28 Feb 2008 19:23:20
Dave -Turner
Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.

Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
retire now?
You have become old and can't even run".

Did he use any profanities? No.

Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.

Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.

In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
common sense usually prevails.

HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
farce.




28 Feb 2008 02:36:18
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
> common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.

who goes to the umpires crying everytime ?


28 Feb 2008 02:37:12
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:23=A0pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. =A0It's as ridiculous a=
s it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't yo=
u
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it becaus=
e
> common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.

Any comment against Indian or Pakistani cricketers by Aussies, Poms or
Sith Ifrican's is obviously racist in nature - how can't you
understand that?

Clarke saying Sachin was too old was an obvious dig at the fact that
people who aren't white age quicker than white people.... Sheesh open
your eyes

Thank god the guy that operates my local Mitre 10 isn't an Indian....
I don't know what I'd say on the weekend when I go in to buy some
Round Up - would be "you buying this to get rid of all the obnoxious
Harbs in your garden are you?"

Weak as dish water the lot of them



28 Feb 2008 02:39:32
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.

What have you been smoking. Wherever was a demand made about Clarke's
suspension ? The idiot can stick his inane sledging. Who cares - not
in the least Tendulkar.


28 Feb 2008 02:42:19
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.

It is, with the noble exception of curling and darts.

Btw, just a reminder that women do play cricket as well. And whine
less than you do.



28 Feb 2008 02:47:44
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:42=A0pm, "bongopon...@gmail.com" <bongopon...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
> > It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> > opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. =A0It's as ridiculous=
as it
> > is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> It is, with the noble exception of curling and darts.
>
> Btw, just a reminder that women do play cricket as well. And whine
> less than you do.

Haven't heard much about the Indian Women's team - do they have one?
I bet they will cry just as much as their male team ROFL


28 Feb 2008 02:56:05
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:47 pm, JohnM...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:42 pm, "bongopon...@gmail.com" <bongopon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 28, 8:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
> > > It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> > > opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> > > is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> > It is, with the noble exception of curling and darts.
>
> > Btw, just a reminder that women do play cricket as well. And whine
> > less than you do.
>
> Haven't heard much about the Indian Women's team - do they have one?
> I bet they will cry just as much as their male team ROFL

Wouldnt expect ignorant sexist idiots like you to know much.


28 Feb 2008 19:58:09
Dave -Turner
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

> who goes to the umpires crying everytime ?

India, why ?




28 Feb 2008 19:59:21
Dave -Turner
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

> What have you been smoking. Wherever was a demand made about Clarke's
> suspension ?
Here, on this newsgroup. Perhaps you should stop smoking and read more
threads.




28 Feb 2008 03:00:10
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:58 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> > who goes to the umpires crying everytime ?
>
> India, why ?

and ricky ponting plays for India. Name one instance India has gone to
the *umpire* complaining about sledging. Like I said, keep dreaming up
your fantasy world.


28 Feb 2008 20:08:54
Dave -Turner
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

> Name one instance India has gone to
> the *umpire* complaining about sledging.
hahaha, I like it how you SPECIFIED "complaining about SLEDGING" so as to
keep it seperate from all the other complaints that the Indian team makes.




28 Feb 2008 03:12:30
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 8:59 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> > What have you been smoking. Wherever was a demand made about Clarke's
> > suspension ?
>
> Here, on this newsgroup. Perhaps you should stop smoking and read more
> threads.

Since you read so much more, perhaps youd be kind enough to point to
it )if it does exist at all). There is one thread about Clarke sleding
Tendulkar and that has nothing about wanting him suspended.


28 Feb 2008 03:14:53
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 9:08 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> > Name one instance India has gone to
> > the *umpire* complaining about sledging.
>
> hahaha, I like it how you SPECIFIED "complaining about SLEDGING" so as to
> keep it seperate from all the other complaints that the Indian team makes.

no shit, you can read. btw, i specified *umpires* not sledging. :) and
yes we have complained about sledging, just like the aussies have
whined on about harbhajan.


28 Feb 2008 22:45:54
Rod
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:42:19 -0800 (PST), "bongopondit@gmail.com"
<bongopondit@gmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 28, 8:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
>> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
>> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
>It is, with the noble exception of curling and darts.
>
>Btw, just a reminder that women do play cricket as well. And whine
>less than you do.

After seeing a few scorecards recently, they don't spend enough
time in the field to sledge the opposition. ;)

Cheers,
Rod.


28 Feb 2008 10:39:52
shineything
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 11:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
> common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.

I agree with this. But I'm not sure you agree with yourself. Where,
for instance, was your concern about making-mountains-out-of-molehills
when Harbajhan ostensibly called Symonds a monkey?


28 Feb 2008 10:59:55
JD
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 5:23=A0am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. =A0It's as ridiculous a=
s it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't yo=
u
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it becaus=
e
> common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.

Absolutely. Just like Ricky Cheating should have when bhajji called
the monkey a monkey instead of running to the umpire like a sissy-soft
'girl'. Maybe bhajji should call the monkey a gorilla during the
finals and see if Cheating and Hayden act like men or girls this time
around.

cheers,
JD


28 Feb 2008 12:21:31
arahim
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 2:23=A0am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. =A0It's as ridiculous a=
s it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't yo=
u
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>

How is pointing the batsman to the pavillion any worse than this? Yet
that gets fined. Do people really beleive pointing the batsman to the
pavillion really worse than advising them to retire because of their
old age and non running ability?

> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it becaus=
e
> common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.



28 Feb 2008 12:23:33
Brijesh
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
> common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.

Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
little thing. How come no one else complains when playing for india?
Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say on
field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.

Not so when crybaby Ponting plays


29 Feb 2008 07:25:09
Rod
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:21:31 -0800 (PST), arahim
<arahim_arahim@hotmail.com > wrote:

>How is pointing the batsman to the pavillion any worse than this? Yet
>that gets fined. Do people really beleive pointing the batsman to the
>pavillion really worse than advising them to retire because of their
>old age and non running ability?

No, and that's the ridiculous part about it.

Cheers,
Rod.


29 Feb 2008 08:28:58
Ian Galbraith
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), shineything wrote:

> On Feb 28, 11:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
>> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
>> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>>
>> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
>> retire now?
>> You have become old and can't even run".
>>
>> Did he use any profanities? No.
>>
>> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>>
>> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>>
>> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
>> common sense usually prevails.
>>
>> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
>> farce.
>
> I agree with this. But I'm not sure you agree with yourself. Where,
> for instance, was your concern about making-mountains-out-of-molehills
> when Harbajhan ostensibly called Symonds a monkey?

Um because its racist, there is a fundamental difference.

And yes I realise you don't understand why it is racist but you must
surely understand that others think it is racist.

--
"Life has meaning only in the struggle. Triumph or defeat are in the
hands of the Gods, so let us celebrate the struggle." - Swahili war chant


28 Feb 2008 13:33:30
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 29, 7:28 am, Ian Galbraith <m...@privacy.net > wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), shineything wrote:
> > On Feb 28, 11:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
> >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
> >> retire now?
> >> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
> >> common sense usually prevails.
>
> >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> >> farce.
>
> > I agree with this. But I'm not sure you agree with yourself. Where,
> > for instance, was your concern about making-mountains-out-of-molehills
> > when Harbajhan ostensibly called Symonds a monkey?
>
> Um because its racist, there is a fundamental difference.
>
> And yes I realise you don't understand why it is racist but you must
> surely understand that others think it is racist.
>

Not everyone seems to understand that there could be different
perspectives in racism. Few Indians are saying: monkey = not racist
(although what the section of the Mumbai crowd was doing was clearly
racist). Aussies are saying, Hayden mocking Ishant =not racist.

So where do we draw the line ? There can't be a moral absolute here.



> --
> "Life has meaning only in the struggle. Triumph or defeat are in the
> hands of the Gods, so let us celebrate the struggle." - Swahili war chant



29 Feb 2008 09:38:45
dechucka
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?


"Brijesh" <brijesh.khergamker@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:7d4ee489-1bc3-4481-bef1-faf4753261c4@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
>> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as
>> it
>> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>>
>> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't
>> you
>> retire now?
>> You have become old and can't even run".
>>
>> Did he use any profanities? No.
>>
>> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>>
>> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>>
>> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
>> because
>> common sense usually prevails.
>>
>> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
>> farce.
>
> Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
> little thing.

They reported a racist remark as ordered to do so by the ICC

>How come no one else complains when playing for india?

because you have the BCCI to threaten to withdraw from tours

> Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say on
> field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.
>
> Not so when crybaby Ponting plays

You have a cricket board who threaten to take the Australian's bat and ball
and go home if they don't have their own way. sorry Indian cricket is a
bunch of softcocks




28 Feb 2008 14:51:45
Brijesh
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 2:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:
> "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7d4ee489-1bc3-4481-bef1-faf4753261c4@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
> >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as
> >> it
> >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't
> >> you
> >> retire now?
> >> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
> >> because
> >> common sense usually prevails.
>
> >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> >> farce.
>
> > Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
> > little thing.
>
> They reported a racist remark as ordered to do so by the ICC
>
> >How come no one else complains when playing for india?
>
> because you have the BCCI to threaten to withdraw from tours
>
> > Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say on
> > field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.
>
> > Not so when crybaby Ponting plays
>
> You have a cricket board who threaten to take the Australian's bat and ball
> and go home if they don't have their own way. sorry Indian cricket is a
> bunch of softcocks

Dont be sorry at your IQ.. its God given. Talk to Hayden.. hes a
Christian he'll tell you not to feel bad about God given things.


29 Feb 2008 10:02:32
dechucka
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?


"Brijesh" <brijesh.khergamker@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:d4993582-1696-43ef-b982-0e040bdafdc5@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 2:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7d4ee489-1bc3-4481-bef1-faf4753261c4@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having
>> >> the
>> >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous
>> >> as
>> >> it
>> >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>>
>> >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why
>> >> don't
>> >> you
>> >> retire now?
>> >> You have become old and can't even run".
>>
>> >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>>
>> >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>>
>> >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>>
>> >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
>> >> because
>> >> common sense usually prevails.
>>
>> >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an
>> >> absolute
>> >> farce.
>>
>> > Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
>> > little thing.
>>
>> They reported a racist remark as ordered to do so by the ICC
>>
>> >How come no one else complains when playing for india?
>>
>> because you have the BCCI to threaten to withdraw from tours
>>
>> > Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say on
>> > field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.
>>
>> > Not so when crybaby Ponting plays
>>
>> You have a cricket board who threaten to take the Australian's bat and
>> ball
>> and go home if they don't have their own way. sorry Indian cricket is a
>> bunch of softcocks
>
> Dont be sorry at your IQ.. its God given.

I don't beleive in god but am glad that unlike you I have an IQ in within
the 3 figure range

+Talk to Hayden.. hes a
> Christian he'll tell you not to feel bad about God given things.

Given the attitude of the BCCI it is no wonder that Indian cricket is the
way it is




28 Feb 2008 15:07:40
bongopondit@gmail.com
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 29, 9:02 am, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:
> "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d4993582-1696-43ef-b982-0e040bdafdc5@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:7d4ee489-1bc3-4481-bef1-faf4753261c4@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
> >> >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having
> >> >> the
> >> >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous
> >> >> as
> >> >> it
> >> >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> >> >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why
> >> >> don't
> >> >> you
> >> >> retire now?
> >> >> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> >> >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> >> >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> >> >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> >> >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
> >> >> because
> >> >> common sense usually prevails.
>
> >> >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an
> >> >> absolute
> >> >> farce.
>
> >> > Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
> >> > little thing.
>
> >> They reported a racist remark as ordered to do so by the ICC
>
> >> >How come no one else complains when playing for india?
>
> >> because you have the BCCI to threaten to withdraw from tours
>
> >> > Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say on
> >> > field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.
>
> >> > Not so when crybaby Ponting plays
>
> >> You have a cricket board who threaten to take the Australian's bat and
> >> ball
> >> and go home if they don't have their own way. sorry Indian cricket is a
> >> bunch of softcocks
>
> > Dont be sorry at your IQ.. its God given.
>
> I don't beleive in god but am glad that unlike you I have an IQ in within
> the 3 figure range
>

thank FSM for small mercies.



> Given the attitude of the BCCI it is no wonder that Indian cricket is the
> way it is


BCCI is shit - every Indian agrees. CA or the Aussie players havent
covered themselves in glory either.


29 Feb 2008 10:18:02
dechucka
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?


<bongopondit@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:66bd0178-c92a-4515-9d9c-7022f717c274@p43g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 29, 9:02 am, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:d4993582-1696-43ef-b982-0e040bdafdc5@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 28, 2:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:7d4ee489-1bc3-4481-bef1-faf4753261c4@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> >> >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as
>> >> >> ridiculous
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all
>> >> >> sports.
>>
>> >> >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> retire now?
>> >> >> You have become old and can't even run".
>>
>> >> >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>>
>> >> >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>>
>> >> >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>>
>> >> >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> common sense usually prevails.
>>
>> >> >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an
>> >> >> absolute
>> >> >> farce.
>>
>> >> > Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
>> >> > little thing.
>>
>> >> They reported a racist remark as ordered to do so by the ICC
>>
>> >> >How come no one else complains when playing for india?
>>
>> >> because you have the BCCI to threaten to withdraw from tours
>>
>> >> > Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say
>> >> > on
>> >> > field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.
>>
>> >> > Not so when crybaby Ponting plays
>>
>> >> You have a cricket board who threaten to take the Australian's bat and
>> >> ball
>> >> and go home if they don't have their own way. sorry Indian cricket is
>> >> a
>> >> bunch of softcocks
>>
>> > Dont be sorry at your IQ.. its God given.
>>
>> I don't beleive in god but am glad that unlike you I have an IQ in within
>> the 3 figure range
>>
>
> thank FSM for small mercies.

FSM?

>
>
>
>> Given the attitude of the BCCI it is no wonder that Indian cricket is the
>> way it is
>
>
> BCCI is shit - every Indian agrees. CA or the Aussie players havent
> covered themselves in glory either.

agreed




28 Feb 2008 15:48:04
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 5:51 pm, Brijesh <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 2:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Brijesh" <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:7d4ee489-1bc3-4481-bef1-faf4753261c4@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 28, 2:23 am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
> > >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> > >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as
> > >> it
> > >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> > >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't
> > >> you
> > >> retire now?
> > >> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> > >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> > >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> > >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> > >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
> > >> because
> > >> common sense usually prevails.
>
> > >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> > >> farce.
>
> > > Yeah.. tell that to Symonds and Ponting who complain for every tiny
> > > little thing.
>
> > They reported a racist remark as ordered to do so by the ICC
>
> > >How come no one else complains when playing for india?
>
> > because you have the BCCI to threaten to withdraw from tours
>
> > > Classic case: Gambhir versus Afridi. They said what they had to say on
> > > field and let it rest at that. No complaints nothign.
>
> > > Not so when crybaby Ponting plays
>
> > You have a cricket board who threaten to take the Australian's bat and ball
> > and go home if they don't have their own way. sorry Indian cricket is a
> > bunch of softcocks
>
> Dont be sorry at your IQ.. its God given. Talk to Hayden.. hes a
> Christian he'll tell you not to feel bad about God given things.

ROTFLMAO!!!!


29 Feb 2008 11:02:33
will_s
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?


"Dave -Turner" <no@no.no > wrote in message
news:13sd2sqaugeqi36@corp.supernews.com...

A pretty spot on description of Indian cricket and India in general



28 Feb 2008 16:19:14
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 28, 2:23=A0am, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no > wrote:
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. =A0It's as ridiculous a=
s it
> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't yo=
u
> retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>

Can you refer to us any one post here (or anywhere) where someone has
said that Clarke should be suspended for this comment?

In fact, your first paragraph seems to imply that Team India (as
opposed to some nutty RSC'er) wants Clarke suspended. Any evidence in
support of that assertion?

Of course, there is nothing offensive about this sledge. Well, it's
silly and not humorous in the least. But certainly not offensive.



28 Feb 2008 17:08:19
shineything
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a

On Feb 29, 10:28 am, Ian Galbraith <m...@privacy.net > wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:39:52 -0800 (PST), shineything wrote:
> > On Feb 28, 11:23 pm, "Dave -Turner" <n...@no.no> wrote:
> >> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> >> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as it
> >> is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> >> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't you
> >> retire now?
> >> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> >> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> >> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> >> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> >> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it because
> >> common sense usually prevails.
>
> >> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> >> farce.
>
> > I agree with this. But I'm not sure you agree with yourself. Where,
> > for instance, was your concern about making-mountains-out-of-molehills
> > when Harbajhan ostensibly called Symonds a monkey?
>
> Um because its racist, there is a fundamental difference.

Bollocks. One describes another person as a plant, the other as an
animal. It's complete nonsense to describe one as 'racist' and the
other as not. The only difference I can see (and it pains me to say
this) is that one was uttered by an Australian and one by an Indian.
>
> And yes I realise you don't understand why it is racist but you must
> surely understand that others think it is racist.
>
Oh, I understand all right. And I'm doing my best to educate them :)


29 Feb 2008 17:07:31
FiLtHy
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?


"Dave -Turner" <no@no.no > wrote in message
news:13sd2sqaugeqi36@corp.supernews.com...
> It seems you can't say anything on the field anymore without having the
> opposition demanding for suspensions and bans etc. It's as ridiculous as
> it is pathetic, and it makes cricket look like the weakest of all sports.
>
> Today for example we've got people crying over Clarke saying "Why don't
> you retire now?
> You have become old and can't even run".
>
> Did he use any profanities? No.
>
> Did he say anything discriminatory or racist? No.
>
> Yet we've got Indian supporters demanding he be at least suspended.
>
> In any other sporting code nothing would've even been said about it
> because common sense usually prevails.
>
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP YOU GIRLS. You're making cricket look like an absolute
> farce.
>
>

Typical of WhingeIndians




29 Feb 2008 17:08:52
Ian Galbraith
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:08:19 -0800 (PST), shineything wrote:

> On Feb 29, 10:28 am, Ian Galbraith <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

[snip]

>> Um because its racist, there is a fundamental difference.
>
> Bollocks. One describes another person as a plant, the other as an
> animal. It's complete nonsense to describe one as 'racist' and the
> other as not. The only difference I can see (and it pains me to say
> this) is that one was uttered by an Australian and one by an Indian.

Like I said you don't understand it.

>> And yes I realise you don't understand why it is racist but you must
>> surely understand that others think it is racist.
>>
> Oh, I understand all right.

If you understand that Symonds thinks it is racist then you surely must
understand why he reacted to it.

> And I'm doing my best to educate them :)

Educate who? We don't matter, its Symonds who thinks its racist.

--
"When I get a little money, I buy books. If any is left, I buy food and
clothes." - Erasmus


29 Feb 2008 18:05:37
Rod
Re: Is cricket becoming a sport for women, and is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:08:19 -0800 (PST), shineything
<shineything@yahoo.com > wrote:

>> > I agree with this. But I'm not sure you agree with yourself. Where,
>> > for instance, was your concern about making-mountains-out-of-molehills
>> > when Harbajhan ostensibly called Symonds a monkey?
>>
>> Um because its racist, there is a fundamental difference.
>
>Bollocks. One describes another person as a plant, the other as an
>animal. It's complete nonsense to describe one as 'racist' and the
>other as not. The only difference I can see (and it pains me to say
>this) is that one was uttered by an Australian and one by an Indian.

It was clearly stated before the tour that calling Symonds a monkey
was considered a racist slur. Being called an obnoxious weed in
Australia would imply you're a cretin, no racist tone about it.

If cultural biases came into play and after being called it, Hayden
was advised that in India, being called an obnoxious weed equates
to a racist slur, and he used it again... then you can lay down
the racist card on the table and have the book thrown at him.

Cheers,
Rod.