27 Feb 2008 22:28:07
dechucka
Good on cricket Australia

Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia and
Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached




27 Feb 2008 04:22:25
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 27, 10:28=A0pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:
> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia an=
d
> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached

sad mate.

cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.


27 Feb 2008 04:38:36
Groundhog
Re: Good on cricket Australia



gergogr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 10:28=EF=BF=BDpm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:=

> > Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> > inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia =
and
> > Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by chargin=
g
> > Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
> sad mate.
>
> cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.

Actually, BCCI reaction has been rather muted in this episode.


27 Feb 2008 13:36:19
Cicero
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Groundhog" <ramji.nc@netzero.net > wrote in message
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gergogr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 10:28�pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
> > Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> > inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
> > and
> > Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
> > charging
> > Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
> sad mate.
>
> cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.

Actually, BCCI reaction has been rather muted in this episode.

Found guilty but no penalty. Nor should there have been.



27 Feb 2008 06:05:37
Groundhog
Re: Good on cricket Australia



Cicero wrote:
> "Groundhog" <ramji.nc@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:e6c6a009-a111-4f5f-b912-e5ce62141704@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> gergogr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 27, 10:28=EF=BF=BDpm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrot=
e:
> > > Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totall=
y
> > > inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australi=
a
> > > and
> > > Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
> > > charging
> > > Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
> >
> > sad mate.
> >
> > cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.
>
> Actually, BCCI reaction has been rather muted in this episode.
>
> Found guilty but no penalty. Nor should there have been.

The statement after was very lame though. "I had no intention to
denigrate anyone" ?
Hmmm... I wonder who is buying that BS


28 Feb 2008 08:56:13
will_s
Re: Good on cricket Australia


<gergogreen@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:fe6a6e41-df28-4359-aa3f-e6afe37d776b@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 27, 10:28 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:
> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
> and
> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached

sad mate.

cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.



hey bullshit artist would you like to prove that statement ?

Nah, didnt think so



28 Feb 2008 08:58:45
will_s
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Cicero" <moofie53@bigpond.net.au > wrote in message
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>
> "Groundhog" <ramji.nc@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:e6c6a009-a111-4f5f-b912-e5ce62141704@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> gergogr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 10:28�pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>> > inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>> > and
>> > Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>> > charging
>> > Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>>
>> sad mate.
>>
>> cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.
>
> Actually, BCCI reaction has been rather muted in this episode.

Well they have now lost there we will pack our bags and go home threats.

>
> Found guilty but no penalty. Nor should there have been.

Agreed



28 Feb 2008 08:09:51
Calvin
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com >
wrote:

> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
> and
> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached

But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have been
a penalty.

--

cheers,
calvin


28 Feb 2008 09:21:50
Luke O'Zade
Re: Good on cricket Australia




"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message
news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
> and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
> charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is
> breached
He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat and all
will be well!




28 Feb 2008 11:26:19
Andrew Dunford
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com > wrote in message
news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>> and
>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have been
> a penalty.

Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):

++++++
in the event the Commission decides that any person has
breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour, it
will apply one or more of the following penalties:

(a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
(b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position within
Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association (including as
an employee, officialor officer);
(c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
(d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that person
to any property;
(e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
(f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
community; and/or
(g) Reprimand the person.
++++++

The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.

So a reprimand is above board.

Andrew



28 Feb 2008 10:36:05
dechucka
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com > wrote in message
news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>> and
>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have been
> a penalty.

There was he was reprimanded




28 Feb 2008 10:37:18
dechucka
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home > wrote in message
news:47c5e27c$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>
>
> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>> and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>> charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is
>> breached
> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat and
> all will be well!

Taking the mickey out of his religious beleifs, now that is classy



NOT
>
>




27 Feb 2008 16:25:41
Crapats (TM)
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 28, 12:28=A0am, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:
> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia an=
d
> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached

Good on them for acting but the resulting reprimand is a joke.


27 Feb 2008 16:28:50
Crapats (TM)
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 28, 11:26=A0am, "Andrew Dunford" <adunf...@artifax.net > wrote:
> "Calvin" <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote in message
>
> news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechu...@vomithotmail.com>=

> > wrote:
>
> >> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally=

> >> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia=

> >> and
> >> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by chargi=
ng
> >> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
> > But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have bee=
n
> > a penalty.
>
> Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
> penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):
>
> ++++++
> in the event the Commission decides that any person has
> breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour, it=

> will apply one or more of the following penalties:
>
> (a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
> (b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position withi=
n
> Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association (including a=
s
> an employee, officialor officer);
> (c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
> (d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that perso=
n
> to any property;
> (e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
> (f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
> community; and/or
> (g) Reprimand the person.
> ++++++
>
> The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.
>
> So a reprimand is above board.
>
> Andrew

(g) Reprimand the person =3D have a beer with him and ask him nicely not
to do it again.

If I was Harby or Sharma I would sue Hayden.


28 Feb 2008 11:33:01
viper
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home > wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>> and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>> charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is
>> breached
> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat and
> all will be well!

Funny you should mention that...........the God botherer spin, the helmet
kissing, the flag touching is all fucking transparent theatre. While I do
think it's a little early for Sharma to adopt the rock star crap, Hayden's
comments were patronising at best. The use of the Indian accent was
embarrassing.

Viper
>
>




28 Feb 2008 10:44:50
Calvin
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:26:19 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net >
wrote:

>
> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message
> news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>>> and
>>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>> charging
>>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>>
>> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have
>> been
>> a penalty.
>
> Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
> penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):
>
> ++++++
> in the event the Commission decides that any person has
> breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour,
> it
> will apply one or more of the following penalties:
>
> (a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
> (b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position
> within Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association
> (including as an employee, officialor officer);
> (c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
> (d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that
> person to any property;
> (e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
> (f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
> community; and/or
> (g) Reprimand the person.
> ++++++
>
> The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.
>
> So a reprimand is above board.

But is it? Given there's no doubt about the offence, CA has taken the
softest possible approach, clearly signalling that it condones the
behaviour. The outcome in fact makes a mockery of the whole process.

--

cheers,
calvin


28 Feb 2008 11:56:33
dechucka
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com > wrote in message
news:op.t67lo0ugyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:26:19 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>>>> and
>>>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>>> charging
>>>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>>>
>>> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have
>>> been
>>> a penalty.
>>
>> Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
>> penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):
>>
>> ++++++
>> in the event the Commission decides that any person has
>> breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour,
>> it
>> will apply one or more of the following penalties:
>>
>> (a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
>> (b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position
>> within Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association
>> (including as an employee, officialor officer);
>> (c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
>> (d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that
>> person to any property;
>> (e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
>> (f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
>> community; and/or
>> (g) Reprimand the person.
>> ++++++
>>
>> The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.
>>
>> So a reprimand is above board.
>
> But is it? Given there's no doubt about the offence, CA has taken the
> softest possible approach, clearly signalling that it condones the
> behaviour. The outcome in fact makes a mockery of the whole process.

if it condoned the behaviour Hayden would not have been charged




28 Feb 2008 14:26:41
Andrew Dunford
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com > wrote in message
news:op.t67lo0ugyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:26:19 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>>>> and
>>>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>>> charging
>>>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>>>
>>> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have
>>> been
>>> a penalty.
>>
>> Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
>> penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):
>>
>> ++++++
>> in the event the Commission decides that any person has
>> breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour,
>> it
>> will apply one or more of the following penalties:
>>
>> (a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
>> (b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position
>> within Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association
>> (including as an employee, officialor officer);
>> (c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
>> (d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that
>> person to any property;
>> (e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
>> (f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
>> community; and/or
>> (g) Reprimand the person.
>> ++++++
>>
>> The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.
>>
>> So a reprimand is above board.
>
> But is it? Given there's no doubt about the offence, CA has taken the
> softest possible approach, clearly signalling that it condones the
> behaviour. The outcome in fact makes a mockery of the whole process.

Of course it does, but who can be arsed taking the whole thing seriously?
Not me. All I was really addressing was some crappy article in the
Hindustan Times which claimed a fine was mandatory for a first offence.

A cynic might say that CA charged him as a pre-emptive strike to avoid the
ICC doing so.

Andrew



28 Feb 2008 12:34:48
dechucka
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net > wrote in message
news:62mgumF2306plU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message
> news:op.t67lo0ugyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:26:19 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka
>>>> <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was
>>>>> totally
>>>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> and
>>>>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>>>> charging
>>>>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>>>>
>>>> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have
>>>> been
>>>> a penalty.
>>>
>>> Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
>>> penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):
>>>
>>> ++++++
>>> in the event the Commission decides that any person has
>>> breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour,
>>> it
>>> will apply one or more of the following penalties:
>>>
>>> (a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
>>> (b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position
>>> within Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association
>>> (including as an employee, officialor officer);
>>> (c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
>>> (d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that
>>> person to any property;
>>> (e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
>>> (f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
>>> community; and/or
>>> (g) Reprimand the person.
>>> ++++++
>>>
>>> The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.
>>>
>>> So a reprimand is above board.
>>
>> But is it? Given there's no doubt about the offence, CA has taken the
>> softest possible approach, clearly signalling that it condones the
>> behaviour. The outcome in fact makes a mockery of the whole process.
>
> Of course it does, but who can be arsed taking the whole thing seriously?
> Not me. All I was really addressing was some crappy article in the
> Hindustan Times which claimed a fine was mandatory for a first offence.
>
> A cynic might say that CA charged him as a pre-emptive strike to avoid the
> ICC doing so.


the ICC still can
>
> Andrew




28 Feb 2008 02:03:55
Colin
Re: Good on cricket Australia


<gergogreen@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:fe6a6e41-df28-4359-aa3f-e6afe37d776b@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 27, 10:28 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:

> sad mate.
> cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.

So which Indians are going to be CoC'd for their media comments? How about
the player that called Hayden insane? I'm not expecting anything to be
initiated by the BCCI against its sainted players.




28 Feb 2008 02:07:48
Colin
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com > wrote in message
news:op.t67lo0ugyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:26:19 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.t67eipdhyr33d7@1ls2-2c084.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:07 +1000, dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>>>> and
>>>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>>> charging
>>>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>>>
>>> But the outcome is a joke. As he was found guilty, there should have
>>> been
>>> a penalty.
>>
>> Cricket Australia's Code of Behaviour Policy provides the following
>> penalties for breaching Rule 9 (Public Comment):
>>
>> ++++++
>> in the event the Commission decides that any person has
>> breached any of Rules 5, 6 or 9 of Section 1 of this Code of Behaviour,
>> it
>> will apply one or more of the following penalties:
>>
>> (a) Ban the person from participating in any Match;
>> (b) Ban the person from holding (or continuing to hold) any position
>> within Cricket Australia or a State or Territory Cricket Association
>> (including as an employee, officialor officer);
>> (c) Fine the person an amount that accords with Rule 11 of this Section;
>> (d) Direct that the person make reparation for damage caused by that
>> person to any property;
>> (e) Require the person to undergo counselling for a specified time;
>> (f) Require the person to perform voluntary service to cricket or the
>> community; and/or
>> (g) Reprimand the person.
>> ++++++
>>
>> The potential fine mentioned in (c) is AUD 5750 for a first offence.
>>
>> So a reprimand is above board.
>
> But is it? Given there's no doubt about the offence, CA has taken the
> softest possible approach, clearly signalling that it condones the
> behaviour. The outcome in fact makes a mockery of the whole process.

While its a slap on the wrist now, its also a black mark against him,
meaning the next time he'll get a tougher punishment. He's going to need to
watch what he says from now on.




28 Feb 2008 02:11:26
Colin
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Crapats (TM)" <crapats007@yahoo.com.au > wrote in message
news:9196981a-bca7-4770-9af8-d8119a7e1638@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 28, 12:28 am, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com > wrote:
>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>> and
>> Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by charging
>> Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
>Good on them for acting but the resulting reprimand is a joke.

Seriously if tensions were not so high atm absolutely nothing would have
happened at all over "obnoxious little weed". Given "Obnoxious little weed"
is hardly worthy of citing in the first place, any kind of real punishment
isn't hardly warranted. The black mark from CoC violation though will make
Hayden keep his mouth shut, which is what is needed.




28 Feb 2008 13:55:45
Ian Galbraith
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:28:50 -0800 (PST), Crapats (TM) wrote:

[snip]

> If I was Harby or Sharma I would sue Hayden.

For what? Hayden has the truth as his defence.

--
You cant motivate people to do things, you can only demotivate them.
The primary job of the manager is not to empower but to remove
obstacles. X Scott Adams


27 Feb 2008 19:10:16
shineything
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 28, 3:55 pm, Ian Galbraith <m...@privacy.net > wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:28:50 -0800 (PST), Crapats (TM) wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > If I was Harby or Sharma I would sue Hayden.
>
> For what? Hayden has the truth as his defence.
>

That Harbajhan is a 'weed'? Presumably then, you also think Harbajhan
could have used the truth defense when he described Symonds as a
monkey?



28 Feb 2008 13:34:15
Calvin
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:26:41 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net >
wrote:

>
> "Calvin" <calvin@phlegm.com> wrote in message

>> But is it? Given there's no doubt about the offence, CA has taken the
>> softest possible approach, clearly signalling that it condones the
>> behaviour. The outcome in fact makes a mockery of the whole process.
>
> Of course it does, but who can be arsed taking the whole thing
> seriously? Not me. All I was really addressing was some crappy article
> in the Hindustan Times which claimed a fine was mandatory for a first
> offence.

Fair enough, but anyone who believes what is written in the HT gets what
they deserve.


--

cheers,
calvin


27 Feb 2008 20:08:18
subi...@notmail.com
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 28, 2:58=C2=A0am, "will_s" <wlsut...@gmail.com > wrote:
> "Cicero" <moofi...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>
> news:nHdxj.19993$421.17847@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Groundhog" <ramji...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >news:e6c6a009-a111-4f5f-b912-e5ce62141704@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...=

>
> > gergogr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Feb 27, 10:28=EF=BF=BDpm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wro=
te:
> >> > Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was total=
ly
> >> > inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Austral=
ia
> >> > and
> >> > Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
> >> > charging
> >> > Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is breached
>
> >> sad mate.
>
> >> cricket australia acted only after indian cricket board forced it to.
>
> > Actually, BCCI reaction has been rather muted in this episode.
>
> Well they have now lost there we will pack our bags and go home threats.
>
>
>
> > Found guilty but no penalty. Nor should there have been.
>
> Agreed

yes, it was great to see an aussie great insulting a visiting player,
mocking a 19-year old's accent, and inviting him to a boxing ring. of
course in australia this deserves no penalty. you mealy-mouthed shits.


28 Feb 2008 04:35:57
Thunnus Albacarus
Re: Good on cricket Australia

shineything <shineything@yahoo.com > wrote in news:c2f3f1ac-dc45-41cb-8723-
c4540d1487ef@c33g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 28, 3:55 pm, Ian Galbraith <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:28:50 -0800 (PST), Crapats (TM) wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > If I was Harby or Sharma I would sue Hayden.
>>
>> For what? Hayden has the truth as his defence.
>>
>
> That Harbajhan is a 'weed'? Presumably then, you also think Harbajhan
> could have used the truth defense when he described Symonds as a
> monkey?
>

Sure could have.... Roy does look a little like a monkey... Then again come
to think of it we all do.



27 Feb 2008 22:33:21
subi...@notmail.com
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 28, 8:34=A0am, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com > wrote:
>
> Fair enough, but anyone who believes what is written in the HT gets what =
=A0
> they deserve.

why, have you been a regular reader of the HT and found inaccuracies?
which ones? or just because it is an indian paper it is shit? try
reading that idiot michael conn in the australian if you really want
some hilarious untruths and glossing over of boorish behaviour.


27 Feb 2008 23:30:05
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Feb 28, 4:33=A0pm, "subi...@notmail.com" <subi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:34=A0am, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Fair enough, but anyone who believes what is written in the HT gets what=
=A0
> > they deserve.
>
> why, have you been a regular reader of the HT and found inaccuracies?
> which ones? or just because it is an indian paper it is shit? try
> reading that idiot michael conn in the australian if you really want
> some hilarious untruths and glossing over of boorish behaviour.

Ahhh.. I think this is probably the most consistently amusing sort of
thing that I read on rsc. Your attempt to insinuate Calvin reads Conn
for anything but humour value is.... well... certainly noted for its
humour value.

You do have a little way to go before you match Prakash or even our
Victorian contributor with the initials CK in making yourself look
silly, but I can see a future if you work hard.

For your next trick, I suggest you say I have the highest respect for
SRWaugh and that Alvey enjoys Brett Lee's un-strangely blue rise to
the "top."

Moby


29 Feb 2008 08:00:14
Calvin
Re: Good on cricket Australia

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:33:21 +1000, subi...@notmail.com
<subirwa@hotmail.com > wrote:

> On Feb 28, 8:34am, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fair enough, but anyone who believes what is written in the HT gets
>> what
>> they deserve.
>
> why, have you been a regular reader of the HT and found inaccuracies?
> which ones? or just because it is an indian paper it is shit?

Virtually all papers are sh1t, but if you would like to defend the HT then
carry on.

--

cheers,
calvin


29 Feb 2008 10:49:08
Luke O'Zade
Re: Good on cricket Australia




"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message
news:47c5f437$0$27329$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
> news:47c5e27c$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>>
>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>>> and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>> charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is
>>> breached
>> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat and
>> all will be well!
>
> Taking the mickey out of his religious beleifs, now that is classy
>
>
>
> NOT
>>
I believe in fact he is doing a turn with Benny at the WYD. Seriously
though a guy was saying on the Steve Price show that he went to school with
Hayden and was classed as the school bully. Hayden that is.




29 Feb 2008 11:50:29
dechucka
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home > wrote in message
news:47c74872$0$13262$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>
>
> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47c5f437$0$27329$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
>> news:47c5e27c$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was totally
>>>> inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket Australia
>>>> and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of cricket by
>>>> charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed if CoC is
>>>> breached
>>> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat and
>>> all will be well!
>>
>> Taking the mickey out of his religious beleifs, now that is classy
>>
>>
>>
>> NOT
> >>
> I believe in fact he is doing a turn with Benny at the WYD. Seriously
> though a guy was saying on the Steve Price show that he went to school
> with Hayden and was classed as the school bully. Hayden that is.


you listen to Steve Price? Enough said




29 Feb 2008 13:37:20
Luke O'Zade
Re: Good on cricket Australia




"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message
news:47c756dd$0$27336$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
> news:47c74872$0$13262$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>>
>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:47c5f437$0$27329$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
>>> news:47c5e27c$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was
>>>>> totally inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket
>>>>> Australia and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of
>>>>> cricket by charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed
>>>>> if CoC is breached
>>>> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat and
>>>> all will be well!
>>>
>>> Taking the mickey out of his religious beleifs, now that is classy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NOT
>> >>
>> I believe in fact he is doing a turn with Benny at the WYD. Seriously
>> though a guy was saying on the Steve Price show that he went to school
>> with Hayden and was classed as the school bully. Hayden that is.
>
>
> you listen to Steve Price? Enough said
I said a guy on his show. I was in a cab at the time. Say no more!




29 Feb 2008 13:46:25
dechucka
Re: Good on cricket Australia


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home > wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47c756dd$0$27336$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
>> news:47c74872$0$13262$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:47c5f437$0$27329$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
>>>> news:47c5e27c$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was
>>>>>> totally inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on Cricket
>>>>>> Australia and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the spirit of
>>>>>> cricket by charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what is needed
>>>>>> if CoC is breached
>>>>> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat
>>>>> and all will be well!
>>>>
>>>> Taking the mickey out of his religious beleifs, now that is classy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NOT
>>> >>
>>> I believe in fact he is doing a turn with Benny at the WYD. Seriously
>>> though a guy was saying on the Steve Price show that he went to school
>>> with Hayden and was classed as the school bully. Hayden that is.
>>
>>
>> you listen to Steve Price? Enough said
> I said a guy on his show. I was in a cab at the time. Say no more!


you didn't block your ears and scream? Say no more!
>
>




01 Mar 2008 08:48:10
Luke O'Zade
Re: Good on cricket Australia




"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com > wrote in message
news:47c77208$0$27289$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
> news:47c76fdd$0$26468$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>>
>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:47c756dd$0$27336$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
>>> news:47c74872$0$13262$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:47c5f437$0$27329$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
>>>>> news:47c5e27c$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:47c5494f$0$27303$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>> Although I personally agree with Haydens comments I feel it was
>>>>>>> totally inappropriate for him to utter them publicly. Good on
>>>>>>> Cricket Australia and Australian cricket for trying to uphold the
>>>>>>> spirit of cricket by charging Hayden. An appropriate penalty is what
>>>>>>> is needed if CoC is breached
>>>>>> He will be OK. Give himself the sign of the cross a kiss on his hat
>>>>>> and all will be well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking the mickey out of his religious beleifs, now that is classy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NOT
>>>> >>
>>>> I believe in fact he is doing a turn with Benny at the WYD. Seriously
>>>> though a guy was saying on the Steve Price show that he went to school
>>>> with Hayden and was classed as the school bully. Hayden that is.
>>>
>>>
>>> you listen to Steve Price? Enough said
>> I said a guy on his show. I was in a cab at the time. Say no more!
>
>
> you didn't block your ears and scream? Say no more!
>>
What? Sitting next to an Indian driver.The only Indian lingo I know is
'Monkey '