28 Feb 2008 00:52:55
StraightDrive
Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England players - David Hopps

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relishing_b.html

Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after a
Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner Harbhajan
Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.

Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they have
taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
referees to instruct them to take stronger action.

But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthed
bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
field as well as on it.

It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.

But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthed
bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
field as well as on it.

It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.

Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
like that, let's bring that one on."

India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but Harbhajan
allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and international
teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."





28 Feb 2008 01:14:53
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after a
> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner Harbhajan
> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they have
> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthed
> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
> field as well as on it.
>
> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthed
> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
> field as well as on it.
>
> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but Harbhajan
> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and international
> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."



"The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
that says about them."
- Mark Ramprakash, England

"I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
that you accept and it's left on the field"

-Deepak Patel, New Zealand


28 Feb 2008 01:21:48
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 2:14 pm, xs...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
> international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
> that says about them."
> - Mark Ramprakash, England

color : brown

>
> "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
> lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
> happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
> worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
> that you accept and it's left on the field"
>
> -Deepak Patel, New Zealand

color : brown

"If you know me well you can have a joke to me about anything and any
part of racism and I will laugh. I am not sensitive about it, but if I
am not your friend, if you are an opposition player or something like
that, it is unacceptable"

-Symonds

"But it (racism) is one of those things that, in the modern day, is
obviously very publicly unacceptable"

-Symonds

This is all very confusing to me. Who are these friends of Symonds
making racist jokes? Hayden?


28 Feb 2008 01:25:06
StraightDrive
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England players - David Hopps


<xss11@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> wrote:
>> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>>
>> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after
>> a
>> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
>> Harbhajan
>> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
>> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>>
>> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
>> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
>> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
>> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
>> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they
>> have
>> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
>> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
>> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
>> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>>
>> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
>> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
>> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
>> loudmouthed
>> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
>> the
>> field as well as on it.
>>
>> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as
>> a
>> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
>> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>>
>> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
>> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
>> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
>> loudmouthed
>> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
>> the
>> field as well as on it.
>>
>> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as
>> a
>> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
>> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>>
>> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
>> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
>> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
>> like that, let's bring that one on."
>>
>> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
>> Harbhajan
>> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
>> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
>> international
>> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
>
>
> "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
> international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
> that says about them."
> - Mark Ramprakash, England
>
> "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
> lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
> happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
> worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
> that you accept and it's left on the field"
>
> -Deepak Patel, New Zealand



Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?


Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee)
Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
NZ players had problems with Australians
England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark Ramprakash n
others)
West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much so
McGrath
threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)

and still resident racist nazis alvey, will_s, CDK, Colin, Mango and the the
rest of the
hypocritic cunning lying rsc aussie pussies shamelessly attack Indian
players.





28 Feb 2008 01:30:26
StraightDrive
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England players - David Hopps


<xss11@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:bdf52220-f31f-4780-80a0-4e7ee0715b9c@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 2:14 pm, xs...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
>> international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
>> that says about them."
>> - Mark Ramprakash, England
>
> color : brown
>
>>
>> "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
>> lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
>> happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
>> worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
>> that you accept and it's left on the field"
>>
>> -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>
> color : brown
>
> "If you know me well you can have a joke to me about anything and any
> part of racism and I will laugh. I am not sensitive about it, but if I
> am not your friend, if you are an opposition player or something like
> that, it is unacceptable"
>
> -Symonds
>
> "But it (racism) is one of those things that, in the modern day, is
> obviously very publicly unacceptable"
>
> -Symonds
>
> This is all very confusing to me. Who are these friends of Symonds
> making racist jokes? Hayden?



Andrew Symonds publicly stated he was racially abused in school both
in England and Australia while growing up.

He even said he was racially abused by Australian players but he
doesnt mind since they are his friends which means he is a "house nigger"
from the "racist Australians point of view."









28 Feb 2008 02:45:35
Ernest_the_Sheep@hotmail.com
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 9:52=A0pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after a=

> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner Harbhajan=

> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they have=

> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthe=
d
> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the=

> field as well as on it.
>
> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a=

> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthe=
d
> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the=

> field as well as on it.
>
> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a=

> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but Harbhaja=
n
> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and internation=
al
> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."

Quite bizarre. Who is this pommy plonker Hopps? I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt for the moment and assume that he hasn't listened
to the interview himself. Some of those quotes don't appear 100
percent accurate so maybe he hasn't. Otherwise he's a tit of
monumental proportions.






28 Feb 2008 05:23:55
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 4:25 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> <xs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> > wrote:
> >>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> >> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after
> >> a
> >> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
> >> Harbhajan
> >> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
> >> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> >> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
> >> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
> >> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> >> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> >> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they
> >> have
> >> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> >> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
> >> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> >> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> loudmouthed
> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> the
> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as
> >> a
> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> loudmouthed
> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> the
> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as
> >> a
> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
> >> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
> >> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
> >> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> >> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
> >> Harbhajan
> >> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
> >> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
> >> international
> >> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
> > "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
> > international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
> > that says about them."
> > - Mark Ramprakash, England
>
> > "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
> > lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
> > happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
> > worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
> > that you accept and it's left on the field"
>
> > -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>
> Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?
>
> Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee)
> Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
> SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
> NZ players had problems with Australians
> England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark Ramprakash n
> others)
> West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much so
> McGrath
> threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)
>
> and still resident racist nazis alvey, will_s, CDK, Colin, Mango and the the
> rest of the
> hypocritic cunning lying rsc aussie pussies shamelessly attack Indian
> players.

Who is worse, the white trash Hayden, or the monkey jigaboo Simionds.
Did Simionds papa fuck Hayden's mommy?


28 Feb 2008 11:03:26
shineything
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 11:45 pm, "Ernest_the_Sh...@hotmail.com"
<Ernest_the_Sh...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 9:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> > Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after a
> > Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner Harbhajan
> > Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
> > young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> > Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
> > rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
> > their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> > controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> > Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they have
> > taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> > executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
> > clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> > referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> > But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> > cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> > on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthed
> > bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
> > field as well as on it.
>
> > It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
> > committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> > just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> > But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> > cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> > on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmouthed
> > bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
> > field as well as on it.
>
> > It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
> > committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> > just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> > Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
> > 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
> > bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
> > like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> > India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but Harbhajan
> > allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
> > ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and international
> > teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
> Quite bizarre. Who is this pommy plonker Hopps? I'll give him the
> benefit of the doubt for the moment and assume that he hasn't listened
> to the interview himself. Some of those quotes don't appear 100
> percent accurate so maybe he hasn't. Otherwise he's a tit of
> monumental proportions.

So come on then Sheep, enlighten us. Which statements exactly in
Hopps's article are "bizarre" or reveal him to be a "tit of
monumental proportions"? And which quotes "don't appear 100 percent
accurate"?


28 Feb 2008 12:45:48
Ernest_the_Sheep@hotmail.com
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 29, 8:03=A0am, shineything <shineyth...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 11:45 pm, "Ernest_the_Sh...@hotmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <Ernest_the_Sh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 28, 9:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis..=
.
>
> > > Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia aft=
er a
> > > Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner Harbh=
ajan
> > > Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spind=
ly,
> > > young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> > > Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack w=
as
> > > rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature =
of
> > > their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> > > controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> > > Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they =
have
> > > taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> > > executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure =
to
> > > clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> > > referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> > > But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to h=
ave
> > > cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgivi=
ng
> > > on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmo=
uthed
> > > bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off=
the
> > > field as well as on it.
>
> > > It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself =
as a
> > > committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He =
has
> > > just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> > > But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to h=
ave
> > > cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgivi=
ng
> > > on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a loudmo=
uthed
> > > bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off=
the
> > > field as well as on it.
>
> > > It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself =
as a
> > > committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He =
has
> > > just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> > > Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many time=
s,
> > > 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about =
his
> > > bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring=
. I
> > > like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> > > India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but Harb=
hajan
> > > allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging ma=
tch
> > > ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and interna=
tional
> > > teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
> > Quite bizarre. Who is this pommy plonker Hopps? I'll give him the
> > benefit of the doubt for the moment and assume that he hasn't listened
> > to the interview himself. Some of those quotes don't appear 100
> > percent accurate so maybe he hasn't. Otherwise he's a tit of
> > monumental proportions.
>
> So come on then Sheep, enlighten us. Which statements exactly in
> Hopps's article are "bizarre" or reveal him to be a =A0"tit of
> monumental proportions"? And which quotes "don't appear 100 percent
> accurate"?

For a start there is Hopps' reference to Hayden's religious beliefs.
Pretty pathetic really, and bizarre given that he is supposedly a
cricket writer of some repute. Apparently he has won awards and has
written books. Then there is his description of Hayden's comments on
Sharma as being in their way "more bizarre" than those on Harby. Now
they would be if Hayden was serious about wanting to take Sharma on in
the ring. But they were clearly said as a joke, as anyone in
possession of the slightest degree of social intelligence who listened
to the interview should have been able to tell. I'm not completely
sure of the background of the joke. Perhaps there had previously been
suggestions that Hayden might step into the ring like some other
sports stars have, or maybe it was just a dig at Sharma being of a
weedy physique, and Hayden fancying his chances with him more in the
ring than on the field. Whatever, you don't even need to get the joke,
that fact that it was clearly said in jest should be enough. The
suggestion that we was threatening Sharma is ridiculous.


Here's one Hayden quote from Hopps' blog

Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many
times, 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry
about his bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting
into the ring. I like that, let's bring that one on."

In fact Hayden was recounting the advice he had given to Sharma. The
(implied) quote "He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his bowling
for a while?" has been reworked for the article and could easily give
the impression that Hayden was whinging to the interviewer about
Sharma, especially to readers who have not heard the interview. The
precise words used by Hayden in the interview while recounting part of
his advice to Sharma were "but at the end of the day you're 19, what
about you just worry about your bowling for a while". According to
Hayden these were the words he said to Sharma. Patronising perhaps,
but clearly he was not whinging about Sharma to the interviewer. A
subtle point perhaps, but I'd expect any journalist with any
pretensions to credibility to take more care in the way they convey
such incidents to their readers.


Naturally I'll stand corrected on all this if Hayden decks Sharma in
the finals.







28 Feb 2008 17:11:21
sudha
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 4:25=A0am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> <xs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> > wrote:
> >>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...=

>
> >> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia afte=
r
> >> a
> >> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
> >> Harbhajan
> >> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindl=
y,
> >> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> >> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack wa=
s
> >> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature o=
f
> >> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> >> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> >> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they
> >> have
> >> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> >> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure t=
o
> >> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> >> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to ha=
ve
> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgivin=
g
> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> loudmouthed
> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> the
> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself a=
s
> >> a
> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He h=
as
> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to ha=
ve
> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgivin=
g
> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> loudmouthed
> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> the
> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself a=
s
> >> a
> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He h=
as
> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times=
,
> >> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about h=
is
> >> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring.=
I
> >> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> >> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
> >> Harbhajan
> >> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging mat=
ch
> >> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
> >> international
> >> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
> > "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
> > international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
> > that says about them."
> > - Mark Ramprakash, England
>
> > "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
> > lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
> > happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
> > worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
> > that you accept and it's left on the field"
>
> > -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>
> Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?
>
> Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee)
> Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
> SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
> NZ players had problems with Australians
> England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark Ramprakash=
n
> others)
> West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much so
> McGrath
> threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)
>
> and still resident racist nazis alvey, will_s, CDK, Colin, Mango and the t=
he
> rest of the
> hypocritic cunning lying rsc aussie pussies shamelessly attack Indian
> players.

Aussie players are pathetic jokers and everytime they opened their
mouth this summer they have shown how stupid they are. The latest is
the senior most cricketer taking on a 19 year old kid. It shows how
worried these Aussies are about their slipping position.



28 Feb 2008 21:59:33
Bob Dubery
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 28, 11:25 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> <xs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> > wrote:
> >>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> >> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after
> >> a
> >> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
> >> Harbhajan
> >> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
> >> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> >> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
> >> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
> >> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> >> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> >> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they
> >> have
> >> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> >> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
> >> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> >> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> loudmouthed
> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> the
> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as
> >> a
> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> loudmouthed
> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> the
> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as
> >> a
> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
> >> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
> >> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
> >> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> >> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
> >> Harbhajan
> >> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
> >> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
> >> international
> >> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
> > "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
> > international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
> > that says about them."
> > - Mark Ramprakash, England
>
> > "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
> > lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
> > happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
> > worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
> > that you accept and it's left on the field"
>
> > -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>
> Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?
>
> Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee)
In all fairness, lots of people had problems with three best batsmen
in Pakistan. Miandad was not exactly a shrinking violet.

> Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
> SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
> NZ players had problems with Australians
> England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark Ramprakash n
> others)
> West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much so
> McGrath
> threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)

Well I think you have to look at other situations. SA players are of
the opinion that NZ don't hold back on the sledging. SA under Cronje
had a certain disdain for two players in particular that they thought
could dish it out in spades but couldn't take their own medicine - and
one of those two was Ramps. Harby's disciplinary record does not
revolve only around matches involving Australia.

So if you pick only matches in which the opposition are Australia then
it's easy to chalk up lots of points against them. If you take a more
global view then I don't believe Australia become more saintly, but
other teams start to look less so.



29 Feb 2008 00:23:30
StraightDrive
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England players - David Hopps


"Bob Dubery" <megapode@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:0940d5c1-a6a3-4c9c-b7c7-16d63263bc9d@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 11:25 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> wrote:
>> <xs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>>
>> >> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia
>> >> after
>> >> a
>> >> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
>> >> Harbhajan
>> >> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their
>> >> spindly,
>> >> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>>
>> >> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack
>> >> was
>> >> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature
>> >> of
>> >> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
>> >> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
>> >> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they
>> >> have
>> >> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
>> >> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure
>> >> to
>> >> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
>> >> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>>
>> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to
>> >> have
>> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most
>> >> unforgiving
>> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
>> >> loudmouthed
>> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
>> >> the
>> >> field as well as on it.
>>
>> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself
>> >> as
>> >> a
>> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He
>> >> has
>> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>>
>> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to
>> >> have
>> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most
>> >> unforgiving
>> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
>> >> loudmouthed
>> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
>> >> the
>> >> field as well as on it.
>>
>> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself
>> >> as
>> >> a
>> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He
>> >> has
>> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>>
>> >> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many
>> >> times,
>> >> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about
>> >> his
>> >> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the
>> >> ring. I
>> >> like that, let's bring that one on."
>>
>> >> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
>> >> Harbhajan
>> >> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging
>> >> match
>> >> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
>> >> international
>> >> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>>
>> > "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
>> > international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
>> > that says about them."
>> > - Mark Ramprakash, England
>>
>> > "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
>> > lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
>> > happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
>> > worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
>> > that you accept and it's left on the field"
>>
>> > -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>>
>> Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?
>>
>> Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee)
> In all fairness, lots of people had problems with three best batsmen
> in Pakistan. Miandad was not exactly a shrinking violet.
>
>> Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
>> SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
>> NZ players had problems with Australians
>> England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark
>> Ramprakash n
>> others)
>> West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much so
>> McGrath
>> threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)
>
> Well I think you have to look at other situations. SA players are of
> the opinion that NZ don't hold back on the sledging. SA under Cronje
> had a certain disdain for two players in particular that they thought
> could dish it out in spades but couldn't take their own medicine - and
> one of those two was Ramps.


Did other teams like SL, India, Pak, WI had problems with Ramps ?
My guess is no unlike this Aussie Sissy Hayden and his fellow Aussies
universally hated.



>Harby's disciplinary record does not
> revolve only around matches involving Australia.


I fully support Harbhajan reacting when he gets abused. 1 billion
Indians MUST support Harbhajan since he is the only one who
can take on the cunning Aussies.



> So if you pick only matches in which the opposition are Australia then
> it's easy to chalk up lots of points against them. If you take a more
> global view then I don't believe Australia become more saintly, but
> other teams start to look less so.


Other teams had problems but they are within reasonable range unlike
the fucking Aussie pussies who takes the fun out of the actual game with
all sorts of distractions.

BCCI must change the ICC rules and rein in the cunning Aussies.





29 Feb 2008 00:27:54
StraightDrive
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England players - David Hopps


<Ernest_the_Sheep@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:932659bb-36e5-4932-b854-ecc7a0957ae6@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 28, 9:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia after a
> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner Harbhajan
> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their spindly,
> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack was
> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature of
> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they have
> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure to
> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> loudmouthed
> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
> field as well as on it.
>
> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to have
> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most unforgiving
> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> loudmouthed
> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off the
> field as well as on it.
>
> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself as a
> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He has
> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many times,
> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about his
> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the ring. I
> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
> Harbhajan
> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging match
> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
> international
> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."

>>Quite bizarre. Who is this pommy plonker Hopps? I'll give him the
>>benefit of the doubt for the moment and assume that he hasn't listened
>>to the interview himself. Some of those quotes don't appear 100
>>percent accurate so maybe he hasn't. Otherwise he's a tit of
>>monumental proportions.



David Hopps got it right again. The whole world of England, West Indies,
NZ, SL and even India hating Pak columnists and commentators supported
India in Sydney test won by Australian cheats, backstabbers and incompetent
and cheating umpires.

You Aussie pussies can shout all you want but you are the most hated and
worst behaved team in cricket.






29 Feb 2008 00:28:56
Bob Dubery
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England

On Feb 29, 10:23 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com >
wrote:
> "Bob Dubery" <megap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0940d5c1-a6a3-4c9c-b7c7-16d63263bc9d@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 11:25 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> > wrote:
> >> <xs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>
> >> >> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia
> >> >> after
> >> >> a
> >> >> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
> >> >> Harbhajan
> >> >> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their
> >> >> spindly,
> >> >> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>
> >> >> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal attack
> >> >> was
> >> >> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient nature
> >> >> of
> >> >> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that a
> >> >> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
> >> >> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and they
> >> >> have
> >> >> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC chief
> >> >> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian pressure
> >> >> to
> >> >> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and match
> >> >> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>
> >> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to
> >> >> have
> >> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most
> >> >> unforgiving
> >> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> >> loudmouthed
> >> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> >> the
> >> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself
> >> >> as
> >> >> a
> >> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He
> >> >> has
> >> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem to
> >> >> have
> >> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most
> >> >> unforgiving
> >> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
> >> >> loudmouthed
> >> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents off
> >> >> the
> >> >> field as well as on it.
>
> >> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about himself
> >> >> as
> >> >> a
> >> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist. He
> >> >> has
> >> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>
> >> >> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many
> >> >> times,
> >> >> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry about
> >> >> his
> >> >> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the
> >> >> ring. I
> >> >> like that, let's bring that one on."
>
> >> >> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
> >> >> Harbhajan
> >> >> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging
> >> >> match
> >> >> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
> >> >> international
> >> >> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>
> >> > "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
> >> > international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure what
> >> > that says about them."
> >> > - Mark Ramprakash, England
>
> >> > "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
> >> > lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
> >> > happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
> >> > worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
> >> > that you accept and it's left on the field"
>
> >> > -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>
> >> Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?
>
> >> Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee)
> > In all fairness, lots of people had problems with three best batsmen
> > in Pakistan. Miandad was not exactly a shrinking violet.
>
> >> Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
> >> SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
> >> NZ players had problems with Australians
> >> England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark
> >> Ramprakash n
> >> others)
> >> West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much so
> >> McGrath
> >> threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)
>
> > Well I think you have to look at other situations. SA players are of
> > the opinion that NZ don't hold back on the sledging. SA under Cronje
> > had a certain disdain for two players in particular that they thought
> > could dish it out in spades but couldn't take their own medicine - and
> > one of those two was Ramps.
>
> Did other teams like SL, India, Pak, WI had problems with Ramps ?
> My guess is no unlike this Aussie Sissy Hayden and his fellow Aussies
> universally hated.
>
> >Harby's disciplinary record does not
> > revolve only around matches involving Australia.
>
> I fully support Harbhajan reacting when he gets abused. 1 billion
> Indians MUST support Harbhajan since he is the only one who
> can take on the cunning Aussies.
>
> > So if you pick only matches in which the opposition are Australia then
> > it's easy to chalk up lots of points against them. If you take a more
> > global view then I don't believe Australia become more saintly, but
> > other teams start to look less so.
>
> Other teams had problems but they are within reasonable range unlike
> the fucking Aussie pussies who takes the fun out of the actual game with
> all sorts of distractions.
>
> BCCI must change the ICC rules and rein in the cunning Aussies.

Well when you express things that sensibly...


29 Feb 2008 00:55:23
StraightDrive
Re: Remorseless Hayden is a loudmouthed bully per many England players - David Hopps


"Bob Dubery" <megapode@gmail.com > wrote in message
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> On Feb 29, 10:23 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
> wrote:
>> "Bob Dubery" <megap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0940d5c1-a6a3-4c9c-b7c7-16d63263bc9d@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 28, 11:25 am, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> <xs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:fb00ae94-edeb-42ac-92cc-525c2e76b515@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Feb 28, 1:52 pm, "StraightDrive" <StraightDr...@Tendulkar.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/02/27/remorseless_hayden_relis...
>>
>> >> >> Matthew Hayden has escaped with a reprimand from Cricket Australia
>> >> >> after
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> Brisbane radio interview in which he vilified the Indian spinner
>> >> >> Harbhajan
>> >> >> Singh as an "obnoxious weed" and happily imagined teaching their
>> >> >> spindly,
>> >> >> young fast bowler, Ishant Sharma, a lesson in the boxing ring.
>>
>> >> >> Cricket Australia's reaction to Hayden's extraordinary verbal
>> >> >> attack
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> rapid, with punishment meted out within a day, but the lenient
>> >> >> nature
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> their sentence will further antogonise the Indians and ensure that
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> controversial tour ends with recriminations on all sides.
>> >> >> Australia's sledging culture has insulted Indian self-esteem and
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> taken a stand which could yet have long-term ramifications. ICC
>> >> >> chief
>> >> >> executives meeting in Kuala Lumpur last week bowed to Indian
>> >> >> pressure
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> clamp down on on-field abuse. The ICC is writing to umpires and
>> >> >> match
>> >> >> referees to instruct them to take stronger action.
>>
>> >> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most
>> >> >> unforgiving
>> >> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
>> >> >> loudmouthed
>> >> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents
>> >> >> off
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> field as well as on it.
>>
>> >> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about
>> >> >> himself
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist.
>> >> >> He
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>>
>> >> >> But if the cricket world really is changing, Hayden does not seem
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> cottoned on. He revels in his reputation as Australia's most
>> >> >> unforgiving
>> >> >> on-field sledger - many England players privately view him as a
>> >> >> loudmouthed
>> >> >> bully - and now it seems that he intends to rubbish some opponents
>> >> >> off
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> field as well as on it.
>>
>> >> >> It is striking behaviour from a man who talks regularly about
>> >> >> himself
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> committed Christian; presumably more fundamentalist than pacifist.
>> >> >> He
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> just won an award as Australia's best one-day player of the year.
>>
>> >> >> Hayden said of Ishant: "He is just young. I have said to him many
>> >> >> times,
>> >> >> 'You are 19, take it easy'. He is 19, why doesn't he just worry
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> his
>> >> >> bowling for a while? I like the idea of actually getting into the
>> >> >> ring. I
>> >> >> like that, let's bring that one on."
>>
>> >> >> India's players were officially instructed to show restraint, but
>> >> >> Harbhajan
>> >> >> allowed himself some retaliation: "I don't want it to be a slanging
>> >> >> match
>> >> >> ... but you only need to speak to international cricketers and
>> >> >> international
>> >> >> teams to know in what opinion they hold Hayden."
>>
>> >> > "The only time I've suffered any abuse of a serious racial kind in
>> >> > international cricket is against the Australians so I'm not sure
>> >> > what
>> >> > that says about them."
>> >> > - Mark Ramprakash, England
>>
>> >> > "I'm not saying that he (Harbhajan) is not guilty but there's been a
>> >> > lot worse said by Australians in the past to other opposition. What
>> >> > happens on the park should stay on the park. I've been called a lot
>> >> > worse than a monkey, to be honest with you, and it's just something
>> >> > that you accept and it's left on the field"
>>
>> >> > -Deepak Patel, New Zealand
>>
>> >> Isnt Mark RamPrakash half White, half Indian ?
>>
>> >> Pakistanis had problems with Australians (Javed Miandad vs Dennis
>> >> Lillee)
>> > In all fairness, lots of people had problems with three best batsmen
>> > in Pakistan. Miandad was not exactly a shrinking violet.
>>
>> >> Indians have problems with Australians (Harbhajan, Ishant)
>> >> SriLankans had problems with Australians (Murali, Jayasuriya)
>> >> NZ players had problems with Australians
>> >> England players think Australia is the worst behaved team (Mark
>> >> Ramprakash n
>> >> others)
>> >> West Indies had problems with Australians (McGrath vs Sarwan so much
>> >> so
>> >> McGrath
>> >> threatens to slit Sarwan's throat)
>>
>> > Well I think you have to look at other situations. SA players are of
>> > the opinion that NZ don't hold back on the sledging. SA under Cronje
>> > had a certain disdain for two players in particular that they thought
>> > could dish it out in spades but couldn't take their own medicine - and
>> > one of those two was Ramps.
>>
>> Did other teams like SL, India, Pak, WI had problems with Ramps ?
>> My guess is no unlike this Aussie Sissy Hayden and his fellow Aussies
>> universally hated.
>>
>> >Harby's disciplinary record does not
>> > revolve only around matches involving Australia.
>>
>> I fully support Harbhajan reacting when he gets abused. 1 billion
>> Indians MUST support Harbhajan since he is the only one who
>> can take on the cunning Aussies.
>>
>> > So if you pick only matches in which the opposition are Australia then
>> > it's easy to chalk up lots of points against them. If you take a more
>> > global view then I don't believe Australia become more saintly, but
>> > other teams start to look less so.
>>
>> Other teams had problems but they are within reasonable range unlike
>> the fucking Aussie pussies who takes the fun out of the actual game with
>> all sorts of distractions.
>>
>> BCCI must change the ICC rules and rein in the cunning Aussies.
>
> Well when you express things that sensibly...



My comments are always sensible, sometimes you get it sometimes you dont.

Most of the ICC rules regarding abuses on the field were made by the western
countries Eng and Aus.

This is 2008 and things have changed drastically over decades.

Majority of the cricket revenues are derived from India and Pak and majority
of
cricket audience (TV) reside in India and Pak.

BCCI must force ICC to change the rules accordingly to accomodate
the subcontinentals. It is called "democracy" in the west in case you
dont know :-))