based on hand size / Experiance) and
collect.
Need more endurance

Brian




31 Oct 2007 23:31:07
DanaP
Re: New ballz, Gballz

I juggle 7 moleskin gballz. Mine are like 2.375 inches or some weird
custom measurement I conjured up to make my order a pain in the ass.
Pretty much I aimed to have mine be in between a standard ball and a
numbers ball. I love them and find them to be a perfect size.

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31 Oct 2007 23:36:30
ChrisFowler
Re: New ballz, Gballz

KooKie wrote:
>
> Halloween's just past, and some rotten ass kids threw my gballz in a big
> fire.
>
> Great, just great.
>
> So, i need some new balls, and since i've recently started working on 7 i
> think i might try some smaller balls. Is this a good idea? What's the best
> size for numbers juggling? My current favourite is the
>
> Gballz Elite series 2 inch ==> http://www.gballz.com/elite_series.htm.
>
> Does size really matter? Or is it just what you do with it ^^.
>
> I'm sorry if this topic has been up here before, but i'm really serious
> and i've got noone else to turn to... snif
>
>

That's the size I use for high numbers. They work nicely.


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01 Nov 2007 00:06:17
Warren Hammond
Re: New ballz, Gballz

KooKie wrote:
>
> Halloween's just past, and some rotten ass kids threw my gballz in a big
> fire.
>
> Great, just great.
>
> So, i need some new balls, and since i've recently started working on 7 i
> think i might try some smaller balls. Is this a good idea? What's the best
> size for numbers juggling? My current favourite is the
>
> Gballz Elite series 2 inch ==> http://www.gballz.com/elite_series.htm.
>
> Does size really matter? Or is it just what you do with it ^^.
>
> I'm sorry if this topic has been up here before, but i'm really serious
> and i've got noone else to turn to... snif
>
>

I'm not too good at 7 yet, but my 6 has started locking in pretty hard. I
use standard size russians (probably 2 3/4 to 3 inches), and like them a
whole lot more than smaller ones. I think for me its a combination of the
weight and size that makes me like them, even for 5+ balls. Anyway, I
plan on using the same balls for 7. Personally, I think the larger ones
will give you a better pattern and form.

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01 Nov 2007 11:25:37
Norbi
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Well great choice on ball. The Elite series are the best beanbag I've
juggled. I would however say go for a slightly bigger size, as everyone
seems to be saying. You will get a much more comfortable pattern. So I'd
say at least 2.5, and perhaps even 2.75

N

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01 Nov 2007 15:16:07
Ewano
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Adam Rowney wrote:
>
> But this is subjective. Ewano used 2.75 (or 3inch) to do up to 9 ball
> cascade.

I'd love to say that was correct, but I used some (VERY) floppy 80g
burrage bags the 1 time I qualified a 9 ball cascade (and for much of my
practice leading up to it).

However I did use 180g thuds when I first worked on increasing the
consistency of my 7 ball pattern (which included training my 9 ball flash).

I'm currently looking to replace my toss juggling ball stock:

A set of 11 lightweight slightly under filled numbers bags.
A set of 7 180g thuds.
A set of 5 Silex(sp) balls for some stage ball like action.

As you can see, I'm not convinced that one ball does it all.

Ewano - wondering if Adam will be at Leeds..

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01 Nov 2007 18:01:42
KooKie
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Norbi wrote:
>
> Well great choice on ball. The Elite series are the best beanbag I've
> juggled. I would however say go for a slightly bigger size, as everyone
> seems to be saying. You will get a much more comfortable pattern. So I'd
> say at least 2.5, and perhaps even 2.75
>
> N
>

Thx all for giving me some perspective, and after long delibiration, I've
decided to go for 2,75 gballz elite. I always felt more comfortable with
bigger balls and as for numbers, the biggest problem I'm going to face is
holding them in my hand I think... don't get me wrong I have the biggest
hands ever but i still find it difficult to throw that first ball of 7.
Probably need more technique.

Much appreciated

Kim

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01 Nov 2007 23:09:21
Greg B
Re: New ballz, Gballz

On Oct 31, 7:24 pm, "Brian Fahs" <brian.f...@sbcglobal.nospam.com >
wrote:
> > Bigger balls are more accurate, and you get more response.
> > Small are easier to juggle.
> > I use 2.5inch (130gram) gballz for 3-7.
> > 2inch (70gram)for 8+
>
> > But this is subjective. Ewano used 2.75 (or 3inch) to do up to 9 ball
> > cascade.
>
> > Enjoy,
>
> > Adam
>
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>
> Just a comment here. Bigger Balls are not Inherently more accurate, however,
> because they are heavier (And it's the WEIGHT, not the size) you need a
> larger deviation from a "Normal" throw to create a big problem. Yes heaver
> balls tend to mean a more stable pattern. For example, for "Blind" juggling,
> I've had the most success with weighted balls.
>
> So, bigger balls are:
> More consistant in a tall pattern (based on weight)
> Harder to get out of your hands (Based on hand size / Experiance) and
> collect.
> Need more endurance
>
> Brian

I would argue that bigger balls are more accurate. As mentioned, the
weight definitely plays a role in an accurate pattern but so does the
size. When a person catches a ball and then throws it, their hand
stays in mostly cupped shape. When you catch a small ball, it tends to
"rattle" around inside this cup whereas a bigger ball doesn't. It is
easily for the hand to grasp the ball. When it is time to throw the
ball, the large ball leaves the hand with less rattling than a small
ball. Any extra movement of the ball as its released will create a
less accurate throw. So I would say it is more than just the weight;
size is very important.

gregb



02 Nov 2007 22:27:42
Adam Rowney
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Ewano wrote:
>
> Adam Rowney wrote:
> >
> > But this is subjective. Ewano used 2.75 (or 3inch) to do up to 9 ball
> > cascade.
>
> I'd love to say that was correct, but I used some (VERY) floppy 80g
> burrage bags the 1 time I qualified a 9 ball cascade (and for much of my
> practice leading up to it).
>
> However I did use 180g thuds when I first worked on increasing the
> consistency of my 7 ball pattern (which included training my 9 ball flash).
>
> I'm currently looking to replace my toss juggling ball stock:
>
> A set of 11 lightweight slightly under filled numbers bags.
> A set of 7 180g thuds.
> A set of 5 Silex(sp) balls for some stage ball like action.
>
> As you can see, I'm not convinced that one ball does it all.
>
> Ewano - wondering if Adam will be at Leeds..

Adam - wishing he could be at leeds, or any other festival for that matter!



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03 Nov 2007 23:46:48
Tim from Leeds
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Adam Rowney wrote:
>
> Ewano wrote:
> >
> > Ewano - wondering if Adam will be at Leeds..
>
> Adam - wishing he could be at leeds, or any other festival for that matter!
>

Tim - comes from Leeds, wants to be at Leeds, has exams at uni for one
week after which term ends, and can't really justify the trip from Reading
twice in a week.

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04 Nov 2007 03:02:23
ChrisFowler
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Norbi wrote:
>
> Well great choice on ball. The Elite series are the best beanbag I've
> juggled. I would however say go for a slightly bigger size, as everyone
> seems to be saying. You will get a much more comfortable pattern. So I'd
> say at least 2.5, and perhaps even 2.75
>
> N
>

I soo agree. Elites are awesome.

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04 Nov 2007 08:10:01
ultimatewannabe
Re: New ballz, Gballz

KooKie wrote:
>
> Halloween's just past, and some rotten ass kids threw my gballz in a big
> fire.
>
> Great, just great.
>
> So, i need some new balls, and since i've recently started working on 7 i
> think i might try some smaller balls. Is this a good idea? What's the best
> size for numbers juggling? My current favourite is the
>
> Gballz Elite series 2 inch ==> http://www.gballz.com/elite_series.htm.
>
> Does size really matter? Or is it just what you do with it ^^.
>
> I'm sorry if this topic has been up here before, but i'm really serious
> and i've got noone else to turn to... snif
>
>


It is what you do with it.


You are juggling really small balls as it is right now. In general as you
progress to higher numbers you will end up with a set of smaller balls but
this doesn't happen for most people until after 7. Most jugglers use a
standard size for 3-7 and a smaller bag for 8+. You however already
juggle really small beanbags (The first time I flashed 10 I had 2.5 inch
balls) so I would strongly advise you not to go smaller. Juggling with
bigger heavier balls tend to lend itself to better form and more control
long term. My advise is to go bigger, at least 2.5" for learning 7 to
about 30 catches.

After 30ish catches I'd recommend switching to a bigger ball again because
that's what worked for me and several other people I've talked to. I
think that speeds the learning curve along to getting a really solid 7. I
worked on it for 10 months or so with 2.75" balls and then 8 months with
3" balls and I think there was a lot of accuracy that only came after I
switched.


Mike



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05 Nov 2007 10:08:50
fakoriginal
Re: New ballz, Gballz

Tim from Leeds wrote:
>
> Adam Rowney wrote:
> >
> > Ewano wrote:
> > >
> > > Ewano - wondering if Adam will be at Leeds..
> >
> > Adam - wishing he could be at leeds, or any other festival for that matter!
> >
>
> Tim - comes from Leeds, wants to be at Leeds, has exams at uni for one
> week after which term ends, and can't really justify the trip from Reading
> twice in a week.
>

You'll just have to settle for coming to the Reading juggling club in that
case:
http://www.juggler.net/Reading

fak - pimping


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06 Nov 2007 15:50:19
Tim from Leeds
Re: New ballz, Gballz

fakoriginal wrote:
>
> Tim from Leeds wrote:
> >
> > Adam Rowney wrote:
> > >
> > > Ewano wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ewano - wondering if Adam will be at Leeds..
> > >
> > > Adam - wishing he could be at leeds, or any other festival for that
matter!
> > >
> >
> > Tim - comes from Leeds, wants to be at Leeds, has exams at uni for one
> > week after which term ends, and can't really justify the trip from Reading
> > twice in a week.
> >
>
> You'll just have to settle for coming to the Reading juggling club in that
> case:
> http://www.juggler.net/Reading
>
> fak - pimping
>
>

I'd love to, but it clashes with church. There is talk at the uni circus
society about organising a trip up to Leeds though, so maybe I'll have my
arm twisted enough to go for it. We'll see.

Tim

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