27 Jun 2007 03:45:25
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remaile
Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

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As a die-hard 'Deadwood' fan, it took me several episodes to
get it. But now I'm beginning to get it--this new "surf-noir"
collaboration of the series' writers David Milch and Kem Nunn.

And with 'The Sopranos' finally laid to rest, I've even been
watching 'Big Love', although soap operas, no matter how well
done, written, directed, acted, produced, etc., are still soap
operas. I'll take "T" and "Al Swearingen" any day of the week!

Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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26 Jun 2007 22:26:44
DWACON
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


"Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer" <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it > wrote in
message news:c3b3487ebf9e7d491f8cb7f9bb57e45d@remailer.cyberiade.it...
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>
> As a die-hard 'Deadwood' fan, it took me several episodes to
> get it. But now I'm beginning to get it--this new "surf-noir"
> collaboration of the series' writers David Milch and Kem Nunn.


Well, jury is still out for me... I will trust that Milch is showing genius
and not just screwing with the fans...

Otherwise, I will have to defect to Showtime to watch Dexter (the younger
six-feet-under brother as a serial killer who kills serial killers), the
Tudors (Jonathan Rhys-Meyers as a young and horney Henry VIII) and will keep
waiting for the Deadwood movie...

Meanwhile... I have been thinking about getting a surfboard.



--
The generation that used acid to escape reality
is now using antacid to deal with reality
http://dwacon.blogspot.com




26 Jun 2007 21:23:53
Dan G
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.




27 Jun 2007 04:02:43
Alan Pollock
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

In rec.arts.tv DWACON <nospam@nospam.nospam > wrote:


> Meanwhile... I have been thinking about getting a surfboard.


Meanwhile, I took the 20 minute drive to IB last weekend to refamiliarize
myself with the place; hadn't been there for a couple of months. It's still
unique in feel and color, nothing at all like PB, MB or OB. Had a coffee at
the foot of the pier and discovered the couple who run the joint are from the
Burgundy region of France, so had a quick chat with an excellent coffee.

Everytime I hit IB something good like that happens. Haven't raised up off the
ground or healed dead people but there's magic there nonetheless. Nex




27 Jun 2007 00:51:04
PBDepot
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jun 26, 8:23 pm, "Dan G" <n...@12345.org > wrote:
> Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
> drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.

It's like watching The Wire for the first time. It's hard to believe
that television can actually be that good.

The 3rd episode of JFC was just brilliant, especially the writing, and
the big networks really ought to take notice and learn a thing or two
about how to make quality programs.



27 Jun 2007 12:39:56
ljswahine
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jun 27, 3:51 am, PBDepot <chu...@paintball-depot.com > wrote:
> On Jun 26, 8:23 pm, "Dan G" <n...@12345.org> wrote:
>
> > Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
> > drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.
>
> It's like watching The Wire for the first time. It's hard to believe
> that television can actually be that good.
>
> The 3rd episode of JFC was just brilliant, especially the writing, and
> the big networks really ought to take notice and learn a thing or two
> about how to make quality programs.

Haven't seen the 3rd episode yet, have it on demand and DVR, but
enjoying it so far. Am a fan of Kem Nunn and just ordered Tijuana
Straits for hopeful summer reading. Miss SD.



27 Jun 2007 22:38:23
kjw
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:39:56 -0700, ljswahine <ljswahine2@aol.com >
wrote:

>On Jun 27, 3:51 am, PBDepot <chu...@paintball-depot.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 8:23 pm, "Dan G" <n...@12345.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
>> > drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.
>>
>> It's like watching The Wire for the first time. It's hard to believe
>> that television can actually be that good.
>>
>> The 3rd episode of JFC was just brilliant, especially the writing, and
>> the big networks really ought to take notice and learn a thing or two
>> about how to make quality programs.
>
>Haven't seen the 3rd episode yet, have it on demand and DVR, but
>enjoying it so far. Am a fan of Kem Nunn and just ordered Tijuana
>Straits for hopeful summer reading. Miss SD.

Anybody know if this has been picked up for next season? I liked the
first enough, but don't want to get hooked on a lame duck.


27 Jun 2007 16:44:57
rickyrick
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

I'm liking it so far..the first ep was a little slow, but the surfing
footage held my interest. Seems to be getting better though. Nowhere
near as good as Deadwood...yet. I find the Butchie character funny.
rebecca DeMornay(or however you spell it) is a little annoying with
all the yelling. But it's decent.



27 Jun 2007 17:50:09
Dan G
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


"kjw" <kjw@kjw.com > wrote in message
news:5dp583hv1fgb0ss4hamd29u7d9k6gffs1i@4ax.com...
>
> Anybody know if this has been picked up for next season? I liked the
> first enough, but don't want to get hooked on a lame duck.

No news either way. Jim mentioned somewhere that there's some weeks or
months before the actor contracts expire. Other rumors indicate that the
story may be fairly well resolved in the 10th episode, but that's rumor with
a capital R.

Personally, I don't understand the notion of refusing to watch GREAT drama
because it might not be renewed. What watch anything at all if that's the
approach? As long as we live, there may never be another Milch, better
watch it while you can.




27 Jun 2007 20:10:13
Don K
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

"Dan G" <none@12345.org > wrote in message
news:mNudnSXRf79EShzbnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
> drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.
>

I dunno, it seems to me that it's similar to Carnivale, and so far, I'd
have to say that Carnivale did it better and with more interesting
characters.

The combination of dysfunctional surfing family and their dysfunctional friends
has little appeal to me. Likewise the filler shots of the surfing beach bums
doesn't compare to the eye-candy filler of Baywatch.

But I'll keep watching, hoping it moves along.

Don




28 Jun 2007 14:37:02
Thumper
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:39:56 -0700, ljswahine <ljswahine2@aol.com >
wrote:

>On Jun 27, 3:51 am, PBDepot <chu...@paintball-depot.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 8:23 pm, "Dan G" <n...@12345.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
>> > drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.
>>
>> It's like watching The Wire for the first time. It's hard to believe
>> that television can actually be that good.
>>
>> The 3rd episode of JFC was just brilliant, especially the writing, and
>> the big networks really ought to take notice and learn a thing or two
>> about how to make quality programs.
>
>Haven't seen the 3rd episode yet, have it on demand and DVR, but
>enjoying it so far. Am a fan of Kem Nunn and just ordered Tijuana
>Straits for hopeful summer reading. Miss SD.


I've seen it and it showed me nothing.
Thumper


29 Jun 2007 00:37:42
Crowfoot
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

In article <rtv783pt7cgqvtf2bd8g7avjmm4rdgqekg@4ax.com >,
Thumper <jaylsmith@comcast.net > wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:39:56 -0700, ljswahine <ljswahine2@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 27, 3:51 am, PBDepot <chu...@paintball-depot.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 26, 8:23 pm, "Dan G" <n...@12345.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yup, it's a good one. Episode 3 really sealed it. This is some serious
> >> > drama, and completely new. Nothing like this has ever been done.
> >>
> >> It's like watching The Wire for the first time. It's hard to believe
> >> that television can actually be that good.
> >>
> >> The 3rd episode of JFC was just brilliant, especially the writing, and
> >> the big networks really ought to take notice and learn a thing or two
> >> about how to make quality programs.
> >
> >Haven't seen the 3rd episode yet, have it on demand and DVR, but
> >enjoying it so far. Am a fan of Kem Nunn and just ordered Tijuana
> >Straits for hopeful summer reading. Miss SD.
>
>
> I've seen it and it showed me nothing.
> Thumper

Hear, hear. Lots of ranting and raving, verbal filth, and
derivative Lynch-ism, but so far no strength.

C


30 Jun 2007 04:27:55
Bob (but not THAT Bob)
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
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> As a die-hard 'Deadwood' fan, it took me several episodes to
> get it. But now I'm beginning to get it--this new "surf-noir"
> collaboration of the series' writers David Milch and Kem Nunn.
>



I've been enjoying it immensely so far. The idea that John has to be
handed off to somebody and not left alone is hilarious.

That Milch integegrated Deadwood actors into JFC has made the previous
(and better) show's demise somewhat more palatable.

Anybody else hope Calamity Jane shows up as a dyke biker?


30 Jun 2007 08:18:56
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remaile
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, "Bob (but not THAT Bob)" <nobody@nowhere.com > wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>> As a die-hard 'Deadwood' fan, it took me several episodes to
>> get it. But now I'm beginning to get it--this new "surf-noir"
>> collaboration of the series' writers David Milch and Kem Nunn.
>
>I've been enjoying it immensely so far. The idea that John has to be
>handed off to somebody and not left alone is hilarious.
>That Milch integegrated Deadwood actors into JFC has made the previous
>(and better) show's demise somewhat more palatable.
>Anybody else hope Calamity Jane shows up as a dyke biker?

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You know, but you still have to put yourself in the place of the
writer, director, producer, actors, etc. These are sapient souls.
Every joy we're getting out of it they're giving us deliberately.

David Milch & Co. are more experienced and mature than they were
yesterday. I have to believe that JFC is better than I presently
am able to discern. What I mean to say is, that the good teacher
always stays at least two or three steps ahead of their students.

I'd never want to be equal to my teachers. Rather I do pray to God
that I, soul-wise, shall forever stay a step or two or three below. :)

Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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01 Jul 2007 13:47:15
Tony Malasadas
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

"DWACON" <nospam@nospam.nospam > wrote:
> Meanwhile... I have been thinking about getting a surfboard.
>

Which is exactly why surfers dread these TV shows.
I was hoping the show would portray surfers in the most
negative light possible. Anything that discourages more
clueless noobs from entering the water is OK by me.
The lawyer character on the show is a perfect example
of the type of douchebag wannabee that surfers revile.

As far as the show goes, it sure ain't Deadwood.
Much of the acting is wretched. A good deal of the
surfing related dialogue is laughably bad.
"We've been worried about those rails"
LOL!!!

Still, it's a bit better than garbage like "Larry David".
Whoever told that guy he's funny should be shot.


--x--
Tony




01 Jul 2007 07:11:03
Annika1980
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jun 30, 12:27 am, "Bob (but not THAT Bob)" <nob...@nowhere.com >
wrote:

>
> Anybody else hope Calamity Jane shows up as a dyke biker?

I could see her and Dan riding a big hog.

Maybe Al will show up saying, "You would not want to be looking at me
like that," and JFC will answer, "I've got my eye on you, Al
Swearingen."




01 Jul 2007 07:27:37
tomcervo
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jun 30, 12:27?am, "Bob (but not THAT Bob)" <nob...@nowhere.com >
wrote:
>
> Anybody else hope Calamity Jane shows up as a dyke biker?

Too easy. First time I saw Robin Weigert was "Angels in America" as
the Mormon woman, with a three minute speech that stopped the show. I
can easily see her showing up with a streak of gray as the Mother of
John, evoking universal "What the hell was THAT?"




01 Jul 2007 10:02:53
ljswahine
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 1, 9:47 am, "Tony Malasadas" <tonybalo...@addyisphoney.net >
wrote:

> Still, it's a bit better than garbage like "Larry David".
> Whoever told that guy he's funny should be shot.

He's an aquired taste.

ljs




01 Jul 2007 13:21:04
Dano
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


"ljswahine" <ljswahine2@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1183309373.009723.209710@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 1, 9:47 am, "Tony Malasadas" <tonybalo...@addyisphoney.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Still, it's a bit better than garbage like "Larry David".
>> Whoever told that guy he's funny should be shot.
>
> He's an aquired taste.
>

And tastes differ. Millions thought that little show he helped create
(Seinfeld) was kinda funny. It's still not a shocker that some didn't like
that either.



01 Jul 2007 13:45:35
Jack Linthicum
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 1, 10:27 am, tomcervo <tomce...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Jun 30, 12:27?am, "Bob (but not THAT Bob)" <nob...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Anybody else hope Calamity Jane shows up as a dyke biker?
>
> Too easy. First time I saw Robin Weigert was "Angels in America" as
> the Mormon woman, with a three minute speech that stopped the show. I
> can easily see her showing up with a streak of gray as the Mother of
> John, evoking universal "What the hell was THAT?"

Anyone else wonder about that? I mean JFC as initials?



01 Jul 2007 17:37:56
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:02:53 -0700, ljswahine <ljswahine2@aol.com >
wrote:

>On Jul 1, 9:47 am, "Tony Malasadas" <tonybalo...@addyisphoney.net>
>wrote:
>
>> Still, it's a bit better than garbage like "Larry David".
>> Whoever told that guy he's funny should be shot.
>
>He's an aquired taste.
>
>ljs
>

I found the last couple of seasons to be subpar, but seasons one
through three were incredibly funny. I guess most everything can go
creatively bankrupt given enough time. This is why that even though I
long for more Deadwood, I wonder if I'm better off with just three
glorious seasons...



01 Jul 2007 14:44:44
PBDepot
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 1, 1:45 pm, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net > wrote:
>
> Anyone else wonder about that? I mean JFC as initials?

What... Jesus-F-ing-Christ? Or did I miss something?



01 Jul 2007 16:48:38
the Bede
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


"PBDepot" <chuckb@paintball-depot.com > wrote in message
news:1183326284.684841.175240@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 1, 1:45 pm, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone else wonder about that? I mean JFC as initials?
>
> What... Jesus-F-ing-Christ? Or did I miss something?
>
"Jacksonville Fried Chicken".




01 Jul 2007 18:01:28
Dave
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

No yer not, even if for some ODD reason it was Subpar, it would STILL be 8
miles high above anything else. Aint I right Craig?

--
Al Swearengen for President




01 Jul 2007 19:15:03
Dano
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


"Dave" <tdavel@insightbb.com > wrote in message
news:ocidncQDu6vfuRXbnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@insightbb.com...
> --
> Al Swearengen for President
>

I think his moral equivalent is already VP...careful what you wish for...



01 Jul 2007 21:50:24
Dave
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

Damn, I hadnt thought of that

--
Al Swearengen for President




02 Jul 2007 07:40:20
Muggins
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On 27 Jun 2007 03:45:25 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it > wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>As a die-hard 'Deadwood' fan, it took me several episodes to
>get it. But now I'm beginning to get it--this new "surf-noir"
>collaboration of the series' writers David Milch and Kem Nunn.
>
>And with 'The Sopranos' finally laid to rest, I've even been
>watching 'Big Love', although soap operas, no matter how well
>done, written, directed, acted, produced, etc., are still soap
>operas. I'll take "T" and "Al Swearingen" any day of the week!
>
>Ex-Republican,
>Daniel Joseph Min
>http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
anyone know the name of the song Kai puts on before getting it on with
Butchie in last night's episode 4?

thanks.


02 Jul 2007 09:16:03
John DeRosa
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:37:56 -0400, Axis Of Sheeple wrote:

>I found the last couple of seasons to be subpar, but seasons one
>through three were incredibly funny.

The season finale with in the restaurant, with the chef that had
Tourette's syndrome, was inspired.


02 Jul 2007 13:41:34
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:16:03 -0700, John DeRosa <stugots@qwest.net >
wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:37:56 -0400, Axis Of Sheeple wrote:
>
>>I found the last couple of seasons to be subpar, but seasons one
>>through three were incredibly funny.
>
>The season finale with in the restaurant, with the chef that had
>Tourette's syndrome, was inspired.

Yes when Suzy walks in cursing about the car wash bitch I absolutely
lost it!



03 Jul 2007 03:33:51
rickyrick
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


anybody see last night's John from Cinn.? It's really getting good.



03 Jul 2007 12:48:12
Dan G
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

A whole lot better than "good".


"rickyrick" <rickratliff71@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:1183458831.065181.169720@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> anybody see last night's John from Cinn.? It's really getting good.
>




03 Jul 2007 16:14:32
kira
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

I keep watching, but I am having trouble with JFC, the program.
With Deadwood, the acting, dialogue, and story flow were so excellent,
that I wasn't really conscious of it being actors on a stage, but
really got into the story and the time/place. The dialogues were
brilliant.
Not so with JFC... it is almost like a junior high-written play.
And it
hit me finally, that the buffoon from Hawaii is CHARLIE, fer pete's
sake!
This story is just not flowing. OK, so now the second coming guy
has the wound to his side. But when is he going to become
articulate? All the little vinettes with each group of actors just do
not hang together for me. I'll keep watching, because why not? But I
am disappointed. I hate being constantly conscious if this being a
bunch of actors acting, and the dialogue just not making sense. I
wish they could all (in their roles, not as the actors themselves)
raise their IQs about 50 points each.
Kira




09 Jul 2007 17:07:56
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

That Sissy chick has to die.
Too much drama.
Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
chain-smoking and playing with guns.
Time to find a new lady.
"Adios crazy woman!"

Rob




09 Jul 2007 17:10:19
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 2, 7:40 am, Muggins <mugg...@nospam.netgeex.com > wrote:
> On 27 Jun 2007 03:45:25 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
>
> <anonym...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> >As a die-hard 'Deadwood' fan, it took me several episodes to
> >get it. But now I'm beginning to get it--this new "surf-noir"
> >collaboration of the series' writers David Milch and Kem Nunn.
>
> >And with 'The Sopranos' finally laid to rest, I've even been
> >watching 'Big Love', although soap operas, no matter how well
> >done, written, directed, acted, produced, etc., are still soap
> >operas. I'll take "T" and "Al Swearingen" any day of the week!
>
> >Ex-Republican,
> >Daniel Joseph Min
> >http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> anyone know the name of the song Kai puts on before getting it on with
> Butchie in last night's episode 4?
>
> thanks.

Oh shit - I missed that part.

Rob



10 Jul 2007 02:20:10
Alan Pollock
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

In rec.arts.tv bigsurf_bob@yahoo.com wrote:
> That Sissy chick has to die.
> Too much drama.
> Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> Time to find a new lady.
> "Adios crazy woman!"

> Rob


Yep, very irritating. I want to see that I'll get married again. In fact, I
found most of the last ep irritating, with few redeeming qualities. Yes, the
gun thing was useless and cheap. Thought I was watching Nash Bridges there for
a sec.

What happened, someone else write the thing? I never pay attention. Maybe I
should. The ep felt completely different from the previous few. Written by a
one-legged clam with herpes. They need to clean house. Nex


10 Jul 2007 02:29:04
Frokenstein
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, bigsurf_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> That Sissy chick has to die.
> Too much drama.
> Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> Time to find a new lady.
> "Adios crazy woman!"
>
> Rob

Co-sign.

Words like "forced", "self-indulgent", and "pretentious" constantly
come to mind when viewing this show. Some people here seem to have
confused its inscrutability with profundity.



10 Jul 2007 01:44:16
Crowfoot
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

In article <1184034544.159036.195740@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com >,
Frokenstein <frokenstein@gmail.com > wrote:

> On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, bigsurf_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > That Sissy chick has to die.
> > Too much drama.
> > Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> > chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> > Time to find a new lady.
> > "Adios crazy woman!"
> >
> > Rob
>
> Co-sign.
>
> Words like "forced", "self-indulgent", and "pretentious" constantly
> come to mind when viewing this show. Some people here seem to have
> confused its inscrutability with profundity.

Only some.

C


10 Jul 2007 03:17:35
Jack Linthicum
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 10, 3:44 am, Crowfoot <pagem...@swcp.com > wrote:
> In article <1184034544.159036.195...@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> Frokenstein <frokenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, bigsurf_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > That Sissy chick has to die.
> > > Too much drama.
> > > Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> > > chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> > > Time to find a new lady.
> > > "Adios crazy woman!"
>
> > > Rob
>
> > Co-sign.
>
> > Words like "forced", "self-indulgent", and "pretentious" constantly
> > come to mind when viewing this show. Some people here seem to have
> > confused its inscrutability with profundity.
>
> Only some.
>
> C

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/07/john-from-cin-1.html#more

Yeah, some



11 Jul 2007 12:44:01
Crowfoot
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

In article <1184062655.403434.304920@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
Jack Linthicum <jacklinthicum@earthlink.net > wrote:

> On Jul 10, 3:44 am, Crowfoot <pagem...@swcp.com> wrote:
> > In article <1184034544.159036.195...@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Frokenstein <frokenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, bigsurf_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > That Sissy chick has to die.
> > > > Too much drama.
> > > > Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> > > > chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> > > > Time to find a new lady.
> > > > "Adios crazy woman!"
> >
> > > > Rob
> >
> > > Co-sign.
> >
> > > Words like "forced", "self-indulgent", and "pretentious" constantly
> > > come to mind when viewing this show. Some people here seem to have
> > > confused its inscrutability with profundity.
> >
> > Only some.
> >
> > C
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/07/john-from-cin-1.html#more
>
> Yeah, some

Thanks for the link -- as one who agrees 100% with "forced",
"self-indulgent", and "pretentious", I'm glad lots of others
haven't been taken in by this over-the-top, pseudo-metaphysical
tripe. Milch should maybe try a new set of friends . . .

C


11 Jul 2007 15:37:52
Jack Linthicum
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 11, 2:44 pm, Crowfoot <pagem...@swcp.com > wrote:
> In article <1184062655.403434.304...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 10, 3:44 am, Crowfoot <pagem...@swcp.com> wrote:
> > > In article <1184034544.159036.195...@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > Frokenstein <frokenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, bigsurf_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > That Sissy chick has to die.
> > > > > Too much drama.
> > > > > Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> > > > > chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> > > > > Time to find a new lady.
> > > > > "Adios crazy woman!"
>
> > > > > Rob
>
> > > > Co-sign.
>
> > > > Words like "forced", "self-indulgent", and "pretentious" constantly
> > > > come to mind when viewing this show. Some people here seem to have
> > > > confused its inscrutability with profundity.
>
> > > Only some.
>
> > > C
>
> >http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/07/john-from-cin-1.h...
>
> > Yeah, some
>
> Thanks for the link -- as one who agrees 100% with "forced",
> "self-indulgent", and "pretentious", I'm glad lots of others
> haven't been taken in by this over-the-top, pseudo-metaphysical
> tripe. Milch should maybe try a new set of friends . . .
>
> C

You may not have the right target, I would imagine someone at HBO has
been reading the New York Times articles on surfing, possibly even did
a wave or two to see what the kick was, decided the Imp Beach would be
a good place to shoot, got some religious patina idea and sold it to
the management. I have bets on JfC ending up ascending to heaven or
ending up in the Tijuana drunk tank.



30 Jul 2007 13:56:04
kevincar
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 9, 7:29 pm, Frokenstein <frokenst...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, bigsurf_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > That Sissy chick has to die.
> > Too much drama.
> > Half the time I can't even tell what she's pissed about. Now she's
> > chain-smoking and playing with guns.
> > Time to find a new lady.
> > "Adios crazy woman!"
>
> > Rob
>
> Co-sign.
>
> Words like "forced", "self-indulgent", and "pretentious" constantly
> come to mind when viewing this show. Some people here seem to have
> confused its inscrutability with profundity.

Well- as one having grown up in a small beach town (in Florida) I
have to say a lot of the characters in JFC actually hit a stride with
what I've experienced as what actually happens in beach towns.

Not every surfing town is Huntington Beach or Maui- When living in an
insular environment with few options, people are much like what these
characters try to pull off in the show... Including the sub-plots
(drugs, language, nature of relationships, grasping at straws, like
surfing sponsorships, etc.)

IMO, once you get past that Sissy is Rebecca de Mornay, She's pretty
believable.

KC



30 Jul 2007 18:36:04
Sanderson
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'


>
> Well- as one having grown up in a small beach town (in Florida) I
> have to say a lot of the characters in JFC actually hit a stride with
> what I've experienced as what actually happens in beach towns.
>
> Not every surfing town is Huntington Beach or Maui- When living in an
> insular environment with few options, people are much like what these
> characters try to pull off in the show... Including the sub-plots
> (drugs, language, nature of relationships, grasping at straws, like
> surfing sponsorships, etc.)
>
> IMO, once you get past that Sissy is Rebecca de Mornay, She's pretty
> believable.
>
> KC
>
>


Yep. I used to live in IB and I don't have trouble believing it.

-Sanderson

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31 Jul 2007 06:06:18
Alan Pollock
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

In rec.arts.tv kevincar <kevindotcar@gmail.com > wrote:

> IMO, once you get past that Sissy is Rebecca de Mornay, She's pretty
> believable.


Albeit immensely irritating. If she's a good reason to get out of a town like
IB, then you know what follows.

Must say though, I still like the show a lot, despite the sophomoric bits with
guns and the too frequent mornay-shrewshrieking. The two Jersey shlubs make up
for some of that; seriously hilarious those two. (Compare sidekick in s2 of
wire with his jfc role - whoa!) And the two good-looking babes don't detract,
if I may understate. The dialog is sometimes pretentious, sometimes tongue in
cheek and usually interesting. Lots of bad dialog on primetime; JfC's way out
there where even bad's got balls.

All in all, and considering the other fare on, JfC rocks. Nex


31 Jul 2007 23:38:49
Tony Malasadas
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

"Alan Pollock" <nex@nopanix.com > wrote:
> Must say though, I still like the show a lot, despite the sophomoric bits with
> guns and the too frequent mornay-shrewshrieking. The two Jersey shlubs make up
> for some of that; seriously hilarious those two.
>

They are *supposed* to be Hawaiians.
Horrible bit of casting.
More like a couple of guidos.

Shit, *I'm* more "Hawaiian" than they are!

--x--
Tony




31 Jul 2007 19:51:31
Don K
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

"Tony Malasadas" <tonybaloney@addyisphoney.net > wrote in message
news:dKPri.5265$id4.1476@trndny05...
> "Alan Pollock" <nex@nopanix.com> wrote:
>> Must say though, I still like the show a lot, despite the sophomoric bits with
>> guns and the too frequent mornay-shrewshrieking. The two Jersey shlubs make up
>> for some of that; seriously hilarious those two.
>>
>
> They are *supposed* to be Hawaiians.
> Horrible bit of casting.
> More like a couple of guidos.
>
> Shit, *I'm* more "Hawaiian" than they are!
>
> --x--
> Tony


My impression was that the boss man had relocated to Hawaii
from the mainland some time ago and had just recently come back.

Or maybe he's from Cincinnati too.

Don




31 Jul 2007 23:04:22
phishrace
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

On Jul 31, 4:51 pm, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com > wrote:
> "Tony Malasadas" <tonybalo...@addyisphoney.net> wrote in message
>
> news:dKPri.5265$id4.1476@trndny05...
>
> > "Alan Pollock" <n...@nopanix.com> wrote:
> >> Must say though, I still like the show a lot, despite the sophomoric bits with
> >> guns and the too frequent mornay-shrewshrieking. The two Jersey shlubs make up
> >> for some of that; seriously hilarious those two.
>
> > They are *supposed* to be Hawaiians.
> > Horrible bit of casting.
> > More like a couple of guidos.
>
> > Shit, *I'm* more "Hawaiian" than they are!
>
> > --x--
> > Tony
>
> My impression was that the boss man had relocated to Hawaii
> from the mainland some time ago and had just recently come back.
>
> Or maybe he's from Cincinnati too.
>
> Don

Exactly. He's a big time drug dealer. The goal of any big time dealer
is to eventually live in Hawaii. Steadie Freddie did it. I don't think
his intention in coming back was to stay. He just knew he had to come
back.

What was the deal with the shape bending? Was that something he saw in
the mirror in the car? Can't remember.

-phish



17 Aug 2007 06:05:53
Frokenstein
Re: Appreciating 'John From Cincinnati'

Appreciating John From Cincinnati being cancelled.

Although it had some moments, JFC was mostly caca.